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McDad said:
The article estimates about 10 hospitals are treating pts the best they can.

Do you agree or disagree with that paraphrase [by me]?
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I'd say more are by now. I believe that the Indonesian Hospital for example was repaired and reopened. I think several are still closed per what I've read.
 
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EasternVol said:
Add two more vicious journalists. IDF can't be letting people see what's going on, that could be detrimental to the narrative.
www.nytimes.com

Two Al Jazeera Journalists Were Killed in Israeli Airstrike on Gaza

A reporter and a cameraman were working from or near the house of Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas political chief who was assassinated on Tuesday.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Hamas was responsible, claimed responsibility for the attacks on Oct 7. These two were collateral damage. They were attached to and covering a high ranking government official of a government that declared war/committed acts of war against their enemies civilians.

Why the attempt to frame this as the killing of two reporters for telling the story instead of collateral damage in a strike against a legitimate military target? There are plenty of examples that are valid, why try to frame this one?
 
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EasternVol said:
I'd say more are by now. I believe that the Indonesian Hospital for example was repaired and reopened. I think several are still closed per what I've read.
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did you see the paragraph where they acknowledged estimating Hospital availability [as well as other services dysfunctional] was challenging and imprecise?
 
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KB5252 said:
Hamas was responsible, claimed responsibility for the attacks on Oct 7. These two were collateral damage. They were attached to and covering a high ranking government official of a government that declared war/committed acts of war against their enemies civilians.

Why the attempt to frame this as the killing of two reporters for telling the story instead of collateral damage in a strike against a legitimate military target? There are plenty of examples that are valid, why try to frame this one?
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Hamas isn't responsible for an Israeli strike on journalists, that's ridiculous.
The 'high ranking government official' was killed in Tehran, Iran. The journalists were killed in Gaza. That's not collateral damage. It's the IDF silencing those who shed light on what's happening in Gaza.
 
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KB5252 said:
Hamas was responsible, claimed responsibility for the attacks on Oct 7. These two were collateral damage. They were attached to and covering a high ranking government official of a government that declared war/committed acts of war against their enemies civilians.

Why the attempt to frame this as the killing of two reporters for telling the story instead of collateral damage in a strike against a legitimate military target? There are plenty of examples that are valid, why try to frame this one?
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I see, they were reporting from his home..... not where he was staying. Fair enough, there's a point of distinction that I missed completely speeding through the article.
 
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McDad said:
Last Q, not related to the article.

At the time the young woman was shot and "treated medically" was the infrastructure and hospital availability on par with where it is presently?
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At the time she was shot it would have been better. Do we know the timeline of the treatments in question? I assume they were over some time.
 
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EasternVol said:
At the time she was shot it would have been better. Do we know the timeline of the treatments in question? I assume they were over some time.
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I do not. I also do not know the urgency for her initial "treatment".

You've been very cooperative in our dialogue. I'll share my thoughts for you to consider. The poster to whom I replied made statements about no hospital services were available. And whether we look at what is currently available via the article or Google Maps ...with an admission that neither is the gold standard for accuracy...or we think back to the availability at the time of the injury, I believe we can all agree there were options for the victim which were better and more humane for the young woman.
 
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McDad said:
I do not. I also do not know the urgency for her initial "treatment".

You've been very cooperative in our dialogue. I'll share my thoughts for you to consider. The poster I replied made statements about no hospital services were available. And whether we look at what is currently available via the article or Google Maps ...with an admission that neither is the gold standard for accuracy...or we think back to the availability at the time of the injury, I believe we can all agree there were options for the victim which were better and more humane for the young woman.
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If the the only treatment rendered was the chlorine and ketamine then yes real medical care would have been available. If the ad hoc treatment happened after some time then it may not have been.
 
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EasternVol said:
If the the only treatment rendered the chlorine and ketamine then yes real medical care would have been available. If the ad hoc treatment happened after some time then it may not have been.
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Are you contemplating that she was taken to hospital initially and the treatment we are discussing was done some time later?
 
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Matthew 24:6-13

6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
 
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#25,000
Netanyahu's escalating things to stay in power and out of prison. Our dumbass administration will probably let him drag us into his wars.
 
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