Israel vs Palestinians

[Franklin Pierce]

The 9 Children still held hostage in Gaza, yet to be freed under truce deal​

Some of the Israeli children in Gaza are being held by terror groups other than Hamas, and the terror group has claimed that not all of their whereabouts are known.

The following is a list of children believed to be still held hostage in Gaza:

Kfir Bibas, 10 months, and Ariel Bibas, 4​

Gali Tarshansky, 13​

Amit Shani, 16​

Ofir Engel, 18​

Bilal Ziyadne, 18, and Aisha Ziyadne, 17​

Liam Or, 18​

Itay Regev, 18​

https://www.timesofisrael.com/the-10-children-still-held-hostage-in-gaza-yet-to-be-freed-under-truce-deal/

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[Orangeslice13]

That much is true, and most probably are. They can also curse those raining down that hell.

76 % approval of Hamas in last poll.
If I was Israel, I’d leave a generational mark that leaves no doubt that they should absolutely never ever attempt anything like this again.

That message apparently has yet to be understood, so here comes round 2 and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

 

[85SugarVol]

That much is true, and most probably are. They can also curse those raining down that hell.

What numbers are informing your belief that “most probably are”?

 

[EasternVol]

76 % approval of Hamas in last poll.
If I was Israel, I’d leave a generational mark that leaves no doubt that they should absolutely never ever attempt anything like this again.

That message apparently has yet to be understood, so here comes round 2 and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

I haven't seen 76% but a) it wouldn't justify targeting noncombatants, and b) people tend to support their government in wartime even if they don't support them otherwise.

 

[CobbVol]

You can see where the money goes and it is not to water treatment facilities and other infrastructure ...

Hamas leaders worth staggering $11B revel in luxury — while Gaza’s people suffer

Three of the terror group’s most senior figures are able fly private and relax in safety in the tiny emirate — a key US ally — while enjoying an $11bn fortune between them.

nypost.com

 

[Vol8188]

I haven't seen 76% but a) it wouldn't justify targeting noncombatants, and b) people tend to support their government in wartime even if they don't support them otherwise.

Isn’t the entire purpose of a terrorist group to make combatant vs non combatant indistinguishable?

 

[EasternVol]

Isn’t the entire purpose of a terrorist group to make combatant vs non combatant indistinguishable?

Like when the IDF bombs residential areas?

 

[Vol8188]

Like when the IDF bombs residential areas?

Why do you believe the IDF does that

 

[EasternVol]

Why do you believe the IDF does that

A lot of it's vengeance.

 

[Vol8188]

A lot of it's vengeance.

Lmfao

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

76 % approval of Hamas in last poll.
If I was Israel, I’d leave a generational mark that leaves no doubt that they should absolutely never ever attempt anything like this again.

That message apparently has yet to be understood, so here comes round 2 and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Using that logic, the Likud Party coalition and their supporters need to be eliminated also since they openly supported Hamas prior to this, correct?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I haven't seen 76% but a) it wouldn't justify targeting noncombatants, and b) people tend to support their government in wartime even if they don't support them otherwise.

c) Who is able to get reliable polling data since October 7th in Gaza

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Isn’t the entire purpose of a terrorist group to make combatant vs non combatant indistinguishable?

Hamas wouls be a non-factor very likely had the Israelis not openly supported them in the past. All of this animosity needs to be equally directed at Netanyahu and his Likud Party terrorists...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Why do you believe the IDF does that

Because there is evidence of them using hellfire attacks on kibbutzes on October 7th. If they will attack their own citizens (Hannibal Directive), it is obvious they DGAF about those measly Palestinians.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I haven't seen 76% but a) it wouldn't justify targeting noncombatants, and b) people tend to support their government in wartime even if they don't support them otherwise.

They aren’t.
They are targeting Hamas.
Hamas is hiding behind their people like the shitbags that they are.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Using that logic, the Likud Party coalition and their supporters need to be eliminated also since they openly supported Hamas prior to this, correct?

You know where you can stick your strawman and false equivalency.
Hamas and Hamas alone has been targeted

 

[NashVol11]

They aren’t.
They are targeting Hamas.
Hamas is hiding behind their people like the shitbags that they are.

If you fire on a maternity ward on the 5th floor IIRC and the justification is that Hamas uses tunnels several stories underground, not sure how one can say that's about "targeting Hamas" with a straight face

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You know where you can stick your strawman and false equivalency.
Hamas and Hamas alone has been targeted

You mad or are you calling me a liar?
Netanyahu and Hamas depended on each other. Both may be on the way out

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

They aren’t.
They are targeting Hamas.
Hamas is hiding behind their people like the shitbags that they are.

If they were actually targeting Hamas, they wouldn't have conducted the campaign that they are doing now. They would have engaged in a counter-terrorism campaign that specifically targetted Hamas.

They are just "mowing the grass" and clearing way for new Israeli settlements at this point.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Hell yeah so pleasurable watching Israel destroy a bunch of schools and hospitals and displace 2M people

It's Allah's will comrade.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You mad or are you calling me a liar?
Netanyahu and Hamas depended on each other. Both may be on the way out

I think you’re a lier
I don’t read anything you’re lying ass posts

 

[Orangeslice13]

It's Allah's will comrade.

It’s hamas’s will. They brought this hell on themselves

 

[Orangeslice13]

Look at that.
The AP says most of the stuff the anti-semites claim as war crimes are fake.

Fake babies, real horror: Deepfakes from the Gaza war increase fears about AI's power to mislead

Among images of the bombed out homes and ravaged streets of Gaza, some stood out for the utter horror: Bloodied, abandoned infants.

apnews.com

 

[Orangeslice13]

A lot of its vengeance.

FAFO.

The people of Gaza should stop letting Hamas hide among them.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I think you’re a lier
I don’t read anything you’re lying ass posts

What about reading from the Times of Israel? Are they liars?

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.