Is the world better off with the nation of Israel?

[LouderVol]

Interested to see the response to that question.

because they have a LONG history of being in the wrong place (Israel-ish) for a LONG time.
minority religion outside of their state.
they have successfully defended and expanded their state several times against their neighbors in the recent past (for them anyway)
they make lots of money
wear funny hats
have weird noses
are subverting the world thru their lizard people allies


"As of December 2018, 163 of the 193 UN member states recognize Israel "
Palestine "is recognized as a sovereign state by 136 UN members. "

so who in this argument has few allies?

 

[LouderVol]

Russian is an ethnicity now?

And yes it was an invasion of a sovereign country. It would be no different than us invading a country we have troops stationed in.

I am using the stationing of our Consulate guard in Moscow, or wherever we maybe got moved to, as justification to annex Russia. I mean they are already there, right?

 

[Pacer92]

because they have a LONG history of being in the wrong place (Israel-ish) for a LONG time.
minority religion outside of their state.
they have successfully defended and expanded their state several times against their neighbors in the recent past (for them anyway)
they make lots of money
wear funny hats
have weird noses
are subverting the world thru their lizard people allies


"As of December 2018, 163 of the 193 UN member states recognize Israel "
Palestine "is recognized as a sovereign state by 136 UN members. "

so who in this argument has few allies?

I bet you believe they are the chosen ones? Am I close?

 

[LouderVol]

Why would Russians be forced to join Russia?!

Don’t confuse security/protection as an invasion. If the people of Crimea wanted to join the Ukraine instead...where was all the bloodshed? Or protesting?

after they had already been invaded.
there would be no reason for them to "join" Ukraine, Russia already said they were part of Ukraine back in 1991. (I think thats when the disarmament of Ukraine happened)

 

[LouderVol]

I bet you believe they are the chosen ones? Am I close?

you might want to reread my post there Pacer. didn't say anything of the sort. got anything else besides a made up argument?

 

[Pacer92]

after they had already been invaded.
there would be no reason for them to "join" Ukraine, Russia already said they were part of Ukraine back in 1991. (I think thats when the disarmament of Ukraine happened)

But did the people have a say in 91? What you guys refuse to see is that majority Russians aren’t against Russia...

 

[Pacer92]

you might want to reread my post there Pacer. didn't say anything of the sort. got anything else besides a made up argument?

No fabrication. I’m asking a serious question. Why does Israel always get a pass...those who oppose, dont?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Why would Russians be forced to join Russia?!

Don’t confuse security/protection as an invasion. If the people of Crimea wanted to join the Ukraine instead...where was all the bloodshed? Or protesting?

Its been 5 years. Still waiting for those disenfranchised Crimeans to step up and demand their independence from Russia.

 

[LouderVol]

But did the people have a say in 91? What you guys refuse to see is that majority Russians aren’t against Russia...

depending on what you mean by "against Russia" I would agree. but I guaren-dam-tee that its not as high as the votes for Putin.

there was absolutely zero push for Crimea to leave Ukraine and join Russia. ZERO. and then one night they just suddenly change their mind, kick out their elected leaders (you know from a real election), hold an impromptu vote, and are gone 2 days later? You don't buy Maiden square, but believe a whole country/region just upped and moved nations in a single night?

 

[LouderVol]

No fabrication. I’m asking a serious question. Why does Israel always get a pass...those who oppose, dont?

pass? what pass? There was a question asked, I answered it. if you have a problem with my answer lets review it, but lets not just keep making crap up.

 

[Pacer92]

Its been 5 years. Still waiting for those disenfranchised Crimeans to step up and demand their independence from Russia.

Ukraine is now a puppet state...nothing sovereign about it. Russia is strong and independent...

A no brainer..

 

[LouderVol]

Its been 5 years. Still waiting for those disenfranchised Crimeans to step up and demand their independence from Russia.

Even RT has like zero news from Crimea. its like nothing at all is happening there. Last article that has anything to do with Crimea is a bridge that was built in June.
no mention of the border wall that has gone up.

I doubt we hear too much about the gulag vacationers if we don't even know what is civically going on there.
Crimea news — RT

 

[LouderVol]

Ukraine is now a puppet state...nothing sovereign about it. Russia is strong and independent...

A no brainer..

until someone might threaten to maybe, potentially, one day, consider an option, to cut off their oil. and then suddenly not so strong and independent.
they have intervened militarily in two nations recently to protect their oil. Who does that sound like.....

 

[Pacer92]

depending on what you mean by "against Russia" I would agree. but I guaren-dam-tee that its not as high as the votes for Putin.

there was absolutely zero push for Crimea to leave Ukraine and join Russia. ZERO. and then one night they just suddenly change their mind, kick out their elected leaders (you know from a real election), hold an impromptu vote, and are gone 2 days later? You don't buy Maiden square, but believe a whole country/region just upped and moved nations in a single night?

Against Russia is against Russia...pivot west. Let’s be honest....it black and white...no grey or wiggle room to support both causes in today’s world? Or is there?

I really don’t think that most Americans can or would like to admit that WE sponsored an anti-Russian coup...on their doorstep. It’s our history....it’s not questionable. Russia/USSR has attempted the same as well...

Russia...Iran...everyone has grown up. There are no pushovers anymore. Countries are tired of being pushed around by the US..

 

[Pacer92]

until someone might threaten to maybe, potentially, one day, consider an option, to cut off their oil. and then suddenly not so strong and independent.
they have intervened militarily in two nations recently to protect their oil. Who does that sound like.....

Why would someone do that?

 

[LouderVol]

the biggest way I know the invasion of Crimea was an invasion and not a peaceful turnover was because you two guys never once crowed about before it happened. You guys never dropped any RT news drops, hints, or were gleeful and telling us all to wait and see what happened. you two guys were just as shocked as us.

 

[Pacer92]

the biggest way I know the invasion of Crimea was an invasion and not a peaceful turnover was because you two guys never once crowed about before it happened. You guys never dropped any RT news drops, hints, or were gleeful and telling us all to wait and see what happened. you two guys were just as shocked as us.

I was shocked in one area...that it was Ukraine....I’ll admit that, but it was VERY obvious by the noted war mongering politicians on stage at Maiden...could read it like a book.

Why is there never any real, genuine, conflict resolving with our diplomacy? It’s all bullying...

 

[Orangeslice13]

Why so many enemies? And so few allies?

Interested to see the response to that question.

Most likely because while we’re trying to turn out gender studies graduates and figuring out which bathroom to use, they’re busy not giving a **** what anyone thinks.

 

[evillawyer]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...85ef_story.html#click=https://t.co/vVqWir0x4q



Where have I heard this before:

"The investigation, which Netanyahu has dismissed as a “witch hunt,” has cast a shadow on Israeli politics for more than a year. In February, Attorney General Avichai Mandelblit announced his intention to indict Netanyahu, pending these hearings, on charges of fraud, bribery and breach of trust going back to 2011."

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Slice states the truth. It isnt complicated. Palestine isnt a sovereign country now or ever. It is an "idea" some arabs in the area have.


These lands are purchased from arabs willing to sell by Israelis . Therefore they become "Israel territory" when Israel's gov decides to annex that neighborhood owned by Israelis...it is EXACTLY like Chattanooga annexing surrounding neighborhoods. It would be different if those hoods were actually IN ANOTHER COUNTRY like Jordan or Egypt. They are not. Period. Palestine is not a country. Why yall seemingly intelligent adults refuse to understand this simple concept I dont know.

Let's not forget that not so long ago all of these Arab countries ATTACKED Israel at the same time...and Israel beat the brakes off of every one of them and rightfully took large pieces of territory on the Sinai Peninsula...and elsewhere...they GAVE IT BACK TO THE COUNTRIES THAT ATTACKED THEM. Didnt have to. But they did . Egypt is now an ally. Even the Saudis have recently said that the Israelis should be left in peace and that the Arabs should mind their own business and work on the living conditions in their own often 3rd world countries.

Ever seen the middle east from space??? Theres a big green spot . That's Israel. They have only been there since 1948 but have managed to IRRIGATE their country and make it not be a desolate desert sheit hole. The arabs all around them have been there since before Christ walked and their people starve because their countries are desert sheit holes.

Who is the problem? The Israelis? Do they ever attack their neighbors unprovoked like was done to them? Do they let their people starve and live in 3rd world conditions? Do they breed hate and terrorists? Who is the problem then? Them or the arabs and iran???

Anybody with any sense can answer these questions. Yall Jew haters make yourselves look very bad in this thread.




This ...easy to understand fellas

I work with a guy on the project I'm on right now that is Palestinian. His home was in the West Bank. His wife is from East Jerusalem. Not long after they they got married here in the US, the Israeli govt told her that she had either move back to East Jerusalem for a certain amount of time or lose her citizenship. Now, I find that very interesting. This is a person that was born and raised in East Jerusalem, yet just because she was married and living in the US, she was threatened with losing her citizenship. Yet, someone born here in America that had never touched Israeli soil could be granted dual-citizenship and be free to enter and leave Israel with no restrictions.

Now you tell me, is that fair and just?

 

[Orangeslice13]

I work with a guy on the project I'm on right now that is Palestinian. His home was in the West Bank. His wife is from East Jerusalem. Not long after they they got married here in the US, the Israeli govt told her that she had either move back to East Jerusalem for a certain amount of time or lose her citizenship. Now, I find that very interesting. This is a person that was born and raised in East Jerusalem, yet just because she was married and living in the US, she was threatened with losing her citizenship. Yet, someone born here in America that had never touched Israeli soil could be granted dual-citizenship and be free to enter and leave Israel with no restrictions.

Now you tell me, is that fair and just?

Nope not fair.
You probably should just avoid the area so bad **** doesn’t happen to you at the hands of the evil Jews.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Lmao..

I am not a Jew and I still resent the hades out of this thread title. Why it has been allowed to exist baffles me.

Let's try some more threads:

Is the world better off with gays in it???

Is the world better off with hispanics?

Is the world better off with muslims?

Is the world better off with trannys?

Is the world better off with women in it? (Yes...yes it is. Just wish most were mute)

Is the world better off with chinese?

Is the world better off with Saudis?

Is the world better off with communists?

Is the world better off with socialist dems?

Is the world better off with.....

Yall get the idea? How many of those thread titles would immediately get deleted because they arent PC?

What makes Israel different? Says who?

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Fake impeachment hearings yet 350 rockets have been lobbed at Israel the past two days. Not a peep on the MSM.


Thread by @IDF: "OPERATIONAL RECAP: 4:00am - IDF conducts surgical strike of Islamic Jihad commander in Gaza, Baha Abu Al Ata 5:51am - Islamic Jihad in Gaza […]"

 

[Orangeslice13]

Fake impeachment hearings yet 350 rockets have been lobbed at Israel the past two days. Not a peep on the MSM.


Thread by @IDF: "OPERATIONAL RECAP: 4:00am - IDF conducts surgical strike of Islamic Jihad commander in Gaza, Baha Abu Al Ata 5:51am - Islamic Jihad in Gaza […]"

Obadiah 1:18

The house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau stubble; they shall burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor for the house of Esau, for the LORD has spoken.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]