Is Romney's religion an issue?

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nbakerld said:
Does it matter to you?

No

Does it matter in the race for the GOP nomination?

It shouldn't, but it does. The reasoning is many politicians use their religion to justify policy and actions. Ron Paul's religion (Christianity) does not matter to me, because it doesn't influence his politics. Perry's religion (Christianity) does matter to me, because he flaunts it and acts on it.

Would it matter in the general if he were the nominee?

I assume the "he" is Romney. It will matter to a lot of America. It doesn't matter to me. Romney has proven that he's willing to go against his religious ideals to satisfy his base (abortion, gay marriage).
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Isn't Paul's religion a big factor in his opposition to abortion?

Check this article about how a lot of GOPers see the religious beliefs of Romney, et al:

The Religion Card Is Turned Face Up by Patrick J. Buchanan
 
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lawgator1 said:
I ask that question in several contexts.


Does it matter to you?

No religion is not even in my radar anymore with social issues not far behind. We as a society have allowed politicians to wield those two as weapons as they do the real damage for far, far too long. It's his unpredictability (flip flopping)that scares me...

Does it matter in the race for the GOP nomination?

To some degree it does. Especially to the Evangelicals. They really have a hard on against Mormons. And as an Evangelical myself, for the life of me I can't figure out why. But that's as far as I go, because see above

Would it matter in the general if he were the nominee?

I would be bummed for sure, but no, I would still vote for him. At this point even Jimmy Carter would be a better option than Obama, hats off to Obama for such an accomplishment. .
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Kind of a flop back at you LG: how would you feel if Hilary forced a primary? Would you think she was the better option?
 
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KiffinKiller said:
All religions have their 'cultish' charachteristics.
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Somewhat true by the classic definition of a "cult". For that matter, believers in evolution follow a "cult". Secular humanists have "cultish" characteristics.

But for the purpose of discussing Mormonism, maybe we limit it to things like the church pulling wives and children from a home while the husband is at work because he converted to another religion... or losing businesses and inheritance for the same reason. I would call their efforts to convince women to share a husband... a little cultish.

I find their secret rituals, celestial marriages, and magic underwear kind of "cult" like. I would certainly call their promise that Temple Mormons become gods of their own planets "cultish" along with their notion of a goddess bride who conceives and births souls to occupy bodies.

I am not as clear on the particulars but find their preoccupation with ancestories creepy too. They apparently have ceremonies where they can baptize their dead ancestors into Mormonism and improve their fate in the afterlife.

The issues that would be of more concern with Romney is the historic obedience of Mormons to the governing body in SLC. Their prophets have told them what to believe about numerous issues that would have a direct bearing on philosophy and policy.
 
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I don't know about using the word "cult". All religions have absurd beliefs. Mormons just seem to have proportionately more. Like somebody said once, whatever probability you asign to Christianity being true, Mormonism has got to be even lower because it is just Christianity plus some more really stupid ideas.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I ask that question in several contexts.


Does it matter to you?

Does it matter in the race for the GOP nomination?

Would it matter in the general if he were the nominee?
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Not a bit, I could vote for a Protestant, Muslim, Catholic, Mormon, Buddhist, Hindu, or Atheist. Where they stand on the issues that I care about counts more that their religion too me. I know a lot of people care, but I do not trust them that much anyway when the trumpet their religion, so I do not care all that much.
 
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rjd970 said:
I don't know about using the word "cult". All religions have absurd beliefs. Mormons just seem to have proportionately more. Like somebody said once, whatever probability you asign to Christianity being true, Mormonism has got to be even lower because it is just Christianity plus some more really stupid ideas.
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Where does that put scientology on the list of ridiculous?
 
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rjd970 said:
I don't know about using the word "cult". All religions have absurd beliefs. Mormons just seem to have proportionately more. Like somebody said once, whatever probability you asign to Christianity being true, Mormonism has got to be even lower because it is just Christianity plus some more really stupid ideas.
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You forgot to include "imo"...

I'm sure it was just an oversight. :)
 
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rjd970 said:
I don't know about using the word "cult". All religions have absurd beliefs. Mormons just seem to have proportionately more. Like somebody said once, whatever probability you asign to Christianity being true, Mormonism has got to be even lower because it is just Christianity plus some more really stupid ideas.
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me thinks you need to read the kingdom of mathias
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sjt18 said:
Somewhat true by the classic definition of a "cult". For that matter, believers in evolution follow a "cult". Secular humanists have "cultish" characteristics.

But for the purpose of discussing Mormonism, maybe we limit it to things like the church pulling wives and children from a home while the husband is at work because he converted to another religion... or losing businesses and inheritance for the same reason. I would call their efforts to convince women to share a husband... a little cultish.

I find their secret rituals, celestial marriages, and magic underwear kind of "cult" like. I would certainly call their promise that Temple Mormons become gods of their own planets "cultish" along with their notion of a goddess bride who conceives and births souls to occupy bodies.

I am not as clear on the particulars but find their preoccupation with ancestories creepy too. They apparently have ceremonies where they can baptize their dead ancestors into Mormonism and improve their fate in the afterlife.

The issues that would be of more concern with Romney is the historic obedience of Mormons to the governing body in SLC. Their prophets have told them what to believe about numerous issues that would have a direct bearing on philosophy and policy.
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Ya. I was in no way defending the book of mormon or te church of latter day saints or w/e they call it. I was just putting a little perspective on the 'cult' word.

If we're going to say that mormonism is less believable than most other christian religions - then yes, i agree. Don't they believe Jesus has some connection in mid-america. I know I joke about them believing Jesus was born in Kansas City...
 
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KiffinKiller said:
Ya. I was in no way defending the book of mormon or te church of latter day saints or w/e they call it. I was just putting a little perspective on the 'cult' word.

If we're going to say that mormonism is less believable than most other christian religions - then yes, i agree. Don't they believe Jesus has some connection in mid-america. I know I joke about them believing Jesus was born in Kansas City...
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your not far off, like I said.....read the kingdom of mathias, great perspective of relifion at the time......especially the mormon movement
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Of course it matters. Republicans are all wasps and discriminate against everyone else!

That's obviously why perry is running away with the nomination
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rjd970 said:
I don't know about using the word "cult". All religions have absurd beliefs. Mormons just seem to have proportionately more. Like somebody said once, whatever probability you asign to Christianity being true, Mormonism has got to be even lower because it is just Christianity plus some more really stupid ideas.
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Your attempt to equate Christianity with Mormonism is ignorant and your comments are borderline offensive.
 
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