Interview with Gary Johnson

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I'm with TRUT when he says that popular voting for POTUS and for Senators should be eliminated.
 
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YorkVol said:
Seems to me that if everyone who said "I like Johnson, but I know he won't win, so I'm voting ______" just voted for Johnson then he would actually win.
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There's a big difference between people who can hold a conversation on politics, and the other 90% of the country. That 90% have no ****ing clue who Gary Johnson is. Idiocracy is progressing as planned.
 
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YorkVol said:
Seems to me that if everyone who said "I like Johnson, but I know he won't win, so I'm voting ______" just voted for Johnson then he would actually win.
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If only this were true - but it's not. This board is clearly skewed. I'd bet he still wouldn't crack 25% if the above scenario held. As it is, my guess is he'll be somewhere around 5 to 7%.
 
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volinbham said:
If only this were true - but it's not. This board is clearly skewed. I'd bet he still wouldn't crack 25% if the above scenario held. As it is, my guess is he'll be somewhere around 5 to 7%.
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Ultimately I think I agree with you... I don't know how you feel about his intent but I do think he is trying to have a neutral impact on the election, but I'm just not sure about his ability to match the votes he'll take from Romney with votes he'll take from Obama. And if you're a Republican, it's bad news because if his message will play anywhere, it will be in states stocked with social moderates and low on defense hawks, i.e. Colorado, New Hampshire, the midwest, etc. aka the battleground states.
 
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milohimself said:
Ultimately I think I agree with you... I don't know how you feel about his intent but I do think he is trying to have a neutral impact on the election, but I'm just not sure about his ability to match the votes he'll take from Romney with votes he'll take from Obama. And if you're a Republican, it's bad news because if his message will play anywhere, it will be in states stocked with social moderates and low on defense hawks, i.e. Colorado, New Hampshire, the midwest, etc. aka the battleground states.
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I don't think he has any intent other than getting his message out and if it swings the election for one or the other guy so be it. Completely legit.

I do agree though that his message will more closely appeal to right leaners than left and accordingly he will work in favor of Obama. The only exception is that perhaps many with "Obama-regret" will go Johnson instead of Obama.
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
I like Gary Johnson but I found that statement odd. IMO, the government should have no involvement with marriage.
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I'll try again...

Playing Devil's advocate:

Isn't marriage a contract? If the contract is terminated, who should be the one to settle the dispute and bring about a fair resolution?
 
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volinbham said:
If only this were true - but it's not. This board is clearly skewed. I'd bet he still wouldn't crack 25% if the above scenario held. As it is, my guess is he'll be somewhere around 5 to 7%.
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honest question, why do you think that is? Most new visitors to the Politics forum (usually the left-leaning ones) claim that many on here are typical southern repubs but I'm pretty sure that's not really the case. I just find it odd that so many (seemingly) educated folks spread out around the country could gather around a board devoted to a southern football team and come to the same conclusions. Is it possible the ideas are more widespread but that many either don't know their options or simply haven't given up their GOP roots? If truly and fairly presented with an option like GJ you still believe he only gets 5-7%?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'll try again...

Playing Devil's advocate:

Isn't marriage a contract? If the contract is terminated, who should be the one to settle the dispute and bring about a fair resolution?
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Of course there will be instances where the courts need to get involved to mediate a divorce. Doesn't mean the government should decide whom can and whom can't marry.
 
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utvolpj said:
honest question, why do you think that is? Most new visitors to the Politics forum (usually the left-leaning ones) claim that many on here are typical southern repubs but I'm pretty sure that's not really the case. I just find it odd that so many (seemingly) educated folks spread out around the country could gather around a board devoted to a southern football team and come to the same conclusions. Is it possible the ideas are more widespread but that many either don't know their options or simply haven't given up their GOP roots? If truly and fairly presented with an option like GJ you still believe he only gets 5-7%?
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Just from personal observation...

- This particular forum does lean pretty strongly towards conservatism if not the Republican party in general
- Most people on here do live in the south, and...
- It is a forum centered around college sports, which in most places in the country can tend to draw conservatives. Eugene is about as liberal as a town can get but go to any tailgate at a Ducks game and you'll have to look a lot harder to find Obama bumper stickers than McCain-Palin ones.
- Most people here who lean Libertarian seem to be reformed conservatives.

Again, just based off my own personal observation of the politics forum, but it does have a similar makeup to the region in which UTK lives.
 
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This forum does a good job of scaring off Democrat posters. They are generally run off with either a barrage of insults or just being attacked from all directions. LG, and for a while Gibbs, can take it pretty well. LG's got that whole Gator thing too which makes it hard for anybody to defend him.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
At least we agree that he will be destructive, though. It's just a difference in the degree of severity between Obama and Romney.
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When it comes down to what actually gets enacted I see a much, much smaller gap between Johnson and Romney than between Romney and Obama.
 
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Weezy said:
This forum does a good job of scaring off Democrat posters. They are generally run off with either a barrage of insults or just being attacked from all directions. LG, and for a while Gibbs, can take it pretty well. LG's got that whole Gator thing too which makes it hard for anybody to defend him.
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I've been on boards that are the opposite and it does get old being in the minority.
 
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Gary Johnson Could Appear in Presidential Debates - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

But Brown told Whispers no decisions on candidate selection have been made yet. Those lobbying to get Johnson in the debates, she said, are "making assumptions about something that has not [happened]."
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According to the commission site, a candidate must fulfill three criteria, and Johnson seems to meet them.
Johnson, of course, fulfills an age and nationality requirement, and he has recently met the second criterion as well: That a candidate's name must "appear on enough state ballots to have at least a mathematical chance of securing an Electoral College majority in the 2012 general election."
But the third requirement could lead to Johnson's exclusion. The commission requires a candidate to secure at least 15 percent in selected polls, which Johnson has not yet done. (Gary Johnson polled at 5.3 percent in a poll earlier this month by JZ Analytics; an April Public Policy Polling poll showed him at 6 percent.)
Johnson campaign spokesman Joe Hunter told Whispers of the 15 center benchmark: "We're certainly working towards that and hoping to achieve it."
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Johnson's supporters have centered much of their polling frustrations on CNN, which has not included the candidate in their polling since last September.
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