Is anyone tired of hearing 'first African American president'??

[therealUT]

Would someone please PM me if they believe a valid discussion occurred in this thread after the third post (that is where I stopped reading this garbage)?

 

[JZVOL]

Displaced Jews were known as Russian Jews, German Jews, etc. It may not be the best example since Jew can refer to both a religion and ethnicity. I honestly don't know the answer to that question though.

I thought about that too.

I'm actually really curious about this now...

 

[gsvol]

The point that I took from the article was that as a Kenyan, he had less in common with many of the current African-Americans in the US because they descended largely from west-African slaves and the Kenyans were in no way related to West-Africans. However, that point is a bit silly to me. Is African-American a term that can only apply to West-Africans?

If his father is Kenyan, and Kenya is in African, I would say that makes Obama an African-American in the sense that he descends from an African. Perhaps more importantly is the fact that Obama looks black...and he identifies as such...and in that sense calls himself an African-American. Obviously a given what we popularly attach to the term, white South-Africans would likely not come here and call themselves African-American unless it was tounge-in-cheek or to make a point.

Yes, he's half white and half black. He is more related to Middle-Easterners genetically than West-Africans.....all that is true. Would you prefer that we just refer to him as a multi-national, middle-eastern-genetics-containing, mulatto? He also looks black and his father is from Africa. I'm personally not offended or disturbed by hearing him referred to as an African-American.

BHO's father was listed as Arab-Kenyan by the Kenyan government.

The worst, most inhumane and most diabolical institution of the black African slave trade was initiated, refined, perpetrated and implemented by the Mohammedan Arabs and later aided and abetted by the black converts to Mohammedan Islam.

Obamas father by his own words was less than 1/4 Black African . His ancestors trace back to Arabia. They came to Kenya when the slave trade was the major thing going in Kenya.

Kenya was the capital of the slave trade in the 1800s.

An excellent book on this topic:

Excerpts from a review by Shemsi en Tehuti;

Certain words in the Arabic language demonstrate just how integral white supremacy is ingrained in Arabic culture. For instance, the word for "slave" is abd, Abdullah means the "slave of Allah," where all Blacks/Africans are called Abeed (plural for slaves).

Another interesting fact was that the Arabic-Islamic slave trade in the trans-Saharan and East African slave markets had mortality rates as high as 80-90%, where the trans-Atlantic slave trade with Europeans is estimated at 10-30%. Also, in the trans-Atlantic, there were 2 men for every woman that went to the Americas. However, it was reversed with the Arabic-Islamic slave trade in that it took 2 women for every man (where all men were castrated).

With the men already being castrated, the children born to our women were regularly killed at birth, which explains why there isn't a much higher African/Black population in West Asia like that in Brazil and the United States. The death toll of Africans from the trans-Saharan and East African Islamic slave trade may be upwards of 140 million souls.

Here is an excellent on line history of slavery in Africa.

 

[emainvol]

Would someone please PM me if they believe a valid discussion occurred in this thread after the third post (that is where I stopped reading this garbage)?

JZ and I just hit a valid point, but for the most part this thread is pretty worthless.

 

[gsvol]

Is America the only country in the world that uses the continent or country where descendants are from- country you live in now thing?

I actually think it would be and interesting research project.

Has it now become a thing where only people with skin that isn't clearly white use the hyphen thing?

For decades Irish-Americans were discriminated against, aside from slavery, as any group in the country. I'm curious when that started to change and why?

Are black people in England referred to as African-Brits?

If I moved to France would my kids, born in France be called North American-Frenchmen?

This topic would make a good book IMO.

The foremost promoters of the 'black/white' rhetoric and the promotion of racial strife in America have been marxist/socialist front groups.

Another oft misused (although it isn't used as much now as it has been in the past) term is calling all light skinned people Anglo-Saxon or 'Anglos', when in fact the person being referred to may have little if any Angle and/or Saxon ancestry.

Someone against change or progress

Then don't color me as a far right reactionary.

I am all for change, I just want to know what the change will be before I support it.

The only constant thing is that there will be change of some sort, no matter what happens, change for the sake of change isn't necessarily a good thing, it can be a bad thing.

I don't believe more socialism will be good for Americans and I'm certainly against surrendering any more national sovereignty to a corrupt and incompetent United Nations or to the equally corrupt World Court.

In fact the "Progressive Caucus" in the US Congress is affiliated with "The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), which is the largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International.

We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit.

We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order.

Just because you call something progress doesn't necessarily make it progress, as a matter of fact what you probably would call progress isn't new, it has been tried over and over and has always failed.

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

Is America the only country in the world that uses the continent or country where descendants are from- country you live in now thing?

I actually think it would be and interesting research project.

Has it now become a thing where only people with skin that isn't clearly white use the hyphen thing?

For decades Irish-Americans were discriminated against, aside from slavery, as any group in the country. I'm curious when that started to change and why?

Are black people in England referred to as African-Brits?

If I moved to France would my kids, born in France be called North American-Frenchmen?

This topic would make a good book IMO.

i would never let my kids have that title...