iPhone vs. Droid

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#283
LTE is solid.

LTE Advanced in the coming years will be even better. Sprint announced their rollout for first half of 2013. Projected speeds of 100Mbps on mobile phones (30-60 realistically would be awesome). I don't think any other carrier has announced LTE Advanced plans yet.

I'd bet good money we see an iPhone 5 launch late summer with LTE on all carriers, like every other phone launching at that time.
 
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govols/cc said:
Theoretically I think it will be the iPhone 6 but yea I will agree with everything else.
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Yep. I switched over to Verizon in part because it'll make it easier to move to their LTE down the road, but I dont expect that to be on the next iteration of the iPhone. Apple won't include it until the battery life is similar to what they ship now, and I don't think that'll be next year.

I'm on wifi ~95 percent of the time anyway, so I just don't care that much when it's ready. I care way way more about the battery than I do cell data download speeds.
 
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Speaking of Android, you guys see this thing today that the Samsung Galaxy S isn't going to get Ice Cream Sandwich because it doesn't have the hardware to run it alongside their special Samsung skin and other "enhancements"? If I ever do switch to Android, there's no way I'm getting anything other than one of the Nexus-branded reference models. The way the carriers and OEMs handle Android upgrades is ridiculous. The phone is still freaking on sale and it's already obsolete.
 
#287
#287
Well...Samsung has long had a reputation for the being the absolute worst when it comes to updates. Not really a surprise a phone over a year and a half old isn't going to get the new operating system. They could do it, but what's the point? Why not support your current models and your next wave of phones? Updating a year and a half old phone just doesn't make them any money. And a Galaxy S will still work. Just b/c it's not on the latest software doesn't mean it isn't still working.

The carriers are the biggest delay. They will sit on an update for months testing it.

Nexus phones are great, but there's also a lot of cool features in some manufacturer's UI. I could go either way, especially if there's a good dev community for a non-nexus model. The EVO dev community was just incredible.
 
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I've got the iPhone 4 and I love it. My mom and sister have Droid X 2's. I've tried to play with their phones but I don't like them at all. My mom is ready for an upgrade and she is trying to decide if she should stay with an Android or make the switch to the iPhone 4S. Other than the fact that she has had Droids for several years I would recommend she switch to the iPhone.

I'm typing this on my new MacBook Pro. Also, the kids are getting iPod Touches for Christmas.
 
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DrRosenRosen said:
Well...Samsung has long had a reputation for the being the absolute worst when it comes to updates. Not really a surprise a phone over a year and a half old isn't going to get the new operating system. They could do it, but what's the point? Why not support your current models and your next wave of phones? Updating a year and a half old phone just doesn't make them any money. And a Galaxy S will still work. Just b/c it's not on the latest software doesn't mean it isn't still working.

The carriers are the biggest delay. They will sit on an update for months testing it.

Nexus phones are great, but there's also a lot of cool features in some manufacturer's UI. I could go either way, especially if there's a good dev community for a non-nexus model. The EVO dev community was just incredible.
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See, I don't think that's completely true. These Android OEMs know that they are essentially interchangeable [1], which is why they try so desperately to differentiate themselves with weird branding, UI skins, superfluous stuff. But underneath it's basically interchangeable phones running the same Google software. There's absolutely no reason why today's Samsung customer would hesitate to buy an HTC as his next Android phone, for example. So why not differentiate and build user loyalty with service? Why not bend over to be known as the OEM that supports their phones the longest? Why not encourage people to choose your phone over the others because they know they'll get the next major Android update whenever it comes out? That's the kind of differentiation that builds loyalty -- not TouchWiz vs SenseUI or whatever they're called.

My wife's iPhone 3GS is two and a half years old and still runs the current version of the operating system. Apple isn't still supporting it because they're into throwing money away; they're still supporting it because they know that's how they build loyal customers who buy more Apple hardware in the future. Android OEMs should do the same.


[1] (Until the Motorola acquisition goes fully through, of course, and Motorola becomes more equal than everybody else)
 
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Have the droids improved on their battery life yet? That's one of the main reasons I switched to iPhone. That, and apps seem to be more stable on the iPhone.
 
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volthruandthru said:
Have the droids improved on their battery life yet? That's one of the main reasons I switched to iPhone. That, and apps seem to be more stable on the iPhone.
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See prev discussion.

Fyi. Verizon is having a half off lte droid extended batt sale. For google users.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
See, I don't think that's completely true. These Android OEMs know that they are essentially interchangeable [1], which is why they try so desperately to differentiate themselves with weird branding, UI skins, superfluous stuff. But underneath it's basically interchangeable phones running the same Google software. There's absolutely no reason why today's Samsung customer would hesitate to buy an HTC as his next Android phone, for example. So why not differentiate and build user loyalty with service? Why not bend over to be known as the OEM that supports their phones the longest? Why not encourage people to choose your phone over the others because they know they'll get the next major Android update whenever it comes out? That's the kind of differentiation that builds loyalty -- not TouchWiz vs SenseUI or whatever they're called.
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Good in theory, but in reality, Samsung rose from next to nothing to king of the hill in Androids the past 2 years. And are still known to be the worst at updating.

Old units don't really make the money. If you use the same resources that would be updating previous models and apply it to your newest or next phone, you get a better return. Customers will complain all day about a brand and then sit there and upgrade to the same brand.

Honestly, I said I'd never buy a Samsung phone for over a year. But, I ended up buying a GS2. The biggest reason I have it is because the hardware is amazing. It was king until the Galaxy Nexus and possibly the Razr launched.

There's not much brand loyalty with phones. It's moving too quickly. That's one big reason the iPhone continues to lose marketshare to Android. I don't think Android lends itself to that type of brand loyalty which is what open sourced is all about. Can be good and bad as evident in this thread. All the while, Samsung just keeps pumping out new phones everyday it seems, crappy and good.
 
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DrRosenRosen said:
Good in theory, but in reality, Samsung rose from next to nothing to king of the hill in Androids the past 2 years. And are still known to be the worst at updating.

Old units don't really make the money. If you use the same resources that would be updating previous models and apply it to your newest or next phone, you get a better return. Customers will complain all day about a brand and then sit there and upgrade to the same brand.

Honestly, I said I'd never buy a Samsung phone for over a year. But, I ended up buying a GS2. The biggest reason I have it is because the hardware is amazing. It was king until the Galaxy Nexus and possibly the Razr launched.

There's not much brand loyalty with phones. It's moving too quickly. That's one big reason the iPhone continues to lose marketshare to Android. I don't think Android lends itself to that type of brand loyalty which is what open sourced is all about. Can be good and bad as evident in this thread. All the while, Samsung just keeps pumping out new phones everyday it seems, crappy and good.
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There certainly is brand loyalty with the iPhone. It's not impossible. And it's not a coincidence that as a result, they're making far more profit than everybody else in the industry.

One thing that the Amazon Fire demonstrates (which will be further underlined when the Facebook-branded phone comes out and basically forks completely off from Android too) is that it's a mistake to think of this as a game between Apple on one side and an "Android team" that consists of Goggle, Samsung, HTC, Motorola, and all the other OEMs on the other. The OEMs certainly don't think of themselves as being on the same team; they're in competition against each other. Which is why I think it's such a mistake for them to each release 20+ phones a year and then basically wash their hands vis-a-vis updates the second each one is out the door; I'm convinced that there's room in the market for someone to be the high-end maker of Android phones -- release only a couple of models a year, make them all high quality, support them with updates for two years. The reason Android hasn't leant itself to brand loyalty yet is because all the manufacturers so clearly treat their phones as disposable flavors-of-the-month.
 
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