Israel vs Palestinians

[OrangeTsar]

Practically everything since 10/7 has been a strategic disaster for Israel. At every turn, Israel has chosen short-term beneficial actions at the expense of long-term costs.

Honest question; if you would have been in charge of the Israeli government on the morning of 08 October, what would you have done differently to ensure the safety of you people?

 

[volfanhill]

@McDad and @85SugarVol

what yuz say?

Not a threat against a specific person. Makes it vague and not punishable by government. We should error far on the side of protecting rights over the other side.

 

[OrangeTsar]

You mean the thing that’s happened with LibsOfTikTok dozens of times? Same energy for that?

What exactly has Libs of TikTok done besides post exact quotes and accurate stories from the Libs? They have only reported, never invited and definitely never called to violence. They just present the left using their own words

 

[85SugarVol]

would this guy be liable, if someone took action on his rhetoric?

Doubtful. I think that’d be a pretty big stretch.

 

[85SugarVol]

Not a threat against a specific person. Makes it vague and not punishable by government. We should error far on the side of protecting rights over the other side.

Hear Hear. We should be preserving Liberty.

 

[NashVol11]

would this guy be liable, if someone took action on his rhetoric?

What exactly has Libs of TikTok done besides post exact quotes and accurate stories from the Libs? They have only reported, never invited and definitely never called to violence. They just present the left using their own words

There have been probably hundreds of bomb threats and other threats against the schools/libraries/teachers/etc they keep farming outrage about, each time immediately after they do it

 

[EasternVol]

You’re every bit as tribal as anyone here.
You clearly don’t care about translation or source till it is a problem for your tribe. Yes the translation is accurate and he’s expressed it more than once. It also fits with the group who shot their own people fleeing the war because they wanted to keep them in harm’s way.
So you want Israel to care about the people who attacked them and are being used as shields, even though their leaders are on record waiting them to die, because it makes Israel look bad?
Well that’s not tribal at all.

That first sentence is a doozy.
How are you so sure of the translation?
Oh look, another straw man. But a strange one. Yeah I would expect Israel or anyone to care about people if they're being used as human shields. You know, because they're people.
Israel doesn't need any help looking bad. They manage that very well all by themselves.

 

[volfanhill]

That first sentence is a doozy.
How are you so sure of the translation?
Oh look, another straw man. But a strange one. Yeah I would expect Israel or anyone to care about people if they're being used as human shields. You know, because they're people.
Israel doesn't need any help looking bad. They manage that very well all by themselves.

What countries during war do they look worse than?

 

[EasternVol]

We got pulled into the Middle East in the 1790s with Barbary Conflict. We weren't looking for it, but they started it.

People forget that Islam has always been about Global Jihad and Expansion.

They started wars with the Byzantine Empire and Sassanid Persia and overran both. They invaded the Kingdom of the Visigoths in Iberia and took it over. They invaded France but got their butts kicked by Charles Martel at Tours.

They spent almost 1000 years trying to take over Anatolia until the Ottomans finally did it and took Constantinople which lead to brutal Muslim conquest/oppression of the various peoples in the Balkans. They were only stopped at Vienna which they besieged twice.

They have ruthlessly expanded constantly on our ancestors. To the Arab World, America (regardless of how we see ourselves) are still Christian Franks and the enemy.

Interesting. Now do one for Christianity.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Right next to a sign that says “JEWS FOR A FREE PALESTINE” lmfao. Can’t decide which is more embarrassing between this and the “stabbing”

WTF??? I'm confused... what is this? Was this an attempt to provoke someone to attack her and she gain some clout chasing cred???

 

[EasternVol]

What countries during war do they look worse than?

There's Britain in Ireland and Palestine. Probably France in Algeria. Generally us in Vietnam.

 

[volfanhill]

There's Britain in Ireland and Palestine. Probably France in Algeria. Generally us in Vietnam.

So in general they are like most in war. Well that doesn't explain the outrage

 

[EasternVol]

So in general they are like most in war. Well that doesn't explain the outrage

They're worse than those I listed. That was an answer to 'who are they worse than?'.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

it is inciting violence..you shouldnt get to say kill people, and everyone knows if some perp commits violence and was influenced by this tweet, dude will go down.

Unless the perp says khalamani (sp) sent me, it’s hard to prove the connection between him and a thousand other protestors who want violence committed.
Take the unlucky girl who wanted the council murdered. That’s very specific and defined and she picked up charges.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Pro Hamas/ Palestinian protesters are just the next antifa. Wash rinse repeat.

 

[EasternVol]

Pro Hamas/ Palestinian protesters are just the next antifa. Wash rinse repeat.

So far they're not violent though, except for an imaginary eye stabbing.

 

[Orangeslice13]

. Yeah I would expect Israel or anyone to care about people if they're being used as human shields. You know, because they're people.

and yet you’ve never said a thing to condemn Hamas for doing it.

Strange

 

[FLVOL_79]

Honest question; if you would have been in charge of the Israeli government on the morning of 08 October, what would you have done differently to ensure the safety of you people?

carpet bombed all of "Palestine" years before.

 

[0nelilreb]

I just vote Israel in that as well. I don't think they're an ally or non-hostile

I’ll bite , why don’t you consider Israel an ally ? They are hostile when they have to be , but as long as they are willing to leave that mosque on the Temple Mount , id argue that they want peace more than hostilities. It’s a unique situation that’s not happening anywhere else in the world so

 

[Orangeslice13]

carpet bombed all of "Palestine" years before.

That would have happened in the past when Israel was attacked but the rest of the world (us) wouldn’t mind their own business. People still bitch about Israel not giving back the staging ground they were attacked from.

When this is over there will be no Gaza Strip and there will likely be no West Bank.
From the river to the sea Israel will be….a freely elected democracy.

 

[McDad]

That would have happened in the past when Israel was attacked but the rest of the world (us) wouldn’t mind their own business. People still bitch about Israel not giving back the staging ground they were attacked from.

When this is over there will be no Gaza Strip and there will likely be no West Bank.
From the river to the sea Israel will be….a freely elected democracy.

That kinda talk will upset the Philistines.

 

[Orangeslice13]

That kinda talk will upset the Philistines.

There’s a huge difference between what I think is happening and how I’d handle it if it was my decision

 

[McDad]

There’s a huge difference between what I think is happening and how I’d handle it if it was my decision

Understood.

 

[jp1]

Interesting. Now do one for Christianity.

What did he say that you disagree with or isnt true? How about starting there.

 

[Orangeslice13]

That kinda talk will upset the Philistines.

But honestly there’s a lot of people it would upset

ammorites, Moabites, Hyabites, MosquitoBites …..