Is Saban the best ever?

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Was watching Finebaum today and they were comparing him and Bear Bryant, it was pretty interesting listening to Greg McElroy talk about only knowing Bama football for the last 10 years and not growing up a Bama fan. He was talking about the Bear is a larger than life figure in Gumpland but says he thinks Saban with what he did at LSU and Bama is the best ever.

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Yes. Bear Bryant is the reason we have scholarship restrictions. There would be enough to field 2 rosters. And some of those championships he received were voted that way when another team with equal record got voted #2. Now with Sabans tenure #2 & #1 squared off on field erasing doubt.
 
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It is funny listening to callers today out of the first 10 callers most saying roll tide and and not one person lives in Alabama (3 from Chattanooga). damn front runners
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Yes. Bear Bryant is the reason we have scholarship restrictions. There would be enough to field 2 rosters. And some of those championships he received were voted that way when another team with equal record got voted #2. Now with Sabans tenure #2 & #1 squared off on field erasing doubt.
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Some of you folks should REALLY do a little research before making questionable statements because you hate Bama....

Just check out what Johnny Majors did at Pittsburgh in his FIRST recruiting class.....in his own words!

Wiedmer: Ex-Vols coach Johnny Majors still a historic presence | Times Free Press

You couldn't get away with it today. A recruiting class of 73? Are you trying to build a college football team or a marching band?

But 1973 wasn't 2011. Johnny Majors was considering leaving Iowa State for Pittsburgh, a nondescript program swallowed whole by the giant shadow of Penn State.

Knowing the Panthers, who were 1-10 in 1972, needed a rapid and massive injection of talent, Majors told the Pitt administration he'd take the job if he could sign 50 kids a year for four years.

They agreed and Majors was on his way. But then he read something in the paper about the NCAA discussing capping signing classes at 30 with a maximum of 95.

"I was always good at math," Majors, now 77, said following his talk to the Chattanooga Area Historical Association at the downtown library Monday night.

"I went back to the administration and told them I needed to sign more that first year. Maybe 75 or 80. They gave me the approval."

And so it was that Majors' first Pitt signing class resembled Noah's ark, filled with at least two of everything and one very special running back from Aliquippa, Pa., named Tony Dorsett. Only he wasn't called Dor-SETT in those days; it rhymed with "corset."

It was also the end of such copious recruiting classes. The NCAA began to limit them by both the year and total.

"Some say they called it the Majors Rule," the former University of Tennessee star player and head coach said with a grin. "But that signing class built the foundation for a national championship team."
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Some of you folks should REALLY do a little research before making questionable statements because you hate Bama....

Just check out what Johnny Majors did at Pittsburgh in his FIRST recruiting class.....in his own words!

Wiedmer: Ex-Vols coach Johnny Majors still a historic presence | Times Free Press

You couldn't get away with it today. A recruiting class of 73? Are you trying to build a college football team or a marching band?

But 1973 wasn't 2011. Johnny Majors was considering leaving Iowa State for Pittsburgh, a nondescript program swallowed whole by the giant shadow of Penn State.

Knowing the Panthers, who were 1-10 in 1972, needed a rapid and massive injection of talent, Majors told the Pitt administration he'd take the job if he could sign 50 kids a year for four years.

They agreed and Majors was on his way. But then he read something in the paper about the NCAA discussing capping signing classes at 30 with a maximum of 95.

"I was always good at math," Majors, now 77, said following his talk to the Chattanooga Area Historical Association at the downtown library Monday night.

"I went back to the administration and told them I needed to sign more that first year. Maybe 75 or 80. They gave me the approval."

And so it was that Majors' first Pitt signing class resembled Noah's ark, filled with at least two of everything and one very special running back from Aliquippa, Pa., named Tony Dorsett. Only he wasn't called Dor-SETT in those days; it rhymed with "corset."

It was also the end of such copious recruiting classes. The NCAA began to limit them by both the year and total.

"Some say they called it the Majors Rule," the former University of Tennessee star player and head coach said with a grin. "But that signing class built the foundation for a national championship team."
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Ive heard stories that Bryant would offer kids scholarships just so they wouldn't play for Auburn or Tennessee. Such a different time.... I can't imagine how much kids were getting paid to go to certain schools. Stupid SMU just got greedy and gloated that they were paying
 
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It's probably unfair to compare eras.

But there is much greater parity in college football today. The fact that Saban keeps winning in the current environment is remarkable. I would say that he's the greatest of all-time. It's hard to argue otherwise.
 
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He's kind of a vanilla Xs & Os guy. Nothing he does is particularly innovative or progressive in the game.

He recruits the best which is the first step of college football and then coaches sound fundamental football.

You can't argue with results. He's the best.
 
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bamawriter said:
It's probably unfair to compare eras.

But there is much greater parity in college football today. The fact that Saban keeps winning in the current environment is remarkable. I would say that he's the greatest of all-time. It's hard to argue otherwise.
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Basically this. Compare Saban to his peers and compare that to other greats and the disparity with their peers.
 
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I want Tennessee to send Saban out at Bama like Majors did the Bear and Fulmer did Spurrier..... Jones beats Saban this year and he retires.... Last game vsTennessee was an L
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
He's kind of a vanilla Xs & Os guy. Nothing he does is particularly innovative or progressive in the game.

He recruits the best which is the first step of college football and then coaches sound fundamental football.

You can't argue with results. He's the best.
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He's a defensive genius.
 
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Saban looked the most relaxed and personable I have seen him after this game. I believe his goal is to finish ahead of Bear atp. Sadly that means another couple of years. His greatest feat aside from recruiting has been his ability to deal with the constant coaching and player turnover. Definately a master of team dynamics.
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Some of you folks should REALLY do a little research before making questionable statements because you hate Bama....

Just check out what Johnny Majors did at Pittsburgh in his FIRST recruiting class.....in his own words!

Wiedmer: Ex-Vols coach Johnny Majors still a historic presence | Times Free Press

You couldn't get away with it today. A recruiting class of 73? Are you trying to build a college football team or a marching band?

But 1973 wasn't 2011. Johnny Majors was considering leaving Iowa State for Pittsburgh, a nondescript program swallowed whole by the giant shadow of Penn State.

Knowing the Panthers, who were 1-10 in 1972, needed a rapid and massive injection of talent, Majors told the Pitt administration he'd take the job if he could sign 50 kids a year for four years.

They agreed and Majors was on his way. But then he read something in the paper about the NCAA discussing capping signing classes at 30 with a maximum of 95.

"I was always good at math," Majors, now 77, said following his talk to the Chattanooga Area Historical Association at the downtown library Monday night.

"I went back to the administration and told them I needed to sign more that first year. Maybe 75 or 80. They gave me the approval."

And so it was that Majors' first Pitt signing class resembled Noah's ark, filled with at least two of everything and one very special running back from Aliquippa, Pa., named Tony Dorsett. Only he wasn't called Dor-SETT in those days; it rhymed with "corset."

It was also the end of such copious recruiting classes. The NCAA began to limit them by both the year and total.

"Some say they called it the Majors Rule," the former University of Tennessee star player and head coach said with a grin. "But that signing class built the foundation for a national championship team."
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How does this dispute anything I typed. Imagine with no scholarship count restrictions Saban would get a crazy amount of top 300 players. Bear got that opportunity. Saying Majors signed 70+ plus players doesn't mean they were all elite. Yes he benefited by the Bear model. I stand by my statement. Saban is better than Bryant. Several times they were VOTED the champs too when SABANS had to win his on the field. Often We have no idea if the runner ups could beat Bama in those days as they didnt get the opportunity.
 
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