Is The 1/6 Commission Coming?

It’s a troll account. He/she just wants attention from whoever will give it to them.

Attention, you're here and there acting like you know something and instead of admitting you know jack **** and jack left town... you just keep doubling down on stupid. You are mentality ill. You went on a rant about Trumpism and masks, you would have to have the IQ of a grape to think that stupid face diaper was going to save you.

You're whole rant on "Trumpism" is a huge troll besides being just idiotic in nature.

Did you serious think that a face diaper was going to save you? Or you're so mentality ill that you thought well, let's call it "Trumpism" for fun?

Trolling is what you are doing, talking as if you know something than when you are called out on your Idiocracy you hide like a mentality ill purple hair freak.

whoever will give it to them

Nobody is forcing you to post your Idiocracy and your mental illness. You are providing the forum with enough to know you are bat **** crazy, I'm certainly not causing that.
 
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Sure. I think it’s a bad faith line of discussion, but I’ll answer in good faith.

The tl;dr is that whether or not a set of actions meets the common definition of a word and whether it meets a statutory definition are not the same question.

Criminal statutes describe an act or course of conduct. Those descriptions define the crime. They can be broken down into elements that have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Each of the criminal definitions you mentioned involve elements that can’t be proven or there are constitutional/procedural barriers.

Insurrection and rebellion, 18 U.S.C. 2383: Trump didn’t personally engage in violence and there are concerns with charging him under a theory of incitement that is based on political speech, which is at the core of the 1st Amendment.

Treason 18 U.S.C. 2381: I don’t think we need a lot of discussion about why the statutory elements aren’t met.

Seditious Conspiracy 18 U.S.C. 2384: Looks like this is basically the obstruction charge with the additional element of “by force.” See insurrection, above.

How the term insurrection is used in conversation need not conform to such a precise definition because a conversation is different from the government putting someone in jail. Even if we assumed some counter-factual reality wherein all conversations had to be statutorily precise, people have been charged, tried, and convicted by an impartial jury for seditious conspiracy related to their actions on January 6. So wouldn’t that alleviate this particular concern with people calling January 6 an insurrection?

Examples:
1. A word like “disability” may be used by a mental health provider to describe someone’s intellectual functioning, but that doesn’t mean the person would necessarily be found “disabled” by a particular government agency. How the word is defined by SSA or the VA differs from how it is defined in the DSM and/or how it is used in the profession, and those uses may differ from use of the word in common speech.

2. Trump was found liable for acts that, as we discuss them in daily conversation, would be described as rape, but are legally defined as “only” sexual battery by the state of New York.
Insurrection is a crime and the word use should be guarded to not brand all present as insurrectionists.

An example would be like certain members of a football coaching staff that were found to have violated NCAA rules. It is wrong to label any new coaches or coaches that did not participate in the sanctions as "cheaters". That is why each individual coach involved in the incident would be identified for them to be disciplined properly and not use a broad brush for painting the entire program.
 
Been calling me LG for about 2 weeks

I'm not so sure, but he's a dumbass regardless

14 year old account with 10,000 posts and I stopped counting after about 2600 (>25%) posts in this forum just since late May 2024.
Bumping posts from 4 year old threads that the account never posted in.
New-ish to this sub-forum but misnaming people after familiar posters as a form of insult.

Not conclusive, but pretty good evidence of somebody trolling on an alt.
Would be more obvious if there weren’t a few folks who legitimately post in that style, but during a recent exchange with @NashVol11 it was a little too obvious that he was just trying to push buttons to keep him engaged.

There were several people who went off the deep end after the 2020 election and quit posting in the PF. It’s probably one of those people who didn’t want the shame to follow them back so they necro’d an old alt to repeat the cycle with a clean slate.
 
Insurrection is a crime and the word use should be guarded to not brand all present as insurrectionists.

An example would be like certain members of a football coaching staff that were found to have violated NCAA rules. It is wrong to label any new coaches or coaches that did not participate in the sanctions as "cheaters". That is why each individual coach involved in the incident would be identified for them to be disciplined properly and not use a broad brush for painting the entire program.
Criminal punishments have been handed out on a case by case basis. Social scorn doesn’t need to be so discerning. Proper use of the English language is sufficient.

When Trump calls Harris “mentally disabled” is he relying on one of the versions of the DSM, 42 U.S.C. 423(d), or 38 USC 4211?
 
Criminal punishments have been handed out on a case by case basis. Social scorn doesn’t need to be so discerning. Proper use of the English language is sufficient.

When Trump calls Harris “mentally disabled” is he relying on one of the versions of the DSM, 42 U.S.C. 423(d), or 38 USC 4211?
Agree on the bold with riot being the proper term to use IMO. Unsure on the Trump campaign rhetoric question.
 
14 year old account with 10,000 posts and I stopped counting after about 2600 (>25%) posts in this forum just since late May 2024.
Bumping posts from 4 year old threads that the account never posted in.
New-ish to this sub-forum but misnaming people after familiar posters as a form of insult.

Not conclusive, but pretty good evidence of somebody trolling on an alt.
Would be more obvious if there weren’t a few folks who legitimately post in that style, but during a recent exchange with @NashVol11 it was a little too obvious that he was just trying to push buttons to keep him engaged.

There were several people who went off the deep end after the 2020 election and quit posting in the PF. It’s probably one of those people who didn’t want the shame to follow them back so they necro’d an old alt to repeat the cycle with a clean slate.

Nobody is trolling just stating the obvious. You are getting mad, but you shouldn't be mad at me. You bring weak ass **** in here and I called it out.

There were several people who went off the deep end after the 2020 election and quit posting in the PF. It’s probably one of those people who didn’t want the shame to follow them back so they necro’d an old alt to repeat the cycle with a clean slate.

You're a lunatic, you went off the deep end during the stupid covid stuff and are continuously going off the deep end. I didn't take anything out of context, you want me to post more of your lunatic stuff? Oh there are plenty of stuff, its not about being wrong. You went off the deep end with anti-masking, anti-vaccine, Trumpism, etc. Nobody is forcing you to post your absolute nutjob comments out here, getting mad at me is not going to change that.

The stuff you have been promoting is tinfoil hat crap and that comes from someone that doesn't mind hearing someone's theory. That is your fault, regardless if you're mentality ill.
 
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Agree on the bold with riot being the proper term to use IMO. Unsure on the Trump campaign rhetoric question.
Sure. A riot where many of the people involved compared it to the American revolution or civil war, tried to use violence to keep the loser of the election in power, chanted about hanging the Vice President when he failed to deliver on their demands, and fought with police to obstruct the transfer of power.

The English language has a word for that.
 
Sure. A riot where many of the people involved compared it to the American revolution or civil war, tried to use violence to keep the loser of the election in power, chanted about hanging the Vice President when he failed to deliver on their demands, and fought with police to obstruct the transfer of power.

The English language has a word for that.

Its too bad as if you were getting what you want... it would have been a mostly peaceful riot.

The English language has a word for that.

Yes, its called a setup for most of the people that were there. Which is why Congress has been destroying evidence. DOJ/FBI are now trying to hide their involvement by putting classifications on evidence of their wrongdoing. Theses were all the same agencies that were part of the Russia Gate scam you were promoting.

You want me to post all your tinfoil crap on Russia Gate as well?
 
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After 4 years, Democrats still stonewalling to present the evidence of what happened.
Why do they keep hiding the real truth that FBI & Antifa was involved in this chaos?
 
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After 4 years, Democrats still stonewalling to present the evidence of what happened.
Why do they keep hiding the real truth that FBI & Antifa was involved in this chaos?

Everyone knows what really happened that day. It's only separated by who will say it and who is too scared to say it.
 
My goodness Liz. Speaking to a witness and having her lie to Congress during your circus. Who could forget the Trump lunge from the back seat for the steering wheel.

 
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Texts Show Cassidy Hutchinson Went Around Her Own Lawyer To Help Liz Cheney​


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The Jan. 6 Committee’s key witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, went behind her own lawyer’s back to help former Republican Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney with her investigation into the Capitol riot, according to messages obtained by the Daily Caller.


The messages were sent from Hutchinson to Alyssa Farah Griffin, a former Pentagon press secretary during the Trump administration. In the messages, Hutchinson asks if the committee is going to make her testify live, and asks Farah to relay the plans of her attorney, Stefan Passantino, to Cheney and the Jan. 6 Committee.

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From the article:

“Democrats have now made it a tradition to object to electors, certain slates of electors, and they have [done so] every single time a Republican president has won in the last quarter-century,” Johnson told the New York Post. “They have objected for often ridiculous reasons, and I expect that many of them would object when Trump wins, for no reason other than they just don’t like him, and that’s not the way the system works."

Some Democrats have already been laying the groundwork for some of these "objections," such as Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), who has previously suggested that Congress will have to stop him from becoming president if he is elected. He told reporters earlier in October he would accept the results if Trump "won a free, fair and honest election, then we would obviously accept it,” however, he “definitely” did not think that would be the case.


 
Shouldn't have read this before bed it's made my blood pressure jump.



According to trial evidence and police body-worn camera footage, as the officers struggled with the group of rioters, a male individual, later identified as Mark Middleton, pushed against the barricades and the police line with his body. Officers are heard on body-worn camera footage repeatedly ordering Mark Middleton and others to “Get back!” In response, Mark Middleton is heard yelling “f— you!” as he continued to push against the police barricades. Evidence showed that Mark Middleton resisted MPD officers, grabbed onto an MPD officer’s left hand or wrist, and pulled the officer forward towards the crowd.

At the same time, a female individual, later identified as Jalise Middleton, is seen on body-worn camera footage repeatedly grabbing and striking the same officer over the barricade with her hand. Another officer then approached to assist, and Jalise Middleton struck that officer as well. Video footage shows that the couple continued to grapple with and strike at the officers, and attempt to pull an officer into the crowd, as various flags were jabbed toward the officers’ faces.
 

According to trial evidence and police body-worn camera footage, as the officers struggled with the group of rioters, a male individual, later identified as Mark Middleton, pushed against the barricades and the police line with his body. Officers are heard on body-worn camera footage repeatedly ordering Mark Middleton and others to “Get back!” In response, Mark Middleton is heard yelling “f— you!” as he continued to push against the police barricades. Evidence showed that Mark Middleton resisted MPD officers, grabbed onto an MPD officer’s left hand or wrist, and pulled the officer forward towards the crowd.

At the same time, a female individual, later identified as Jalise Middleton, is seen on body-worn camera footage repeatedly grabbing and striking the same officer over the barricade with her hand. Another officer then approached to assist, and Jalise Middleton struck that officer as well. Video footage shows that the couple continued to grapple with and strike at the officers, and attempt to pull an officer into the crowd, as various flags were jabbed toward the officers’ faces.
Meh, hopefully full pardons coming on January 20th.
 
The IG has already said that the govt had paid informants and agents in the crowd. How many? The fbi refused under oath to say their agents and informants did nothing illegal. How much did they do to incite? Who was the director on the scaffold urging people on ? Who moved the barricades and restricted signs before the crowd arrived? The bomber caught on camera on the phone the night before? Phone data for the call was corrupted and useless. Apparently kamala was led right past the bomb. How did the s.s miss it laying beside the bench. It was the distraction to get the barricades and restricted area signs removed. And the man telling people on 1/5 to go into the building tomorrow? The Detroit field office director who led the Gretchen Whitmer plot that had one of the informants leading the training, was promoted to the d.c. office. Was this person also on 1/6 case? Their tactics are very shady if not entrapment. The 2017 case of Jerry Drake Varnell

Family: FBI knew Oklahoma bomb plot suspect is schizophrenic​

August 17, 2017 / 1:40 PM EDT / CBS/AP
OKLAHOMA CITY -- The family of a man accused of attempting to detonate what he believed was an explosives-laden van outside an Oklahoma bank says he is a paranoid schizophrenic and that the FBI knew it.
Clifford and Melonie Varnell, of Sayre, Oklahoma, issued a statement late Tuesday that questions the tactics undercover FBI agents used to arrest 23-year-old Jerry Drake Varnell. He was taken into custody early Saturday for the alleged plot to detonate a vehicle bomb in an alley adjacent to BancFirst in downtown Oklahoma City.
Varnell, who lives with his mother and stepfather in Sayre, about 130 miles west of Oklahoma City, is jobless due to his schizophrenia and does not have the resources to carry out such an act alone, according to the family's statement.

"The FBI came and picked him up from our home, they gave him a vehicle, gave him a fake bomb, and every means to make this happen," the statement said, adding that authorities "should not have aided and abetted a paranoid schizophrenic to commit this act."
 

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