Iowa Football Players Put Fans On Notice

I have to respectfully disagree. A person's dress may help in some instances, but a lot of people are judged by their skin color first. I was reading about people at Fenway park throwing slurs at Adam Jones in 2017. He had on the same uniform as the other players right? Remember the UK fan caught on tape dropping slurs at UT fans after the game they lost. She was mad they were UT fans but went after their skin when she made her comments.
There will always be racist. Those folks should be called out and shamed, period. The fact is the judgment is much less and much different today.
Laws can’t fix personal prejudice. We went from a time full of radical people who wouldn’t hesitate to use the n word to a time where it is anathema. On the historical timeline that is huge. You have people now who don’t want progress, they want war. They want anarchy and they know they can get it through race wars.
 
If the sight of a player kneeling during the national anthem causes you not to watch a football game, I’d question how big a football fan you were to begin with.

I’m there to watch the game. Hell, most of the time I’m at the concession stand during the national anthem.

Once you start giving in to demands that detract from the primary objective of why you are on the football field then you're at the mercy of the next time they are offended about something. It starts to be a cancer in the locker room.
 
Once you start giving in to demands that detract from the primary objective of why you are on the football field then you're at the mercy of the next time they are offended about something. It starts to be a cancer in the locker room.
Thanks for the laugh. I love overdramatizations
 
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You’re missing my point. I’m saying most of the judgments that are taken as racism are not based on race at all, but on how a person dresses, talks, behaves, etc.
when I judge this redneck (and I do) it has nothing to do with their skin color.
What qualifies a person to be a redneck in your opinion?
 
I often wonder if adding the word ‘too’ to BLM would give a stronger more unifying message. Really, all lives matter, but if you say that the perception is you are some kind of racist. I get it- it’s to shed light on a situation, but it’s a very polarizing message. I heard a reporter got reprimanded for saying all lives matter. I have a hard time grasping that.
 
I often wonder if adding the word ‘too’ to BLM would give a stronger more unifying message. Really, all lives matter, but if you say that the perception is you are some kind of racist. I get it- it’s to shed light on a situation, but it’s a very polarizing message. I heard a reporter got reprimanded for saying all lives matter. I have a hard time grasping that.
Communist BLM would just call you a racist and say that you just don't get it.:rolleyes:
 
Does it matter. Man, you don’t get it.
I understand the point you were making but you stated you have a negative opinion about people driving up with redneck music playing. I’m not a redneck but there is a possibility I enjoy listening to music you say is redneck. If I do does that mean you would have a negative opinion of me? Educate me in what qualifies a person to be a redneck that you would look down on.
 
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I understand the point you were making but you stated you have a negative opinion about people driving up with redneck music playing. I’m not a redneck but there is a possibility I enjoy listening to music you say is redneck. If I do does that mean you would have a negative opinion of me? Educate me in what qualifies a person to be a redneck that you would look down on.
I love Willie and Waylon. George Jones. Skynard.
music alone isn’t the thing, but only a piece in the puzzle.
 
I’ve been to Neyland nine times, from 1994 to 2010.

Sat in top row of Section NN in 1996, close to the old V O L S sign. You can damn near see Nashville’s skyline from up that high.

OT question. I have never been of the opinion that Neyland was that loud and yes I was there in '98 for the Fl-UT game. Placed rocked but for the most part, we seem to sit on our hands.
 
OT question. I have never been of the opinion that Neyland was that loud and yes I was there in '98 for the Fl-UT game. Placed rocked but for the most part, we seem to sit on our hands.
Are you kidding or trolling? I was there, and for OK a couple of years ago, and that was loud! Mind you both times I was on the second row in the south end zone so that might be the difference between me and you.
The only event in my life that was louder was setting in front of the speakers at a Cheap Trick concert in 1982
 
Are you kidding or trolling? I was there, and for OK a couple of years ago, and that was loud! Mind you both times I was on the second row in the south end zone so that might be the difference between me and you.
The only event in my life that was louder was setting in front of the speakers at a Cheap Trick concert in 1982

I agree with him, at least in my experience. Neyland is loud, but not as loud as it should be with that many people.

Granted, my last visit was 2010. Since then I’ve heard people here claim the Oklahoma game was consistently louder than our 1998 and 2004 games.

In my travels, for consistent crowd noise for 60 minutes, nobody touches LSU on a Saturday night
 
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I agree with him, at least in my experience. Neyland is loud, but not as loud as it should be with that many people. Granted, my last visit was 2010. Since then I’ve heard from people here claim the Oklahoma game was consistently louder than our 1998 and 2004 games.

In my travels, for consistent crowd noise for 60 minutes, nobody touches LSU on a Saturday night

Same here. Vol fans have a much calmer approach to fan participation, it's always been strange as if it is the nature of the beast. LSU is in another category all together. Ben Hill is close. Clemson, several others.
 
Same here. Vol fans have a much calmer approach to fan participation, it's always been strange as if it is the nature of the beast. LSU is in another category all together. Ben Hill is close. Clemson, several others.

The Swamp doesn’t rock like it used to, primarily because our student section has gone soft. They show up halfway through the first quarter and if the game isn’t close enough they’re gone midway through the fourth quarter.

That said, last year’s Auburn and FSU games were loud...ditto for LSU in 2018...but not 90s crazy loud when students didn’t have smartphones to stare at between plays.
 
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The Swamp doesn’t rock like it used to, primarily because our student section has gone soft. They show up halfway through the first quarter and if the game isn’t close enough they’re gone midway through the fourth quarter.

wow times changed, people change I suppose.

That said, last year’s Auburn and FSU games were loud...ditto for LSU in 2018...but not 90s crazy loud when students didn’t have smartphones to stare at between plays.

Never thought about the cell phone use but you're right.
 
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I often wonder if adding the word ‘too’ to BLM would give a stronger more unifying message. Really, all lives matter, but if you say that the perception is you are some kind of racist. I get it- it’s to shed light on a situation, but it’s a very polarizing message. I heard a reporter got reprimanded for saying all lives matter. I have a hard time grasping that.
They want it to be polarizing
 
Just asking the question. Totally understand you not being able to answer.
There’s a difference in not being able to answer and stating I’m not going to comment
if that’s what you actually meant, my apologies
 
We're all just a bunch of evil white devils;)

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Truth is dozens of white kids aren’t getting killed each weekend like black kids are in Chicago and more across the country. That is a fact no one wants to address. Many of these young men leave children to grow up w/o a father, the #1 factor causing poverty.

On this Web page we talk about a former UF player who was shot & killed, 41 years old, from the same culture. That has to change. Call it racism if you want but I think it’s racist to deny that is a huge problem.
 
Truth is dozens of white kids aren’t getting killed each weekend like black kids are in Chicago and more across the country. That is a fact no one wants to address. Many of these young men leave children to grow up w/o a father, the #1 factor causing poverty.

On this Web page we talk about a former UF player who was shot & killed, 41 years old, from the same culture. That has to change. Call it racism if you want but I think it’s racist to deny that is a huge problem.

I don't know if the cycle of poverty is more about fatherless households as it is about having a reasonable number of children and holding off from having ANY until the parent (or parents) are able to afford them. The welfare system perpetuates poverty. Especially when having more children is an incentive to get more government assistance.
 
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