Interracial Couple Refused Marriage License

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lawgator1 said:
No need to get your back up there, Frances.

Let me ask you this, if its "more natural" for whites to be attracted to whites and black people to black people, then why do you also say that it changes with your understanding of the other race? And, if it is a matter of "nature," then how do you explain the apparent increase in interracial relationships over just a matter of decades?

I don't think its an issue of nature as much as it is a function of overcoming societal pressures and taboos, don't you?
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The increase you see is about societal acceptance. Those acting on it were likely to be the type that were accepting of others anyway. Expecting the percentage of those to dramatically change is fantasy IMO.
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lawgator1 said:
Who are you and what did you do to KB252?
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Are you saying that because I lean to the right I must be one of those right wing extremists who is secretly printing racial propaganda and distributing it on the streets?

I know you have trouble picking up my sarcasm so I will set the meter off for you.........BEEP BEEP!
 
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HA! The add for this page is AfroRomance.com. Where love is more than skin deep....
 
#54
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lawgator1 said:
Dude, he's lying. He doesn't give a rat's azz about their theoretical kids. He did what he did because he was personally offended by it. Guarantee 1950's reruns on Nick at Nite are his favorite pastime.
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Which is what disturbs me the most. I respect educational theories, facts and opinions. But what I don't respect is someone who's lived in their mom's basement until they were 45 and finally got a job at the dmv and feel they can walk around and throw out ignorant opinions as if someone cares
 
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lawgator1 said:
No need to get your back up there, Frances.

Let me ask you this, if its "more natural" for whites to be attracted to whites and black people to black people, then why do you also say that it changes with your understanding of the other race? And, if it is a matter of "nature," then how do you explain the apparent increase in interracial relationships over just a matter of decades?

I don't think its an issue of nature as much as it is a function of overcoming societal pressures and taboos, don't you?
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actual interracial marriages are still very rare. under 10% of the total. i'm sure social acceptance is the reason for the rise, but i don't think BPV's theory is crazy. it's amazing how often you see people marry people that look similar to other people in their family (even if it is a little creepy).
 
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getyopopcornready said:
Which is what disturbs me the most. I respect educational theories, facts and opinions. But what I don't respect is someone who's lived in their mom's basement until they were 45 and finally got a job at the dmv and feel they can walk around and throw out ignorant opinions as if someone cares
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But they can. It's sad. They're Jerry Falwell I'm a different suit, but they can be. Ignoring them is probably the biggest slap in the face you can dish them. They want to provoke a response.
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getyopopcornready said:
Which is what disturbs me the most. I respect educational theories, facts and opinions. But what I don't respect is someone who's lived in their mom's basement until they were 45 and finally got a job at the dmv and feel they can walk around and throw out ignorant opinions as if someone cares
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You need to apologize to Sarah Palin!:)
 
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droski said:
actual interracial marriages are still very rare. under 10% of the total. i'm sure social acceptance is the reason for the rise, but i don't think BPV's theory is crazy. it's amazing how often you see people marry people that look similar to other people in their family (even if it is a little creepy).
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Especially in Alabama.
 
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droski said:
actual interracial marriages are still very rare. under 10% of the total. i'm sure social acceptance is the reason for the rise, but i don't think BPV's theory is crazy. it's amazing how often you see people marry people that look similar to other people in their family (even if it is a little creepy).
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Social acceptance and the willingness to go outside of what your elders believe in. I bet there is a larger percentage out there who could actually see themselves in an interracial marriage but refuse to even give it a second thought because of what they're parents and the rest of their family may say.

I do believe there is somewhat of an initial natural attraction to things that aren't what we are used to or like us, but for whatever reason people feel it is wrong to be attracted to something different.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
But they can. It's sad. They're Jerry Falwell I'm a different suit, but they can be. Ignoring them is probably the biggest slap in the face you can dish them. They want to provoke a response.
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Exactly. Luckily I figured that out well before I met my wife. The most disrespectful thing you can do to people like that is to make them feel as if they're "best shot" doesn't matter... Absolutely kills them
 
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BigPapaVol said:
The increase you see is about societal acceptance. Those acting on it were likely to be the type that were accepting of others anyway. Expecting the percentage of those to dramatically change is fantasy IMO.
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I would agree with BPV that there is a "natural attraction" that exists as the primary driver. Not natural in the sense that it is innate, but something that becomes part of you as you grow based on your surroundings. I recall a study I once read that said the first cause of attraction is proximity... i.e. those who live in the same general area as you. The second cause was association... those that you share common interests with. I remember this study because it listed physical attraction as one of the last elements, and (at least at the time) I wasn't quite sure I believed that to be the case.

However, if you consider the top two of proximity and association, it should be no surprise that there are few interracial relationships. But this would apply outside of race as well, whether it's religion, ethnicity, or even financial status. In large part, those people getting married today represent in some ways the first generation to grow up outside of segregation. So with more mixing of the races at an early age it would seem logical, at least based on proximity and association, that blacks and whites would have more in common today than they did a few decades ago.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
The increase you see is about societal acceptance. Those acting on it were likely to be the type that were accepting of others anyway. Expecting the percentage of those to dramatically change is fantasy IMO.
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Do you think that the general increase in social acceptance also makes it easier on the front end of adulthood for young people to consider someone from another race whereas, 30 years ago, the thought would never have occurred to them?

I do. I think that is a huge part of it.

And in the end what I think that has done is broken down a social barrier people didn't realize they had within themselves.



KB5252 said:
Are you saying that because I lean to the right I must be one of those right wing extremists who is secretly printing racial propaganda and distributing it on the streets?

I know you have trouble picking up my sarcasm so I will set the meter off for you.........BEEP BEEP!
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I was actually being complimentary in a jovial sort of a way, especially since its Friday.



getyopopcornready said:
Which is what disturbs me the most. I respect educational theories, facts and opinions. But what I don't respect is someone who's lived in their mom's basement until they were 45 and finally got a job at the dmv and feel they can walk around and throw out ignorant opinions as if someone cares
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BigPapaVol said:
But they can. It's sad. They're Jerry Falwell I'm a different suit, but they can be. Ignoring them is probably the biggest slap in the face you can dish them. They want to provoke a response.
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Its worse than that. BPV's appoach works best for the arrogant government employee whose ego is based in incompetence. This guy knew full well what he was doing was wrong. But you are right in the sense that he probably loves the thought of a US DOJ probe. Haven't looked but how much you want to bet within the week there is at least one legal defense fund set up for him?
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
I would agree with BPV that ....

I recall a study I once read that said the first cause of attraction is proximity... i.e. those who live in the same general area as you. The second cause was association... those that you share common interests with. I remember this study because it listed physical attraction as one of the last elements, and (at least at the time) I wasn't quite sure I believed that to be the case.
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Funny, I thought it was big boobs.
 
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