Israel vs Palestinians

[Vol8188]

It is here, but you are correct about those three being weak. They are up shiz creek if basically any western country get directly involved...and it will happen. History proves this.

Their weakness will prevent war. You don’t go into a war knowing you’ll lose

 

[norrislakevol]

Their weakness will prevent war. You don’t go into a war knowing you’ll lose

Well, to your point Iran has been very careful about self preservation in my view, but it may be too late for them as they have been walking the tight rope and are about to fall off said rope.

 

[KB5252]

Is Iran legally an enemy, as in is there a declaration of war or some such which means they are? Maybe our sanctions on them would be sufficient legal indication but then maybe not.

Striking a high ranking Iranian general who was responsible for the killing of US soldiers and was involved in planning of future attacks on US interests....... Said country also striking US and Western civilian shipping I think are both pretty good indications of where we stand...


But it is short of actual declaration.

 

[StarRaider]

Israel’s military confirms killing of Hashem Safieddine, Hezbollah’s apparent heir to Hassan Nasrallah

The Israeli military confirmed Tuesday that Hashem Safieddine, who was believed to be Hezbollah’s next top official, was killed in an Israeli attack. He was found to have been killed in an Oct. 4 …

nypost.com

 

[ETV]

Israel’s military confirms killing of Hashem Safieddine, Hezbollah’s apparent heir to Hassan Nasrallah

The Israeli military confirmed Tuesday that Hashem Safieddine, who was believed to be Hezbollah’s next top official, was killed in an Israeli attack. He was found to have been killed in an Oct. 4 …

nypost.com

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Do you think that counts as treason? Not being argumentative. I've been debating that for a bit.

Jonothan Pollard says hi.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

And with Trump seeming more insane as each day goes by, what does that give us? Either way we're, to be polite, in a bad spot.

 

[volfanhill]

Jonothan Pollard says hi.

No one gave Iran anything though. Pollard gave secrets to Israel. They just leaked them. Now Iran obviously benefited. And that was the leakers intent

 

[EasternVol]

Striking a high ranking Iranian general who was responsible for the killing of US soldiers and was involved in planning of future attacks on US interests....... Said country also striking US and Western civilian shipping I think are both pretty good indications of where we stand...


But it is short of actual declaration.

Good points. Another aspect is whose secrets were leaked. Those weren't our plans but Israel's. So where's the harm / treason to us?

 

[EasternVol]

How does he seem “more insane as each day goes by”

Let someone else put makeup on half their face, decide to listen to music at a rally rather than speak, and make increasingly disjointed statements as the campaign goes by and see who doesn't question their sanity. Or maybe he's just trying to not win.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Well, to your point Iran has been very careful about self preservation in my view, but it may be too late for them as they have been walking the tight rope and are about to fall off said rope.

They’ve definitely been pushing the envelope….. they were responsible for a lot of US deaths in Iraq

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Do you think that counts as treason? Not being argumentative. I've been debating that for a bit.

Looks like she was caught last year in potentially aiding the enemy and still kept her job.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

From the article:

Possibly worse than Malley’s appointment is that of Ariane Tabatabai, an academic turned State Department and Pentagon official. She was part of the now-infamous Iran Experts Initiative — a program used by Tehran’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs to cultivate relationships with foreign academics who could carry water for the regime.

At one point, according to reporting from Semafor, which revealed the program’s existence, Tabatabai opted to skip a conference in Israel after an Iranian official instructed her not to go. She also consulted with this same Iranian official regarding how she should testify in hearings before Congress. Her job today — chief of staff to the Pentagon official who oversees special operations.

The Biden Iran Scandal Gets Worse | National Review

The alarming leak of U.S. intel about Israel’s retaliation plans shows the Biden administration is compromised by individuals sympathetic to the terrorist regime.

www.nationalreview.com

Who ever hired this chick needs to be fired as well.

So she was in communications with Iranian officals and she not only kept her job but was potentially privy to information about our Special Operations command?

 

[Vol8188]

Let someone else put makeup on half their face, decide to listen to music at a rally rather than speak, and make increasingly disjointed statements as the campaign goes by and see who doesn't question their sanity. Or maybe he's just trying to not win.

They were listening to music to stall because audience members had a medical emergency. You think Trump does his own makeup?

I’ve not seen disjointed statements. I’ve seen him do multiple hour long podcasts that are uncut.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

DEI hires in the government just isn't smart.

 

[SuzyVol]

Who ever hired this chick needs to be fired as well.

So she was in communications with Iranian officals and she not only kept her job but was potentially privy to information about our Special Operations command?

Just a gut reaction on my part, but I suspect the release was from much higher on the intelligence/diplomatic/defense food chain.

 

[StarRaider]

 

[KB5252]

Good points. Another aspect is whose secrets were leaked. Those weren't our plans but Israel's. So where's the harm / treason to us?

Because it's our intelligence, our ally and our enemy. Whether it's us striking them or not it is in our interests. Treason is giving aid or comfort to the enemy. It's not a stretch to view offering them intelligence about an imminent attack as treason.


And here's another wrinkle I was considering last night. We have asked Israel to avoid nuclear or oil facilities. And reports were that Israel had agreed and would hit military targets........ My worry is this is seen as a US dagger in their side. That the restraint they had agreed to at our urging may be off the table.

These little details can often change the entire course of events. The US needs to get this figured out and handled quickly.

 

[EasternVol]

Because it's our intelligence, our ally and our enemy. Whether it's us striking them or not it is in our interests. Treason is giving aid or comfort to the enemy. It's not a stretch to view offering them intelligence about an imminent attack as treason.


And here's another wrinkle I was considering last night. We have asked Israel to avoid nuclear or oil facilities. And reports were that Israel had agreed and would hit military targets........ My worry is this is seen as a US dagger in their side. That the restraint they had agreed to at our urging may be off the table.

These little details can often change the entire course of events. The US needs to get this figured out and handled quickly.

We certainly need to if we don't have it figured already. As noted by another poster above it may have come from the top. Netanyahu's a loose cannon to say the least and this may have been an attempt to guide his hand.

 

[KB5252]

We certainly need to if we don't have it figured already. As noted by another poster above it may have come from the top. Netanyahu's a loose cannon to say the least and this may have been an attempt to guide his hand.

If you believe he is a loose cannon, and you already believed to have had his agreement to avoid nuclear and oil facilities then this was the stupidest move imaginable.

Another note, if you hoped to have any influence or chance at bending his ear in future decisions it's likewise a very unwise decision to do this.

This is the result, at least in part, of weak uneffective US leadership unfortunately.

And if we have figured it out and are playing it like this............ Not good, for anyone.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

No one gave Iran anything though. Pollard gave secrets to Israel. They just leaked them. Now Iran obviously benefited. And that was the leakers intent

The only difference here is that Pollard directly handed them over. The end result was the same. The intended beneficiary of the information still got that information. They should join him in prison. A bullet to the head would be much better, but we are supposedly a civilized nation.

Edit: Apparently, shitbag has been paroled.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Everyone should take a few minutes to listen and watch. HOW TF do you let this happen? How?

 

[Tnslim1]

firing squad or hung

While bullets are cheaper a good rope can be used time after time if stored correctly.

 

[Orangeburst]

we never did hear about the Biden Iranian envoy who just seemed to disappear..

 

[KB5252]

we never did hear about the Biden Iranian envoy who just seemed to disappear..

I'm going to need more details on this...... What happened?