Is this a final 4 line up?

#26
#26
We could go final four THIS season. We are deep, motivated, and experienced. We need to get some contributions from the wings and we need to stay out of trouble (Kenny hall) so we can stay fresh with talented guys rotating in.

We need to find a way to shoot the ball more consistently from deep, and if we do we are about as complete a team as you'll find IMO.
 
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#27
TBtheGBwiththeTD said:
We could go final four THIS season. We are deep, motivated, and experienced. We need to get some contributions from the wings and we need to stay out of trouble (Kenny hall) so we can stay fresh with talented guys rotating in.

We need to find a way to shoot the ball more consistently from deep, and if we do we are about as complete a team as you'll find IMO.
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To add to your point, as much fun as watching teams run up and down the floor is during the regular season, it is the teams that rebound and play defense that tend to have more success in the tourney. When ref's start letting play get more physical and points get harder and harder to come by, it's the teams that can stay focused for 40 minutes, play good defense, and rebound/chase down loose balls that tend to come out on top. I think this team has those qualities based on how they finished out the regular season last year.
 
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zansdad said:
To add to your point, as much fun as watching teams run up and down the floor is during the regular season, it is the teams that rebound and play defense that tend to have more success in the tourney. When ref's start letting play get more physical and points get harder and harder to come by, it's the teams that can stay focused for 40 minutes, play good defense, and rebound/chase down loose balls that tend to come out on top. I think this team has those qualities based on how they finished out the regular season last year.
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Free Throws too.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
IMO...

Nichols=Maymon as far as production

Hubbs>>>>>>>>>>>Mcbee

Stokes(jr)>>>>>>>stokes(so)

Golden(sr), McRae(sr), edwards(sr), yemi(jr)>>>>>>>>golden(jr), mcrae(jr), edwards(jr), yemi(so)

I feel like we upgrade 3 out of 5 starting spots....golden, McRae and stokes all be experience, another offseason.

I then feel like its pretty even with Nichols and maymon...very different players, but from production I think about even.

that leaves you at SG...the comparison between mcbee and hubbs isn't even worth going into its so vast. One is a potential NBA lottery pick, and the other is, well...mcbee.
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Well, I will be shocked if freshman Nichols will equal anywhere near Maymon's production. His ability to score, get to the line, ft%, rebounding I do not think will be matched. If so, then we will be better for it, but a healthy Maymon is a beast. Not taking away from Nichols, but I think Maymon was robbed last year at receiving 2nd team ALL SEC. To say Nichols will be 1st / 2nd team All SEC coming in I think is a little much. Now the question I had was is Hubbs the difference between a top 25 team and Final 4 calibre. I think he is. Take McBee off this year's team and replace him Hubbs and I think it definitely becomes Final 4 calibre.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Well, I will be shocked if freshman Nichols will equal anywhere near Maymon's production. His ability to score, get to the line, ft%, rebounding I do not think will be matched. If so, then we will be better for it, but a healthy Maymon is a beast. Not taking away from Nichols, but I think Maymon was robbed last year at receiving 2nd team ALL SEC. To say Nichols will be 1st / 2nd team All SEC coming in I think is a little much. Now the question I had was is Hubbs the difference between a top 25 team and Final 4 calibre. I think he is. Take McBee off this year's team and replace him Hubbs and I think it definitely becomes Final 4 calibre.
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It depends. If Nichols can come in and average 12/7, and Stokes improves off his sophomore year, then you add that Yemi will improve and hopefully another big man freshman, then I think our posts can be just as good.

Hubbs is the key. UT is going to have someone on the wing that can get into the paint at will and wants to.
 
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zjcvols said:
Free Throws too.
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This is one of the few areas I think everyone can agree that McBee is an asset. Golden is a great at the line too. Everyone else that I expect to get significant minutes is at least respectable to solid, except Stokes. (Hopefully he can at least get up into the high 60's).
 
#32
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zjcvols said:
It depends. If Nichols can come in and average 12/7, and Stokes improves off his sophomore year, then you add that Yemi will improve and hopefully another big man freshman, then I think our posts can be just as good.

Hubbs is the key. UT is going to have someone on the wing that can get into the paint at will and wants to.
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Exactly, Hubbs is the key. It gives us someone that can make that spot up 3 when needed. Someone that can drive to the basket when needed beside a wild Golden. Someone that can create his own shot.

I still don't think our post will be as good as Maymon/Stokes/Hall, but if they are then awesome. Enjoy this year though. I think special things will happen with the group we have. If we learn to feed the post and Stokes improves his ft%, then we will be a darn good team. Very hard to beat.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Well, I will be shocked if freshman Nichols will equal anywhere near Maymon's production. His ability to score, get to the line, ft%, rebounding I do not think will be matched. If so, then we will be better for it, but a healthy Maymon is a beast. Not taking away from Nichols, but I think Maymon was robbed last year at receiving 2nd team ALL SEC. To say Nichols will be 1st / 2nd team All SEC coming in I think is a little much. Now the question I had was is Hubbs the difference between a top 25 team and Final 4 calibre. I think he is. Take McBee off this year's team and replace him Hubbs and I think it definitely becomes Final 4 calibre.
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I was saying from a stats point they'd be similar...maymon went for 13/8, I can see Nichols averaging close to that.

I agree maymon was robbed, but he was deserving because of the other things he did, things Nichols probably won't do as a freshman.

As for hubbs, yes I think he is that type of player.
 
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zjcvols said:
It depends. If Nichols can come in and average 12/7, and Stokes improves off his sophomore year, then you add that Yemi will improve and hopefully another big man freshman, then I think our posts can be just as good.

Hubbs is the key. UT is going to have someone on the wing that can get into the paint at will and wants to.
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Exactly, much better worded than what I said.
 
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Who is JW3 and Nichols? I don't see any of them on the roster

Edit: Ok I just skimmed through the Austin Nichols thread. Dude has some great offers. Is he leaning towards Tennessee?
 
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zansdad said:
This is one of the few areas I think everyone can agree that McBee is an asset. Golden is a great at the line too. Everyone else that I expect to get significant minutes is at least respectable to solid, except Stokes. (Hopefully he can at least get up into the high 60's).
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I think McBee's percentage from the free throw line is misleading.
Because he shoots 90% from beyond the arc he is rarely fouled.
He shot 31 fts last season. Less than 1 per game.
Having him on the floor for anything more than trying to cut a lead with 3s is senseless with the addition of new guards this season.
 
#38
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bleedingTNorange said:
Weird calban, are you in my mind, was about to start something similar...

I don't see us landing J3 but...

Golden...top 75 4*
Hubbs...top 15 5*
McRae...top 50 4*
Nichols...top 20 5*
Stokes...top 15 5*

OH MY!
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Doubt Stokes will stay, but it would be great to see! Maybe he values his education enough to stay. Has he mentioned anything about what he would like to do after school besides NBA?
 
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volnpowell said:
Doubt Stokes will stay, but it would be great to see! Maybe he values his education enough to stay. Has he mentioned anything about what he would like to do after school besides NBA?
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No, but it was said when he commited the plan was for him to go to college for 3 years. A lot will depend on where he is projected at seasons end.
 
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calban said:
Some of us, I admit, have already been blinded by HOPE. We're already seeing banners in our sleep.

Others are still in a Prove IT To Me mode, and that's okay.

Looking ahead to the 2013-2014 season, how far do you think this line up takes us?
If you don't see JW at the 3 pencil in your choice.

Golden
Hubbs
JW3
Nichols
Stokes
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bleedingTNorange said:
Weird calban, are you in my mind, was about to start something similar...

I don't see us landing J3 but...

Golden...top 75 4*
Hubbs...top 15 5*
McRae...top 50 4*
Nichols...top 20 5*
Stokes...top 15 5*

OH MY!
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I'd be happy with either.
 
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calban said:
I think McBee's percentage from the free throw line is misleading.
Because he shoots 90% from beyond the arc he is rarely fouled.
He shot 31 fts last season. Less than 1 per game.
Having him on the floor for anything more than trying to cut a lead with 3s is senseless with the addition of new guards this season.
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I guess I was wrong. People can find a reason to bash McBee for being a good FT shooter.
 
#43
#43
Say Stokes leaves and land who we think we will. How far do you see us going in the tourney then? I'm hoping Stokes stays, but curious on thoughts if he doesn't.
 
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zansdad said:
I guess I was wrong. People can find a reason to bash McBee for being a good FT shooter.
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Not bashing.
Just stating facts.
I like McBee, just wish we could transplant his heart into Hall.

He's a one dimensional player. If that's bashing so be it.
 
#46
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calban said:
Not bashing.
Just stating facts.
I like McBee, just wish we could transplant his heart into Hall.

He's a one dimensional player. If that's bashing so be it.
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A number of games last year he stole the ball in the closing moments and usually we managed to natch defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
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knowthevols said:
A number of games last year he stole the ball in the closing moments and usually we managed to natch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Not sure how to respond.
Are you saying he stole the ball and we lost anyway?
I'll concede his 22 steals in 30 plus games. Some may have been at opportune times.
This year we are much more versatile at the guard position.
Would much rather see guys on the floor that are blocking shots, attacking the basket and rebounding in the end of games.
Even if they only shoot 75% from ft line.
 
#49
#49
I was thinking about this in my head yesterday.. I had either McRae or Richardson at the 3. Either way, that's probably the most talented Tennessee starting 5 of my lifetime.
 
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calban said:
I think McBee's percentage from the free throw line is misleading.
Because he shoots 90% from beyond the arc he is rarely fouled.
He shot 31 fts last season. Less than 1 per game.
Having him on the floor for anything more than trying to cut a lead with 3s is senseless with the addition of new guards this season.
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I disagree. I thought McBee became one of our most reliable perimeter defenders in the second half of last year. If he does that, and hits threes when he gets opportunities, he should play.

Plus, he is a senior with great experience that works his butt off. You better believe Cuonzo is gonna play him.
 
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