Is obesity a large problem in American?

#51
#51
Two very different things. Especially in moderation.

Some parents do not moderate, which is the problem. In my opinion, I do not see a difference in stuffing your kid as fat as Don Vito and sticking cancer sticks in their mouth. My point is, why is it ok for the gov to dictate whether or not you can kill your kid by lung cancer but they cant control parents killing them with heart failure?
 
#53
#53
??? they are only controlled by age limitations. If I think my son or daughter should be able to drink a few coors lights at the age of 11, shouldnt I, the parent, be able to make that decision? A parent that feed their child Big Mac's everyday of their life is just as harmful to their child as one who would give them booze at an early age...imo

I'm not so sure I believe in the age limits anyway as long as I don't have to pay for their mistakes in the future. Of course that will never happen either
 
#55
#55
I'm not so sure I believe in the age limits anyway as long as I don't have to pay for their mistakes in the future. Of course that will never happen either

I would argue for changing the age limits...but most of it has to do with maturity. Is a 16 year old mature enough to handle alcohol? I don't know.

I do think, however, that if I or anyone is legally allowed to hold a operate a firearm/go to war, then they are mature enough to have a beer.
 
#56
#56
I would argue for changing the age limits...but most of it has to do with maturity. Is a 16 year old mature enough to handle alcohol? I don't know.

are they able to operate a car which is much more dangerous?

the problem is most high schoolers are not going to identify alcohol as a drug. They should be well aware of the fact that walking to the bathroom and sweating thru your 4X Buffet shirt is not normal
 
#57
#57
??? they are only controlled by age limitations. If I think my son or daughter should be able to drink a few coors lights at the age of 11, shouldnt I, the parent, be able to make that decision? A parent that feed their child Big Mac's everyday of their life is just as harmful to their child as one who would give them booze at an early age...imo

Depending on the state you live in, you can feed your children alcohol:
Alaska
- No one under the age of 21 is allowed to consume, possess, or control alcoholic beverages except; if a parent gives it to his/her child, or if a guardian gives it to his/her ward, or a legal spouse (wife or husband over 21) gives it to his/her spouse. This may only happen off licensed premises (i.e. not in bars, liquor stores, etc.). Here is an interesting law; any one under 16 year of age is not allowed to enter a place where alcohol beverages are sold, served, or consumed unless with someone who is over 21 years of age. But any one under 21 years of age may be denied entry, or not be served, or may be requested to leave the premises where the alcohol beverages are sold, served, or consumed. To me that seems to be a form of age discrimination especially for 18, 19, and 20 year olds. Anyone under the age of 21 is not allowed to drive a motor vehicle after consuming any quantity of alcohol. For anyone 21 years of age or older may not drive if they have a BAC of .08 or higher.

Colorado
- No one under the age of 21 is allowed to consume or possess alcohol unless a parent or guardian gives permission for their child or ward to drink, but only on private property and under the supervision of the parent or guardian. Anyone under the age of 21 can't drive any motor vehicle with a BAC of .02 but less than a BAC of .05. Anyone 21 years of age or older may not drive if they have a BAC of .10 or higher.

Georgia
- No one under 21 year of age is allowed to possess alcohol (therefore you can't drink it either) unless at home when the parent or guardian gives it to his/her child or ward and the parent or guardian is present (supervising). It's illegal to drive a motor vehicle with a BAC of .02 or higher if under the age of 21. For anyone 21 years of age or older may not drive if they have a BAC of .08 or higher.

Indiana
- No one under the age of 21 years is allowed to consume, transport, or possess alcohol. But he/she is allowed to consume, transport, or posses alcohol when supervised by the parent or guardian. Something also interesting, no one under the age of 18 is allowed in tavern, bar, or other public place where alcoholic beverages are sold, bartered, exchanged, given away, provided, or furnished. But is allowed when the child is with a parent, guardian, trustee, or other person having custody of the child, and who is older that 21 years of age. This law does not apply to places like a sports arena, convention center, and etc. (the complete list is found at the given link below). Anyone under the age of 21 can not drive any motor vehicle with a BAC of .02 but less than a BAC of .08. For anyone 21 years of age or older can not drive if they have a BAC of .08 but less than a BAC of .15.

Iowa
- No one under the age of 21 is allowed to consume or posses alcohol, unless at a private home when the parent or guardian gives it to his/her child or ward and the said parent or guardian is present (supervising). Also anyone under the age of 21 can not drive any motor vehicle with a BAC of .02 or higher. For anyone 21 years of age or older may not drive if they have a BAC of .10 or higher.

New York
- No one under the age of 21 is allowed to buy or posses alcohol. But you can drink alcohol if you are a student in a curriculum licensed or registered by the state education department and is required to taste or imbibe alcoholic beverages in courses which are part of the required curriculum. Also you can consume alcohol if it is give to you by your guardian or parent.

Ohio
- No one under the age of 21 is allowed to possess or consume any alcohol in any public or private place, unless the underage person is accompanied by a parent, spouse who is not an underage person, or legal guardian. Also anyone under the age of 18 is not allowed to possess or consume any low-alcohol beverage in any public or private place, unless accompanied by a parent, spouse who is not an underage person, or legal guardian. The limit of intoxication to drive a vehicle for someone under 21 years of age is a concentration of at least two-hundredths of one gram but less than ten-hundredths of one gram by weight of alcohol per two hundred ten liters of the person's breath. For everyone 21 years of age or more it's concentration of ten-hundredths of one per cent or more but less than seventeen-hundredths of one per cent by weight of alcohol in the person's blood.

South Dakota
- No one under the age of 21 is allowed to purchase, possess, or consume alcohol. But an 18 year old or older can drink alcohol if done in the immediate presence of a parent or guardian or spouse over twenty-one years of age. Also if under18 years old you can still drink alcohol as long it's in the immediate presence of a parent or guardian or spouse, who is at least twenty-one years of age, while not on the premises of an establishment licensed for the retail sale of alcoholic beverages. Also anyone under the age of 21 can not drive any motor vehicle with a BAC of .02 or higher. For anyone 21 years of age or older may not drive if they have a BAC of .10 or higher.

Texas
- No one under the age of 21 is allowed to purchase, posses, or consume alcohol. Possession and consumption of alcohol is legal for minors if under the supervision of a parent, guardian or spouse. Anyone under the age of 21 can not drive a motor vehicle with any traceable amounts of alcohol in the blood stream. I couldn't find the legal BAC limit for 21 year olds and older.

National Youth Rights Association - Drinking Age and Alcohol Laws for All 50 States
 
#58
#58
why is this being put on the gov't? I damn sure wasn't overweight as a kid and it's not because Reagan was working hard for me

Exactly.

This is the construction of a living arrangement suited to the needs of Capital and not the needs of people. It is not the government's fault.

In fact, it is yet another case of the government being the only institution able to clean up the externalities of Capitalist abuse.
 
#59
#59
Exactly.

This is the construction of a living arrangement suited to the needs of Capital and not the needs of people. It is not the government's fault.

In fact, it is yet another case of the government being the only institution able to clean up the externalities of Capitalist abuse.

I dare you to make less sense. Like UTPJ I wasn't fat either and it wasn't because Happy Meals, Twinkies, Fruit Loops and Ding Dongs weren't available. (hell, there were even Pringles) If anything they pushed some sugary stuff (especially cereals) harder back then than they do now.
 
#60
#60
I dare you to make less sense. Like UTPJ I wasn't fat either and it wasn't because Happy Meals, Twinkies, Fruit Loops and Ding Dongs weren't available. (hell, there were even Pringles) If anything they pushed some sugary stuff (especially cereals) harder back then than they do now.

I ate McDonalds or Wendy's nearly every week, and for lunch, Red Barron frozen pizza, coke and chocolate chip cookies. My school didn't have a cafeteria, we ate out of vending machines, or whatever our parents made for us.

Mine gave me money. I spent said money.

I stayed a mean 120 lbs all through high school, and never even cracked 150 until I was 23 and discovered "protein."

The type of food you eat, methinks, is less important than the serving size.

Hell, if it wasn't for Cheese-Its in Spicy flavor, I'd have starved Junior year.
 
#61
#61
I dare you to make less sense. Like UTPJ I wasn't fat either and it wasn't because Happy Meals, Twinkies, Fruit Loops and Ding Dongs weren't available. (hell, there were even Pringles) If anything they pushed some sugary stuff (especially cereals) harder back then than they do now.

You dot understand. Unused Capital converts to fat unless distributed by the state. The proof is in the obesity stats of those on the dole vs those making their own way. Capital is like carbs - on roids.
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#62
#62
This constant blaming of capitalism would be funny if the one peddling it wasn't so serious. His argument summed up so well by BPV reads like a sketch from The Daily Show.
 
#63
#63
I ate McDonalds or Wendy's nearly every week, and for lunch, Red Barron frozen pizza, coke and chocolate chip cookies. My school didn't have a cafeteria, we ate out of vending machines, or whatever our parents made for us.

Mine gave me money. I spent said money.

I stayed a mean 120 lbs all through high school, and never even cracked 150 until I was 23 and discovered "protein."

The type of food you eat, methinks, is less important than the serving size.

Hell, if it wasn't for Cheese-Its in Spicy flavor, I'd have starved Junior year.

Agreed. Sane portions and staying active can do wonders even with less than ideal nutrition. For that matter if you're active enough you can eat a whole bunch of crap. (In HS I ate pretty much anything that I could grab but played sports all the time so never got fat...go figure. If I'd only known the Capitalists were out to get me...)

Then there's this;
Nutritionist Loses 27 Pounds on the Junk Food Diet
 
#64
#64
This constant blaming of capitalism would be funny if the one peddling it wasn't so serious. His argument summed up so well by BPV reads like a sketch from The Daily Show.

gibbs' ravings are also the epitome of hypocrisy, since he has admitted to doing quite well for himself as a result of his own bourgeois pursuit of capital.
 
#65
#65
You dot understand. Unused Capital converts to fat unless distributed by the state. The proof is in the obesity stats of those on the dole vs those making their own way. Capital is like carbs - on roids.
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Got it. So Gibb's economic glycemic index is all shot to hell, right?
 
#67
#67
If they take up two seats they should buy two tickets!


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Am I the only one who has noticed the the industrial sized back side on the First Lady. My wife says I'm mean. I ask how can you miss it?
 
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#69
#69
Agreed. Sane portions and staying active can do wonders even with less than ideal nutrition. For that matter if you're active enough you can eat a whole bunch of crap. (In HS I ate pretty much anything that I could grab but played sports all the time so never got fat...go figure. If I'd only known the Capitalists were out to get me...)

Then there's this;
Nutritionist Loses 27 Pounds on the Junk Food Diet

Documentary about a guy eating nothing but McDonald's for 30 days...and he looked and felt great (lost 8 lbs)!

Chazz Weaver Down Size Me
 

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