Iraq can thank George Bush

#31
#31
Classy. Shows the brain of a wannabe conservative.

Back up your claims that the war is lost, boy.

You can holler classy all you want. You have nothing but the personal attack. Your youth and lack of life experience shine through clearly. You are unequivocally the most uninformed poster in the political forum.

Your thoughts and opinions are those you hear in the high school cafeteria. Shows the brain of a wannabe adult.
 
#32
#32
1) Back up your claims that war is lost, boy.

2) You can holler classy all you want. You have nothing but the personal attack. Your youth and lack of life experience shine through clearly. You are unequivocally the most uninformed poster in the political forum.

3) Your thoughts and opinions are those you hear in the high school cafeteria. Shows the brain of a wannabe adult.

1. Did I ever say the war is lost? I just said, if we've won the war, how come our troops aren't home yet? It's a freaking reasonable question.

2. If you're calling me the most uninformed poster on here, then you must not have seen yourself post yet. Thus, you are a hypocrite. You know, you call anyone a liberal, and uninformed, that doesn't agree with you? You're the only one on here that does that. joevol doesn't even do that with the regularity that you do it with.

3. Again, this goes back to the "you claim all I have is the personal attack, but then you do it yourself" thing I was talking about. You know, I am the youngest on here. I have no problem admitting, I more than likely, don't know as much as most on here. I come here to debate politics, not life experience. If I wanted to do that, I'd go to another forum.
 
#33
#33
1. Did I ever say the war is lost? I just said, if we've won the war, how come our troops aren't home yet? It's a freaking reasonable question.

2. If you're calling me the most uninformed poster on here, then you must not have seen yourself post yet. Thus, you are a hypocrite. You know, you call anyone a liberal, and uninformed, that doesn't agree with you? You're the only one on here that does that. joevol doesn't even do that with the regularity that you do it with.

3. Again, this goes back to the "you claim all I have is the personal attack, but then you do it yourself" thing I was talking about. You know, I am the youngest on here. I have no problem admitting, I more than likely, don't know as much as most on here. I come here to debate politics, not life experience. If I wanted to do that, I'd go to another forum.
No, there are several very informed liberals on here. It's just that you aren't one of them.

You have made more than one personal attack on me today. Do I respond in defense? You can bet your life I will.

You claim you asked a reasonable question? How about answering a few that have been asked of the liberals? I know you were scared to tackle Obama's racism. Here, tackle BPV's question.


http://www.volnation.com/forum/politics/65634-all-equating-unions-middle-class-prosperity.html
 
#40
#40
This week might be the most significant and crucial week in the history of the Iraq War. The Sunni are participating in the provincial elections. This is a great step, however, it is most certainly not an end in itself.

What the world should hope for is a large contingent of Sunni candidates winning their races. The Sunni need to hold enough weight to actually influence the civic processes in Iraq. If this happens, then the Sunni people will have faith in the government. If it does not, then they will lose faith in the government. That despair could easily lead to a reversal of the security gains made over the past two years. This would, most likely, throw the country into a massive civil war, and I believe our new administration would opt to completely withdrawal from Iraq.

Saying we have "won" is certainly jumping the gun. We are winning. We need these elections to work out favorably, though.
 
#41
#41
Stephen Hadley was pretty much right about the first-term when he said "I give us a B- for policy development, and a D- for policy execution."
I do find it interesting that the Sec Def took the fall, though. The policy that failed was all on the side of the State Department. Colin Powell came out smelling like roses, though.
 
#42
#42
He damn sure gets credit for WINNING the war!
Winning a war that he started under false pretenses against a country that could barely defend themselves? All hail George Bush then! I guess I could beat up the kid in the wheelchair down the street to get that kind of sense of accomplishment.
 
#43
#43
Winning a war that he started under false pretenses against a country that could barely defend themselves? All hail George Bush then! I guess I could beat up the kid in the wheelchair down the street to get that kind of sense of accomplishment.

I got $5 on the kid.
 
#46
#46
You do understand that in terms of both percentage of GDP and federal spending, OIF is one of the least costly wars in American history, right?

Which is another very good reason why war should be a last resort.

Compare it to the Persian Gulf War if you want to make a comparison.
 
#47
#47
I'm entertained by 'mismanaged war' commentary from people who have no idea about strategic management of a war, including all of us.
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You don't think it was mismanaged, considering more troops have died post "mission accomplished" than before?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the military has done a superb job in spite of gross negligence by the policy makers.
 
#49
#49
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the military has done a superb job in spite of gross negligence by the policy makers.

this can be said for any war, fought at any time in history.
 
#50
#50
this can be said for any war, fought at any time in history.

I disagree. How many have lasted this long after major combat operations ceased? WWI, WWII, Korea, Gulf War...none had more US troops die after MCO. From the beginning of this conflict the military has bailed out the Bush administration's failed policies one after another.

Your statement seems like grasping at straws in any reason you can find to defend the last administration's handling of this war.
 

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