It's official: NCAA agrees to end transfer rules permanently

[WoodsmanVol]

It's more about the idea of commitment and loyalty to to a group of coaches and teammates, and us fans.

BS, coaches aren't necessarily loyal. NFL comes calling, a coach swallows his buyout cause he's getting more money, and walks away. Another college offers more money or position upgrade, coach walks away. Sometimes mid-season, sometimes just before a bowl game. So if you're going to talk loyalty, don't speak about it with a forked tongue.

 

[McDad]

The NLI is a binding agreement between a prospective student-athlete and an NLI member institution.

• A prospective student-athlete agrees to attend the institution full-time for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters).
• The institution agrees to provide athletics financial aid for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters).

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NCAA says, "not so fast, my friend".

 

[McDad]

Y'all understand that athletic scholarships are on a yearly renewal, right? The athlete is not guaranteed a four year scholarship. So if the institution can revoke a scholarship, I don't see why the athlete should not be able to revoke their commitment

 

[McDad]

What if, just for the sake of argument, after the newness of the ability to transfer wears off this actually improves the game and keeps athletes who have the attitude of giving their all for their team in the program? While the uncommitted or weakly committed transfer away?

 

[savannahfan]

You're going to see contracts with players soon.

Contracts = LAWYERS!!
I know they have always had their hand in this pie, but know when all is said and done they will be like the house in a 9 ball pool game. When no one has any money to bet with the house man will be standing off to the side smiling.

 

[WillisWG]

Y'all understand that athletic scholarships are on a yearly renewal, right? The athlete is not guaranteed a four year scholarship. So if the institution can revoke a scholarship, I don't see why the athlete should not be able to revoke their commitment

If there was only a process to do that....oh wait

NLI Release and Appeal

www.nationalletter.org

 

[n_huffhines]

It's more about the idea of commitment and loyalty to to a group of coaches and teammates, and us fans.

If we fans were loyal to the kids, I'd agree with you. At least half of us are a-holes who will turn on them at the drop of a hat.

 

[jeff1vol]

Well when the coaches have the freedom to up and leave at any moment it's only right.

Maybe that should change too. Most coaches have contracts with terms, right? Maybe both schools and coaches should be required to fulfill contract terms. No more buyouts, etc. Both agree to 5 years... it's FIVE years. Then the athletes will have security that the coach will be there until the contract is fulfilled at minimum.

 

[pimo1]

Maybe you've been under a rock the last 100 years or so but they do

its called a buyout. you might think coaches can just bounce anytime they want but its rarely that simple.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

You can dislike it from a competitive standpoint, but still feel that players have the right to transfer. I don’t care what Jay Bilas or anyone else who agrees w/ him says, college athletes that are on full scholarship to play whatever sport are not the same as regular students, they’re just not. There are tons more resources that are poured into them before they even arrive to campus, many times when they are still Juniors and seniors in high school. Once they arrive on campus they have special living arrangements, extra academic help in the form of special advising, extra tutoring etc… they have many more resources to nutrition. The list can go on, so no I don’t view them as regular students and for the most part they don’t view themselves as regular students . I think the portal has been glorified bc for every Hendon Hooker or Joe Burrow story there are hundreds of people that just linger out in the portal w/o a landing spot. I get that if you’ve put in the work and you’ve stuck it out for a few years and you need a fresh start. However, I think it does a real disservice to a lot of others who think they are deserving of something that they haven’t yet earned and then they up and leave.

 

[DonDiego]

Well when the coaches have the freedom to up and leave at any moment it's only right.

How do they have the freedom to up and leave at any time? All coaches are under contract, and if they up and leave, their new athletic department pays a big buyout in most cases. Maybe there should be a buyout clause put into players' contracts (which should be coming. Crap, even the NFL has rules governing free agency.

 

[Eastknox865]

its called a buyout. you might think coaches can just bounce anytime they want but its rarely that simple.

The buyout doesn't stop them from leaving genius the other school pays it and the coach leaves. Stop trying to find something to be right about. Coaches leave whenever they want. Name one coach that wanted to leave but didn't because of a buyout

 

[teeball]

It's not a National Letter of Obligation.

What is the purpose of an NLI in your mind? If players can disregard the conditions of the NLI do colleges still have to abide by the agreement?

 

[Remy]

The U.S. Department of Justice reached a settlement with the NCAA that will permanently bar the organization from restricting athletes’ transfer eligibility, it was announced Thursday.

A consent decree announced Thursday makes that policy change permanent, allowing athletes to transfer an unlimited number of times without penalty. This means college athletes are the ultimate free agents of the now professional world of college football.

I hate this so much.

NCAA agrees to end transfer rules permanently

I’m on the other end of the scale from you. Athletic administrators and coaches routinely change to other institutions at the drop of a hat. Yet somehow the product or athletes that take the field and play the games were expected to be restricted? It’s been unjust for many many years, and many many athletes were dealt with unfairly during those times. I’m happy this great wrong has been made right finally.

 

[volmandu]

I feel your position but to me “commitment and loyalty,” never existed. It’s an ideal we should strive for, but let’s be honest are the fans committed to the players the same way we want them to be committed to us? No.

Fans will rip a player on the internet so quick for the smallest perceived mistake. Coaches will cut a player in a heart beat if it suits their goals.

Same as us regular folks and our job. A company isn’t your “family,” if it was then why would they go to great lengths to cut every dollar you earn for the interests of supporting their bottom line? Why do we have so many layoffs? I’m on a rant bc many make the loyalty argument but where in society is that actually practiced? It’s a one sided “be loyal to me but I don’t have to be loyal to you.” Stop it. Let’s be real. This is a good thing.

Can we please pin this somewhere. This is what every fan needs to hear.

 

[JohnWardForever]

The U.S. Department of Justice reached a settlement with the NCAA that will permanently bar the organization from restricting athletes’ transfer eligibility, it was announced Thursday.

A consent decree announced Thursday makes that policy change permanent, allowing athletes to transfer an unlimited number of times without penalty. This means college athletes are the ultimate free agents of the now professional world of college football.

I hate this so much.

NCAA agrees to end transfer rules permanently

Although I hate the ncaa, This signals the end of College Football as we have known it. It certainly puts more pressure on the Coaches to be sure they know who they are recruiting.. So now that the NIL players are employees, will the Schools be allowed to sign them to sign them to binding contracts? Boy, what a can of worms.

 

[pimo1]

The buyout doesn't stop them from leaving genius the other school pays it and the coach leaves. Stop trying to find something to be right about. Coaches leave whenever they want. Name one coach that wanted to leave but didn't because of a buyout

Incorrect. Your own explanation spelled it out. Buyouts mean the coach can leave if his buyout is low enough and the other school is ok paying for it that's not them leaving anytime they want. your whole statement is 'I can go out anytime I want as long as my wife lets me and someone gives me a ride'.

It's just not true at all.

 

[JohnWardForever]

I feel your position but to me “commitment and loyalty,” never existed. It’s an ideal we should strive for, but let’s be honest are the fans committed to the players the same way we want them to be committed to us? No.

Fans will rip a player on the internet so quick for the smallest perceived mistake. Coaches will cut a player in a heart beat if it suits their goals.

Same as us regular folks and our job. A company isn’t your “family,” if it was then why would they go to great lengths to cut every dollar you earn for the interests of supporting their bottom line? Why do we have so many layoffs? I’m on a rant bc many make the loyalty argument but where in society is that actually practiced? It’s a one sided “be loyal to me but I don’t have to be loyal to you.” Stop it. Let’s be real. This is a good thing.

Obviously you haven't encountered the right people in your life/work.

 

[Vol865]

Going to have to give them contractual obligations to keep this from getting crazier than it already is

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

And so the trash can burns.

No commitment from coaches, no commitment from players, no commitment from anyone but fans, who will be expected to show unwavering commitment no matter how many times they're pissed on.

No more NCAA rules that are illegal under federal law and defended by platitudes...

 

[Voltopia]

I understand. There's a lot of uncertainty right now. It's been said most people dislike change.
Allow me to ask a question, when changes are imminent your daily life (work, family, etc) do you tend to think the change will be worse or suck? Do you default to a negative emotion when change is on the horizon?

No, I do not.

But that said, the "people just dislike change" argument has never held any merit with me. It's just flimsy. As if the idea of any change itself, rather than the substance of the changes and their impact, is what people are responding to. "Change" is neither good nor bad. It is only change. A house burning down is, technically, only a change. Or, in the context of college football, a house with billowing black smoke coming out of the windows is, technically, only a change -- but one can see the smoke and infer that that change might not be for the better.

Now, that said, I'd say that the changes I have seen over the last ten years have not been for the better. If someone believed otherwise, then that's for them and that's their call to make. But the more mercenary nature of both coaches and players, the erosion of regional relevance, the power TV money has over the game, the obsession with turning college football into the NFL (complete with betting lines), the loss of traditional rivalries, and the continued existence of the man in the red hat, I'm pretty comfortable saying that I think these changes are not for the better.

Now, just to be clear, I'm not saying it'll ever change back. The money has changed hands. It's been sold. That's done. That doesn't make it good. Only done.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

Incorrect. Your own explanation spelled it out. Buyouts mean the coach can leave if his buyout is low enough and the other school is ok paying for it that's not them leaving anytime they want. your whole statement is 'I can go out anytime I want as long as my wife lets me and someone gives me a ride'.

It's just not true at all.

Sure it is... They can still leave if and when they want. They buyout is more about getting the coaches walking money if they get fired than it is to keep another school or the NFL from hiring them.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Does this open up the door to mid-season transfers?
Does this mean that the Transfer Portal dates go away?

 

[Eastknox865]

Incorrect. Your own explanation spelled it out. Buyouts mean the coach can leave if his buyout is low enough and the other school is ok paying for it that's not them leaving anytime they want. your whole statement is 'I can go out anytime I want as long as my wife lets me and someone gives me a ride'.

It's just not true at all.

So you woke up today refusing to be wrong no matter how wrong you are. OK man

 

[VolBallGuy]

RIP college football. I’m selfishly sad that the game of my youth is gone , but glad that free market enterprise wins the day.