Is the best of Bruce yet to come?

#26
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Manvol said:
Oh good grief, my apologies my claim should have been "a lot of great coaches", there is that better for you? Some of you really need to get a life when you are arguing samantics, grammer, and what ever else little thing you can nit pick. I hope my punctuation and grammer is ok. I didnt check it.
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Bruce has had a lot of regular season success and has certainly energized the program. No need to fabricate stuff.
 
#28
#28
i don't think comparing Tennessee to programs like Kansas and UNC is very relevant.

But what about Coach K at Duke? Pearl's first 5 years have been a lot more successful than Coach K's were at Duke. Hopefully Pearl will be as successful in his 6th year
 
#29
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golfballs03 said:
i don't think comparing Tennessee to programs like Kansas and UNC is very relevant.

But what about Coach K at Duke? Pearl's first 5 years have been a lot more successful than Coach K's were at Duke. Hopefully Pearl will be as successful in his 6th year
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Who compared UT to Kansas and UNC?
 
#30
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VolDad said:
Bruce has had a lot of regular season success and has certainly energized the program. No need to fabricate stuff.
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No ones fabricating anything. It's an opinion and it's my opinion so get over your self.
 
#33
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Manvol said:
No ones fabricating anything. It's an opinion and it's my opinion so get over your self.
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BS: IMO, in an attempt to discount his post season failures and group him with great coaches you made a statement of fact that you said was backed up by research. A statement that was proven wrong. So now you have back peddled twice. First claiming it was just semantics, and now claiming it was an opinion.

Don’t say stupid stuff then get surprised when you are called on it.
 
#36
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VolDad said:
Slow night. SECT and Selection Sunday is still a few days away. What else do you want to talk about?
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I don't mind healthy discussion, but the fact that these kinds of threads get brought up twice every week is rather annoying. Not to mention the fact that the same people, on both sides, always argue with the same points. It gets boring after a while.
 
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Sudeepvol said:
I don't mind healthy discussion, but the fact that these kinds of threads get brought up twice every week is rather annoying. Not to mention the fact that the same people, on both sides, always argue with the same points. It gets boring after a while.
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so are you here to break it up? :peace2:
 
#38
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VolDad said:
You sure about that?
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It took Roy Williams maaaaaamy years to ge a title, same with boeheim and Calhoun. Calapari still hasn't won a title. Coach K was the coach at duke when they were god awful. U never judge a coach at his main job until at least 7-10 years. That's what it takes to develop recruting lines and to establish your system. He will bring titles here sooner than later
 
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Sudeepvol said:
I don't mind healthy discussion, but the fact that these kinds of threads get brought up twice every week is rather annoying. Not to mention the fact that the same people, on both sides, always argue with the same points. It gets boring after a while.
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I guess we could make up stats about a group of coaches and when those stats are proven wrong, change the group of coaches. :)
 
#41
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volmancagle17 said:
It took Roy Williams maaaaaamy years to ge a title, same with boeheim and Calhoun. Calapari still hasn't won a title. Coach K was the coach at duke when they were god awful. U never judge a coach at his main job until at least 7-10 years. That's what it takes to develop recruting lines and to establish your system. He will bring titles here sooner than later
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So I guess that you don't count Regional Championships as Titles?

How many years did it take them to advance past the Sweet 16?
 
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#42
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volmancagle17 said:
It took Roy Williams maaaaaamy years to ge a title, same with boeheim and Calhoun. Calapari still hasn't won a title. Coach K was the coach at duke when they were god awful. U never judge a coach at his main job until at least 7-10 years. That's what it takes to develop recruting lines and to establish your system. He will bring titles here sooner than later
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Yes and no. If you can see signs of future success in a coach's first few years, then sure, give him more time. Mark Fox is an example of a coach who will be judged by his seasons in year 4-5 and beyond. But as SGM pointed out, you don't give guys like Zook and Shula more time. You just can't wait 7-10 years down the road to make a decision. Your program can seriously fall off by then.

And another point can be made about rebuilding vs taking over a program at the top. So, this 7-10 year rule isn't really one.
 
#44
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As a fan with a fairly lukewarm opinion of Pearl, I will admit that the job he has done (thus far) in the second half of the season is impressive. I really felt that we would implode after the New Year's disaster...but beating Kansas and Kentucky with a team that lacks T Smith and requires Lil' Stevie and Woolridge to log minutes scores some major points with me. The play of both Maze and Goins, JP's ability to step up in big games, Cam Tatum making strides, and Chism's solid play down the stretch seem evident of good team leadership, if nothing else. I am also impressed by our ability to "change form," and play a slower, controlled-possession game when it became necessary.

Nobody can slight Bruce's ability to rally support and excitement, and I doubt that many can muster a ton of support for his X's and O's. But, in the end, you have to give him credit for making good on a season that seemed doomed for destruction on January 2.

Of course, the true litmus test is still to come. If we get to the Elite 8, then he has bought enough Vol-Land stock to retire in K-town.
 
#45
#45
I'd like him to do that, because most years his teams are fun to watch and he's a guy that (most of the time) makes us look good when he's on TV.
 
#47
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I think the team that we've got right now is capable of making an embarassing 2nd round exit or a run to the elite 8.....or further. I've noticed this split personality of Pearl's teams since he's been here. They have always been able to get up and win the "big games" but they have had some surprising losses where effort, execution, and coaching were deciding factors. If Pearl were able to keep these teams from exhibiting bi-polar tendencies, then I would be 100% sold on his coaching abilities, but as of yet, I'm sitting at about 75% sold.
 
#49
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VolDad said:
Your point?
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so vd I have read plenty of your posts trying to discredit the opinions of other posters, but never actually saw you take a stance to wards the original post.

Do you think that the first 5 seasons of cpb tenure have been a success according to your standards?

Given the track record of the first 5 years do you think we have reason to believe the future is bright for the coming years of our basketball program under the direction of pearl?
 
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