Is Phil Steele a Pac 10 homer?

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Jasongivm6

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Steele's TOUGHEST schedules:



1. USC
2. Stanford
3. Washington
4. UCLA
5. Oregon
6. Washington State
7. Notre Dame
8. Iowa ST
9. Tennessee
10. CAL
11. Arizona
12. . Oregon St
13. Colorado
14. Oklahoma
15. Michigan St.
16. Duke
17. Ohio St.
18. Northwestern
19. Baylor
20. Arizona State
 
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(Jasongivm6 @ Aug 9 said:
Steele's TOUGHEST schedules:
1. USC
2. Stanford
3. Washington
4. UCLA
5. Oregon
6. Washington State
7. Notre Dame
8. Iowa ST
9. Tennessee
10. CAL
11. Arizona
12. . Oregon St
13. Colorado
14. Oklahoma
15. Michigan St.
16. Duke
17. Ohio St.
18. Northwestern
19. Baylor
20. Arizona State
Again, enough with all the Phil Steele talk. We need a Sydnee Steele thread.
 
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(Jasongivm6 @ Aug 9 said:
Steele's TOUGHEST schedules:
1. USC
2. Stanford
3. Washington
4. UCLA
5. Oregon
6. Washington State
7. Notre Dame
8. Iowa ST
9. Tennessee
10. CAL
11. Arizona
12. . Oregon St
13. Colorado
14. Oklahoma
15. Michigan St.
16. Duke
17. Ohio St.
18. Northwestern
19. Baylor
20. Arizona State

Where is Lawgator when you need him?
 
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(hatvol96 @ Aug 9 said:
Again, enough with all the Phil Steele talk. We need a Sydnee Steele thread.
:clapping: i'm voting this as Hat's best post....good job!!!! :biggrin2:

and seriously, how is Florida not on this list, but Duke is? does anyone care about Duke football?
 
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If ND's schedule is anything like it was last year, it is nowhere near being in the top 50 toughest schedules. Also there is no way a Pac or Big 12 team should be ranked ahead of UT or Florida. This list will be fun for a retrospective laugh come January when it will be clearly disproven.
 
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(kptvol @ Aug 9 said:
If ND's schedule is anything like it was last year, it is nowhere near being in the top 50 toughest schedules. Also there is no way a Pac or Big 12 team should be ranked ahead of UT or Florida. This list will be fun for a retrospective laugh come January when it will be clearly disproven.


I think the laugh will be on you when Steele is closer to correct than you. :)
 
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(VolinArizona @ Aug 9 said:
I think the laugh will be on you when Steele is closer to correct than you. :)

I think that is improbable. What is even less likely is that anyone remembers this in 5 months. Thus no laugh will be on me.
 
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I pulled up all the Pac-10 schedules... So remember, there is also a 9 game round-robin schedule, so every team will play every other one. You can add Oregon, Arizona State, USC, California and UCLA to every schedule.

Arizona
vs Brigham Young
at Louisiana State
vs Stephen F. Austin

Arizona State
vs Northern Arizona
vs Nevada
at Colorado

California
at Tennessee
vs Minnesota

vs Portland State

Oregon
at Fresno State
vs Oklahoma
Portland State

Oregon State
vs Eastern Washington
at Boise State
vs Idaho
at Hawaii

Stanford
at San Jose State
vs Navy
at Notre Dame


UCLA
vs Utah
vs Rice
at Notre Dame

USC
at Arkansas
vs Nebraska
vs Notre Dame


Washington
vs San Jose State
at Oklahoma
vs Fresno State


Washington State
at Auburn
vs Idaho
vs Baylor

All things considered, some pretty damn tough schedules.
 
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And before this thread gets hit with a barrage of people saying "teh pack-ten sux" and then providing no evidence, I don't necesarily agree that the conference has the TOUGHEST schedules in the country. I'm just saying they are all far from weak.
 
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Arizona and Arizona State don't look to be seeing that many great teams. Neither does Oregon State. I'd gladly trade UT's schedule for one of these. USC, Oregon, and Cal seem to have more legitimate challenges. I just refuse to believe that the top 5 toughest schedules 1) do not include a single SEC school and 2) are all from the Pac 10. Florida isn't even on there? They must be playing 8 teams that went bowling last winter.
 
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On average, each of them face about 1 tough OOC opponent. About right, I guess.
 
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(kptvol @ Aug 9 said:
Arizona and Arizona State don't look to be seeing that many great teams. Neither does Oregon State. I'd gladly trade UT's schedule for one of these. USC, Oregon, and Cal seem to have more legitimate challenges. I just refuse to believe that the top 5 toughest schedules 1) do not include a single SEC school and 2) are all from the Pac 10. Florida isn't even on there? They must be playing 8 teams that went bowling last winter.
I will give you ASU and OSU, their schedules are not THAT good. Boise State might still challenge, though Hawkins will be gone... We'll see. And if Nevada carries a big offense over, they could suprise as well. But you're calling out the Wildcats schedule?! Come on, man! AT LSU in what will surely be a night game, then vs. Brigham Young who is vying to hold the title best non-BCS team in the country, a team that could have wiped the floor with us last season. That in addition to your Pac-10 games that I mentioned previously. Tough times.
 
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(milohimself @ Aug 9 said:
And before this thread gets hit with a barrage of people saying "teh pack-ten sux" and then providing no evidence, I don't necesarily agree that the conference has the TOUGHEST schedules in the country. I'm just saying they are all far from weak.


So do think that the Pac 10 has the 5 toughest schedules in the country? I notice you mentioned only the OOC schedule. Do you think they have the top 5 toughest OVERALL schedules in the country?


Because Steele also said he thought the top 5 conferences were

1. SEC
2. Big 12
3. Big 10
4. ACC
5. Pac 10

Do you think the Pac 10 playing the SEC helps their SOS and hurts the SEC's SOS?
 
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(milohimself @ Aug 9 said:
I will give you ASU and OSU, their schedules are not THAT good. Boise State might still challenge, though Hawkins will be gone... We'll see. And if Nevada carries a big offense over, they could suprise as well. But you're calling out the Wildcats schedule?! Come on, man! AT LSU in what will surely be a night game, then vs. Brigham Young who is vying to hold the title best non-BCS team in the country, a team that could have wiped the floor with us last season. That in addition to your Pac-10 games that I mentioned previously. Tough times.

BYWho?
 
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(milohimself @ Aug 9 said:
I pulled up all the Pac-10 schedules... So remember, there is also a 9 game round-robin schedule, so every team will play every other one. You can add Oregon, Arizona State, USC, California and UCLA to every schedule.

Arizona
vs Brigham Young
at Louisiana State
vs Stephen F. Austin

Arizona State
vs Northern Arizona
vs Nevada
at Colorado

California
at Tennessee
vs Minnesota

vs Portland State

Oregon
at Fresno State
vs Oklahoma
Portland State

Oregon State
vs Eastern Washington
at Boise State
vs Idaho
at Hawaii

Stanford
at San Jose State
vs Navy
at Notre Dame


UCLA
vs Utah
vs Rice
at Notre Dame

USC
at Arkansas
vs Nebraska
vs Notre Dame


Washington
vs San Jose State
at Oklahoma
vs Fresno State


Washington State
at Auburn
vs Idaho
vs Baylor

All things considered, some pretty damn tough schedules.
Not too shabby really...now if they could just do something about the conference schedule??? :biggrin2: JK milo....i think the Pac 10 has come along pretty good the last couple of years....if only they could play defense consistently...
 
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(milohimself @ Aug 9 said:
I will give you ASU and OSU, their schedules are not THAT good. Boise State might still challenge, though Hawkins will be gone... We'll see. And if Nevada carries a big offense over, they could suprise as well. But you're calling out the Wildcats schedule?! Come on, man! AT LSU in what will surely be a night game, then vs. Brigham Young who is vying to hold the title best non-BCS team in the country, a team that could have wiped the floor with us last season. That in addition to your Pac-10 games that I mentioned previously. Tough times.
BYU? Milo, have you suffered a serious head injury recently? They will be lucky to finish third in their half-a$$ conference.
 
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(Jasongivm6 @ Aug 9 said:
So do think that the Pac 10 has the 5 toughest schedules in the country? I notice you mentioned only the OOC schedule. Do you think they have the top 5 toughest OVERALL schedules in the country?
Because Steele also said he thought the top 5 conferences were

1. SEC
2. Big 12
3. Big 10
4. ACC
5. Pac 10

Do you think the Pac 10 playing the SEC helps their SOS and hurts the SEC's SOS?
I haven't looked into national schedules enough to determine whether or not the Pac would constitute the top 5 toughest. I'd probably disagree with him, but I don't know. I think the new round-robin schedule has a lot to do with it. Nine conference games for everybody in the BCS league with the most parity probably affected the decision.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Aug 9 said:
BYU? Milo, have you suffered a serious head injury recently? They will be lucky to finish third in their half-a$$ conference.
I said vying, not are... Hell, they could flop. That's why they play the games. But even you know BYU has the capability to go plenty far... Probably not BCS-far, but far.
 
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(milohimself @ Aug 9 said:
I said vying, not are... Hell, they could flop. That's why they play the games. But even you know BYU has the capability to go plenty far... Probably not BCS-far, but far.
No, they don't. They'd go 4-8 if they had to play in a real conference.
 
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:shakehead: Whatever, this thread was over schedule strength, not the football aptitude of the stormin' Mormons.
 
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(milohimself @ Aug 9 said:
:shakehead: Whatever, this thread was over schedule strength, not the football aptitude of the stormin' Mormons.
Exactly, and having BYU on your schedule means you have at least one easy nonconference game.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Aug 9 said:
Exactly, and having BYU on your schedule means you have at least one easy nonconference game.
BURN!!!!
 

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