Israel vs Palestinians

[Ritzwatch]

To not be oppressed.

My bad. I thought you were being serious in your discussion. Now I know you just want another forum sparring partner.

If in the future you wish to actually engage in civil discussion of some objective measures of what "justice" might look like to free people from "oppression," I will be happy to try to learn from you.

If all you are looking for is an ego boost by playing "let's parse the vocabulary" on a message board, I am sure there are plenty of others here who will be happy to oblige.

 

[EasternVol]

So, the Palestinians get freed from oppression. What does the new status quo look like?

That's to be worked out between the involved parties.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Cant wait til this little skirmish is finally over. Israel can bulldoze the rubble and expand Israel ever so slightly westward so that it will finally be..."from the river to the sea." Seems pretty clear by now that any remaining hostages held by Hamas are not gonna be released. Its been 14 months right? Terrible animals

 

[EasternVol]

My bad. I thought you were being serious in your discussion. Now I know you just want another forum sparring partner.

If in the future you wish to actually engage in civil discussion of some objective measures of what "justice" might look like to free people from "oppression," I will be happy to try to learn from you.

If all you are looking for is an ego boost by playing "let's parse the vocabulary" on a message board, I am sure there are plenty of others here who will be happy to oblige.

To not be oppressed covers the crux of the issue. Anything beyond that is pointless as far as this conversation goes.

 

[hog88]

Cant wait til this little skirmish is finally over. Israel can bulldoze the rubble and expand Israel ever so slightly westward so that it will finally be..."from the river to the sea." Seems pretty clear by now that any remaining hostages held by Hamas are not gonna be released. Its been 14 months right? Terrible animals

They can start building those beachfront condos.

 

[85SugarVol]

You know that's a scriptural reference to the end days, right? Do you remember that conversation, when you kept insisting the hamas charter says things that it doesn't?

I remember multiple quotes from multiple Palestinian leaders calling for the death of the Jews.

I remember you saying “well, it doesn’t explicitly call for Jewish Genocide in the charter”.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I'll write slowly for you. It's an excerpt from some scripture referring to the end days and not a policy objective, since, you know, those end days aren't here.

Oh, so some Muslims AREN’T seeing it as a clear sanction fromAllah to kill Jews TODAY?
Glad you cleared that up for us
We will be sure to direct any questions from actual Muslims to you since you are qualified to interpret their scripture for them

 

[85SugarVol]

I'll write slowly for you. It's an excerpt from some scripture referring to the end days and not a policy objective, since, you know, those end days aren't here.

Lol he’s not talking about end days here

He [Fathi Hamad] continued: "Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them."

 

[OrangeTsar]

Lol he’s not talking about end days here

He [Fathi Hamad] continued: "Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them."

And even the intent of the scripture actually WAS limited to the end times; the only thing that matters is the interpretation individual believers attach to it.
If someone misinterprets a scripture in using it to justify killing me, I am not somehow “less dead” am I?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Kill every Jew, under every bush, in all the world, something something…

That’s what they regularly say

 

[Orangeslice13]

Hate to break it to you; but this didn’t start in 1948 either.
Can you tell me who built this wall in Jerusalem? (Hint; it WASN’T the “Palestinians”)
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These azzhats like to claim everything was peace and prosperity before 1948 when the Jews were outnumbered and couldn’t fight back effectively. Oppression of the Jews pre 1948 was a peaceful time that was upset by the creation of a Jewish state.
Fing stupidity

 

[EasternVol]

I remember multiple quotes from multiple Palestinian leaders calling for the death of the Jews.

I remember you saying “well, it doesn’t explicitly call for Jewish Genocide in the charter”.

The charter doesn't call for a genocide. It says explicitly that their aim is not genocide. Leaving everything else aside, that's what it says.

 

[Orangeslice13]

And even the intent of the scripture actually WAS limited to the end times; the only thing that matters is the interpretation individual believers attach to it.
If someone misinterprets a scripture in using it to justify killing me, I am not somehow “less dead” am I?

I’m still waiting for someone to cite the “scripture”
The last time we played this game someone posted “my holy book “ in reference to the Koran and got mad that I pointed it out.

 

[EasternVol]

Oh, so some Muslims AREN’T seeing it as a clear sanction fromAllah to kill Jews TODAY?
Glad you cleared that up for us
We will be sure to direct any questions from actual Muslims to you since you are qualified to interpret their scripture for them

I suppose they can make their own interpretations. You should read the charter and see for yourself what it says.

 

[hog88]

I suppose they can make their own interpretations. You should read the charter and see for yourself what it says.

Our "charter" says "shall not be infringed" yet they do a helluva lot of infringing.

 

[EasternVol]

Lol he’s not talking about end days here

He [Fathi Hamad] continued: "Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them."

And that's not the hamas charter though, is it? There's a lot of genocidal rhetoric from individuals on both sides.

 

[bamawriter]

That's to be worked out between the involved parties.

It's amazing that you can be so passionate about this subject yet have so few thoughts on it.

 

[Vol8188]

To not be oppressed.

Which is why I support the IDF overthrowing Hamas

 

[EasternVol]

It's amazing that you can be so passionate about this subject yet have so few thoughts on it.

You're easily amazed.

 

[bamawriter]

You're easily amazed.

I suppose I have a low threshold for illogic.

 

[EasternVol]

I suppose I have a low threshold for illogic.

Yet you practice it. Odd.

 

[85SugarVol]

And that's not the hamas charter though, is it? There's a lot of genocidal rhetoric from individuals on both sides.

1. I didn’t bring up the charter. That’s you, again.

2. I’m less interested in Hamas’ chosen (re-chosen) words in a document, and more interested in their actual rhetoric and actions.

 

[EasternVol]

1. I didn’t bring up the charter. That’s you, again.

2. I’m less interested in Hamas’ chosen (re-chosen) words in a document, and more interested in their actual rhetoric and actions.

You were responding to a post about the charter, so that's you.
Rechosen? No, the whole file.

 

[OrangeTsar]

It wasn't the Zionists coming from Europe in the 19th and 20 centuries either was it?

I didn’t ask who DIDN’T build it. I asked who DID. Can you please answer?

 

[bamawriter]

Yet you practice it. Odd.

Ah, the "I'm rubber and you're glue" argument. Well played.