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#901
#901
Rasputin_Vol said:
What difference does it make? Outside of nukes, Israel and the US can't do diddly-squat.
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US could send Bombers and absolutely level the Tehranian gov or infrastructure, military bases, dismantle their oil export and production capacity.

Each B-2 can carry 160 SDBs with independently targeted precision, B-1s, plus tactical aircraft like F15-E, Super Hornets, F-16s, etc etc.

Would that overthrow the gov, probably not, but dent them so hard they would suffer immense economic effects that would drastically diminish their funding and weapons transfers to their proxies.

BTW..Iran launches hundreds of those vanted cheap Iranian weapons and didnt hit ****. Now to your cost, quantity matrix, there are so many programs to more cheaply disable drones including precision cannon fire rounds, microwaves, jamming, etc..

Now ask yourself, would you feel safer as an Iranian faving the full might of the Israeli or US armed forces, or visa versa? Iran would get the absolute dog **** kicked out of them, despite all your vaunted military expertise.
 
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#902
McDad said:
Whether they agree or not is of no concern to me.
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When you're trying to be accepted into their club? I'd think one would.

They were the chosen ones by god. Whether they wanted it or not.

God chose already. You aren't above that decision.
 
#907
#907
85SugarVol said:
You know what might be good for countering slow, low-flying drones?

Mobile CIWS installations? 🤷‍♀️
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I disagree..a few miles range at best and you have to know the direction and targets. I guess you could employ hundreds, but then dont get your cost benefit.

If anybody in the world knows how to defend airspace, it is the Israelis, and they are not going that direction.
 
#909
#909
Orangeburst said:
US could send Bombers and absolutely level the Tehranian gov or infrastructure, military bases
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No they can't.

Orangeburst said:
,dismantle their oil export and production capacity.
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Wait... you want to dismantle their oil sector?

WTF will that do to oil prices?

Have you thought this out throughly?

Orangeburst said:
Each B-2 can carry 160 SDBs with independently targeted precision, B-1s, plus tactical aircraft like F15-E, Super Hornets, F-16s, etc etc.

Would that overthrow the gov, probably not, but dent them so hard they would suffer immense economic effects that would drastically diminish their funding and weapons transfers to their proxies.
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The US couldn't do jack with the Houthis bombing them to rubble. WTF do you think they will do with the Iranians?

Orangeburst said:
BTW..Iran launches hundreds of those vanted cheap Iranian weapons and didnt hit ****.
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Orangeburst said:
Now to your cost, quantity matrix, there are so many programs to more cheaply disable drones including precision cannon fire rounds, microwaves, jamming, etc..
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We will see.

Orangeburst said:
Now ask yourself, would you feel safer as an Iranian faving the full might of the Israeli or US armed forces, or visa versa? Iran would get the absolute dog **** kicked out of them, despite all your vaunted military expertise.
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I don't think either side should feel comfortable at this point. The Israelis nukes and the Iranians has an obvious advantage in asymmetrical warrfare.
 
#911
#911
Orangeburst said:
I disagree..a few miles range at best and you have to know the direction and targets. I guess you could employ hundreds, but then dont get your cost benefit.

If anybody in the world knows how to defend airspace, it is the Israelis, and they are not going that direction.
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They couldn’t be used as a standalone countermeasure. Only a complimentary one.

They knew hours ahead of time those lawnmower drones were coming - move the CIWS in front of them…
 
#914
#914
Velo Vol said:
I don't know, I'm not in the situation room. I do know the administration has done a reasonably good balancing act of the competing interests in its policy toward Israel since October 7.

I do know the multi-national response was quite effective in thwarting an attack today.

That's the bottom line.
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Fair enough
 
#918
#918
Rasputin_Vol said:
No they can't.


Wait... you want to dismantle their oil sector?

WTF will that do to oil prices?

Have you thought this out throughly?


The US couldn't do jack with the Houthis bombing them to rubble. WTF do you think they will do with the Iranians?




We will see.


I don't think either side should feel comfortable at this point. The Israelis nukes and the Iranians has an obvious advantage in asymmetrical warrfare.
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Yes, they could.

The US has waved the equivalent of a feather at your beloved Houthis. Could squash them like a bug if they chose to.
 
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#919
Rasputin_Vol said:
No they can't.


Wait... you want to dismantle their oil sector?

WTF will that do to oil prices?

Have you thought this out throughly?


The US couldn't do jack with the Houthis bombing them to rubble. WTF do you think they will do with the Iranians?




We will see.


I don't think either side should feel comfortable at this point. The Israelis nukes and the Iranians has an obvious advantage in asymmetrical warrfare.
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I knew your panties would get twisted.

I only addressed your nonsense that the US couldnt do squat…which is absolutely such a stupid ass statement, that I knew I should not of responded.
You seem to correlate a theoretical with something I support..you do that all the time.
 
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#921
volbound1700 said:
Bush Jr was right, Iran and North Korea are part of an Axis of Evil. They are evil nations that offer nothing to the humans species.
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They are fellow human beings ruled by an elite few. Not evil nations. Evil leaders.

Iran is actually very modern, cosmpolitan, and young. But the old religious leaders rule over the country with an iron fist. Read about them. Individually, they are quite Western and similar to ourselves even. It is the older non-secular portion that ruins it all for a huge, beautiful country.

The North Koreans have been brainwashed over decades by their leaders. Look at South Korea, their own people, but under free leadership...a fine and peaceful people and country.

These are not bad nations of people at all. They just need new leadership, but they're currently under the thumb of rulers that are very hard to circumvent.
 
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#922
#922
Rasputin_Vol said:
Seriously? Why is their tragedy more superior than anyone else's since 1945?

The Nazis killed 25+ million Soviet citizens. Do you have the same feeling about them?
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The Russian people sure. But unlike Israeli leadership the Russian government would side with the Iranian government in doing harm to this country.
 
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#925
Devo182 said:
They are fellow human beings ruled by an elite few. Not evil nations. Evil leaders.

Iran is actually very modern, cosmpolitan, and young. But the old religious leaders rule over the country with an iron fist. Read about them. Individually, they are quite Western and similar to ourselves even. It is the older non-secular portion that ruins it all for a huge, beautiful country.

The North Koreans have been brainwashed over decades by their leaders. Look at South Korea, their own people, but under free leadership...a fine and peaceful people and country.

These are not bad nations of people at all. They just need new leadership, but they're currently under the thumb of rulers that are very hard to circumvent.
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And we’re not in much of a different place.
 
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