Is your own political ideology espoused by someone noteworthy?

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1. Justin Amash

2. IDK how closely I'm aligned with them, but from what I read and have heard, I align pretty well with Vince Vaughn, Drew Carey, Big Boi, Penn & Teller, and Kurt Russell.

3. Unless it's genuinely some of the best fruit pie you've ever had, I don't want to eat it. Any old fruit pie isn't worth the calories to me. I do **** with pumpkin pie and chocolate pies. I very much do **** with meat pies.
 
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Here's your vanilla ice.

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Damnit I didn’t even see that 😂
 
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And if I'm to pick just one celebrity to speak for my politics, it's definitely Penn Jilette. I watched his show ********. I've read a couple of his books. I watched his doc about the Amazing Randi (must see). I know what he's about, and he's a compassionate libertarian, which is what I want to espouse.
 
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And if I'm to pick just one celebrity to speak for my politics, it's definitely Penn Jilette. I watched his show ********. I've read a couple of his books. I watched his doc about the Amazing Randi (must see). I know what he's about, and he's a compassionate libertarian, which is what I want to espouse.
I thought you werent allowed to like other libertarians.
 
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I no longer have any public figure who is the standard bearer for my political ideology. That realization got me to thinking. We live in a country where voters are choosing the lesser of bad candidates rather than choosing someone who articulates their views. I also think the views we discuss here are hyper-rigid because it is fun to have an outlet for our argumentative nature but many of us don't hold steadfast to the points we fight about in this forum.

So here are my questions:
1. Who is/are the current political figure(s) (elected, formerly elected, or running as candidate in elections) who most closely align with your own political ideology?

2. Who are the public figures , living or dead (authors,bloggers, thinkers, entertainers, political show hosts, deceased politicians etc), who do a great job of representing your views on how American politics should function?

3. Lastly, how many of you like pie and what is your favorite pie (even though this isn't a poll)?

1) Thomas Sowell and Barack Obama haha.
I know.

2) Sun Tzu, Ray Kerzweil, MLK

3) Pecan Pie. Or perhaps fresh apple pie with Vanilla Ice Cream. Oh and then Whipped Cheesecake With Lemon flavor.
 
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1. Justin Amash

2. IDK how closely I'm aligned with them, but from what I read and have heard, I align pretty well with Vince Vaughn, Drew Carey, Big Boi, Penn & Teller, and Kurt Russell.

3. Unless it's genuinely some of the best fruit pie you've ever had, I don't want to eat it. Any old fruit pie isn't worth the calories to me. I do **** with pumpkin pie and chocolate pies. I very much do **** with meat pies.
Was expecting Walter Williams somewhere on your list.
 
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Hope some of our other posters contribute. Especially those who favor centralized government.
 
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Was expecting Walter Williams somewhere on your list.

I was trying to think of people who aren't famous for politics.

Milton Friedman, Walter Williams, and Frederic Bastiat.

Also, I forgot to mention Robert Heinlein. I would guess if I dug deeper, he probably has some really out-there political ideas. But just in reading his works of fiction, I can tell that we see the world in a very similar fashion. The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress is full of libertarian ideology and Stranger in a Strange Land is a mind **** that takes our norms and culture and turns everything on its head.
 
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For those listing Thomas Sowell, and everyone else too I guess, Prime has a documentary available if you wanna check it out. It’s only about an hour or so. Good content and one heck of a story.
 
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And if I'm to pick just one celebrity to speak for my politics, it's definitely Penn Jilette. I watched his show ********. I've read a couple of his books. I watched his doc about the Amazing Randi (must see). I know what he's about, and he's a compassionate libertarian, which is what I want to espouse.
He's great
 
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Can't think of anyone. I'd like to see:

1. Fiscal conservative in terms of government spending.
2. Eliminates tax structure that favors the ultra wealthy way too much.
3. Favors term limits for Congress. I'm thinking House max four terms of two years each, except for Speaker and Minority Leader who can go two more such terms. Senate two 6 year terms and that's it.
4. Leaves culture wars at the front door every morning and says government has no role in that.
5. Open and routine dialogue with all trading partners. None of this posturing nonsense.
6. Strong priority on energy independence built on both petroleum production and alternative fuels.
7. Supports increased funding for law enforcement in the form of higher salaries to attract better people and better training.

For starters.

I am more of a cake guy. Or bourbon. Definitely bourbon.

Why do we seem so far apart?
 
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I had a teacher in grade school who was a huge historical buff, and left teaching to become a representative for Kentucky. He actually held a school wide presidential election with our class, with debates broadcast on our tv network. I won the democratic nomination, then won the presidency of our grade school. He got me hooked, especially with JFK stuff. He was, and is a moderate Democrat, like most of my family back home. The democratic party went from moderates for the people, to die hard liberal or bust. I saw it coming, and it made me not want to be a Democrat anymore. As far as Republicans, it was actually Ken Starr and the crap about Clinton that irked me with them the most. Silly, yeah maybe, but it just turned me off. Of course they have many issues, as do Democrats, so I'm independent. Side note, that election got me into a fight that ended up with one of the worst butt whoopings I ever got. Not from the guy I fought, but my dad. I cussed at a teacher fir breaking it up, and when my parents found out, my supporters couldn't save me🤣.

And it's key lime, period!👀
 
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1&2 Genghis Khan

Just watched a documentary on him , and about his descents being directly responsible for the Russian empire because they wouldn’t stop raiding them . Pretty cool , I didn’t know that .
 

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