TNVOL68
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Martin had an elite defense to counter his <60% completion percentage. I highly doubt a comparable showing by Milton with a similar defense to this year will produce that same result.
That is not to say I don't think he could produce better than that and be the guy, but rather just refuting the Tee Martin comparison.
We have seen him continuously over throw receivers for two years now and will never forget that skip out of bounds last year.
If he is the starter from the beginning to the end of next season, our record may reflect JG’s record.
It was a GREAT season on levels and when you consider where we were 18 months ago; I call it an ELITE turnaround. As Heupel said before “I want to be as good as we can as quick as we can”. I’d say he did a hell of job—we are back and the defense will continue to get stronger and deeper.Not sure about "elite". Good season though. And we were never "irrelevant".
As far as Milton is concerned I recall Tee Martin stepping up the next year winning it all after Peyton left so gotta give the guy a chance
They didnt sniff the playoff tho, they didnt have any quality wins other than Clemson really and they didnt have any of the buzz around them that we've had this season, two completely different situations imo.Pitt went 10-2 in the regular season last year and had a receiver win the Bilitnikoff, few here would have called them elite. Like I said, if we finish 11-2 and in the Top 6, I think it'd be fair to say that's an elite season. If we finish 10-3, it's a good season and a step in the right direction.
The next "elite" season we have will be the first since 1998.It was a GREAT season on levels and when you consider where we were 18 months ago; I call it an ELITE turnaround. As Heupel said before “I want to be as good as we can as quick as we can”. I’d say he did a hell of job—we are back and the defense will continue to get stronger and deeper.
I guess its all perspective, we were in the headlines as much as Georgia, Bama, Ohio State, whoever this year, we were in the playoff running, we had a Heisman candidate till very late in the year, we had a Biletnikoff winner and C.O.T.Y winner, I dont think in 98 we actually had those kind of achievements albeit the ultimate achievement was attained, the whole point of the post was not we are a elite program again but just that its nice to be in the same conversation with the elites again like we were in years past.The next "elite" season we have will be the first since 1998.
Goin off memory and I glanced back at their schedule and wins, they played no one but Clemson and Wake Forest that was ranked, they played us but Hooker hadnt even taken over yet in that game, idk, tell me what im missing, also they ended the year ranked 13th with a loss in their bowl.If you say so.
If elite has nothing to do with on field results, then yes. We recieved elite media attention. I have to agree. A couple of nice awards too. Next year for the elite wins.I guess its all perspective, we were in the headlines as much as Georgia, Bama, Ohio State, whoever this year, we were in the playoff running, we had a Heisman candidate till very late in the year, we had a Biletnikoff winner and C.O.T.Y winner, I dont think in 98 we actually had those kind of achievements albeit the ultimate achievement was attained, the whole point of the post was not we are a elite program again but just that its nice to be in the same conversation with the elites again like we were in years past.
Yea, thats all I was sayin, its just nice to be back in the conversation with the power players again, its nice to have our guys recognized again, to be one of the teams that get talked about. Year in year out its the same teams getting all the attention but we got our share this year and its felt good and long overdue.If elite has nothing to do with on field results, then yes. We recieved elite media attention. I have to agree. A couple of nice awards too. Next year for the elite wins.
Pickett was a heisman contender. Overall last year was a better year for college football from a rankings perspective. There are less 1 and 2 loss teams this year than I can ever remember. Maybe it’s parity, maybe it’s just a weird year.They didnt sniff the playoff tho, they didnt have any quality wins other than Clemson really and they didnt have any of the buzz around them that we've had this season, two completely different situations imo.
That's probably about where we will end up ranked if we lose our bowl. Also Pitt did win their conference last year. Look, we've had a good season, a huge step in the right direction, but Ole Miss and Pitt didn't have elite seasons last year despite a similar record to our team this year and only the coke bottle think orange colored glasses you are looking through are making you think we had an "elite" season this year if we finish 10-3. We went 2-2 against the teams who ended up being ranked in the Top 25. 10-2 Bama was a good win even if it wasn't a vintage Alabama team, LSU has 4 losses. We thought we had more good wins at one time than we had, Florida, Kentucky, et al., ended up sucking.Goin off memory and I glanced back at their schedule and wins, they played no one but Clemson and Wake Forest that was ranked, they played us but Hooker hadnt even taken over yet in that game, idk, tell me what im missing, also they ended the year ranked 13th with a loss in their bowl.
We're looking thru different lenses of the coke bottle thick orange colored glasses, we havent been in the National spotlight in forever but this year when they talked about the top teams we were in the conversation, when they talked Heisman we were in the conversation, when they talked about top receiver in the nation we were in that conversation, when they talk about top offensive coaches were in the conversation, I mean the list goes on and on so im not focused so much on how the season played out but more on the accomplishments and media attention we havent been getting but other teams have and it does feel good to be in the same conversation with those teams, you are correct there is work to be done but dang lets enjoy the body of work they did this year, it was pretty impressive.That's probably about where we will end up ranked if we lose our bowl. Also Pitt did win their conference last year. Look, we've had a good season, a huge step in the right direction, but Ole Miss and Pitt didn't have elite seasons last year despite a similar record to our team this year and only the coke bottle think orange colored glasses you are looking through are making you think we had an "elite" season this year if we finish 10-3. We went 2-2 against the teams who ended up being ranked in the Top 25. 10-2 Bama was a good win even if it wasn't a vintage Alabama team, LSU has 4 losses. We thought we had more good wins at one time than we had, Florida, Kentucky, et al., ended up sucking.
Relevant is the word you are looking for I think. We were relevant this year. And it was nice. If we finish 11-2 and in the Top 6, I even think it'd be fair to say we had an elite season, though we need to string several together to legit get back in the elite program conversation.We're looking thru different lenses of the coke bottle thick orange colored glasses, we havent been in the National spotlight in forever but this year when they talked about the top teams we were in the conversation, when they talked Heisman we were in the conversation, when they talked about top receiver in the nation we were in that conversation, when they talk about top offensive coaches were in the conversation, I mean the list goes on and on so im not focused so much on how the season played out but more on the accomplishments and media attention we havent been getting but other teams have and it does feel good to be in the same conversation with those teams, you are correct there is work to be done but dang lets enjoy the body of work they did this year, it was pretty impressive.
That is what I would agree with - relevant. Now the question is what happens next year stay relevant or tick down due to trying to replace what we lose this year.Relevant is the word you are looking for I think. We were relevant this year. And it was nice. If we finish 11-2 and in the Top 6, I even think it'd be fair to say we had an elite season, though we need to string several together to legit get back in the elite program conversation.
imagine think being in top 5 in the country and one of the top ten winningest coaches isn’t elite