It's official: NCAA agrees to end transfer rules permanently

[Voltopia]

There is a big difference between controlling things (a budget) and people (athletes).

You argued fur controlling people, then switched the topic to money as soon as you were challenged.

I never argued for controlling people, that's just a complete misrepresentation of what I said to suit whatever you're rambling about.

I said that I thought the schools would eventually use contracts (and later on, traditional employment) to regain some control over what has become an out-of-control system. As the courts have stripped most of the NCAA's authority away, it will be up to the schools to create new mechanisms to regulate their sport. I also added that it made sense for the schools to do so, as they're the ones who operate and manage the hundred million dollar programs that fund their sport. Or their business. Whatever people want to think of it as now. Either way, the schools will not sit idly by.

 

[DonDiego]

Steve Spurrier quit on SC in the middle of the season.

He quit, he didn't transfer with no consequences. Any football player can quit too.

 

[McDad]

He quit, he didn't transfer with no consequences. Any football player can quit too.

Exactly. Equity for everyone.

 

[jdogvol]

Any Vols players who will have a “restored” year of eligibility?

 

[overseasorange2]

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Undergraduate Cost of Attendance​

Key Costs* Billed by UT or Required for Class (Books, supplies, etc.)	In State	Out of State
Tuition	$11,332	$29,522
Fees	$2,152	$2,452
This is an estimate of what a student will spend on tuition and fees for the Fall and Spring semesters.
Housing This is an estimate of what a student will spend on housing and meals for the Fall and Spring semesters if they live in university housing. If the student lives off-campus, this item would be an estimate of cost and would not be billed by the university.	$8,608	$8,608
Food	$4,748	$4,748
Books, Course Materials, Supplies and Equipment	$1,598	$1,598
This is an estimate of what a student will spend on books for the Fall and Spring semesters.
Estimated Additional Expenses* Not billed by UT; based on personal spending/needs	In State	Out of State
Transportation	$3,256	$3,256
This item is for budgeting purposes only and will not be billed to you.
Miscellaneous Personal Expenses (Based on personal spending habits)	$3,042	$3,042
This item is for budgeting purposes only and will not be billed to you.
Loan Fees	$92	$92
This is an estimate of what the average student spends in federal loan origination fee.
Total (Key costs plus estimated additional expenses)	$34,828	$53,318

So with Tuition, Fees, Housing and books. The athlete is saving around $23,000/year by playing football. Not too shabby.......

 

[Mccage]

Whatever. I'm just going to show up on Saturdays and cheer for the Vols. I no longer care how the sausage is made. College football deserves whatever happens to it.

Bout sums it up

 

[VOLstuckinKY2]

Contracts = LAWYERS!!
I know they have always had their hand in this pie, but know when all is said and done they will be like the house in a 9 ball pool game. When no one has any money to bet with the house man will be standing off to the side smiling.

Wait 'til the Tax Man comes looking for his 38%....

 

[Mccage]

Does this mean they can transfer in the middle of the season?

 

[turbovol]

The U.S. Department of Justice reached a settlement with the NCAA that will permanently bar the organization from restricting athletes’ transfer eligibility, it was announced Thursday.

A consent decree announced Thursday makes that policy change permanent, allowing athletes to transfer an unlimited number of times without penalty. This means college athletes are the ultimate free agents of the now professional world of college football.

I hate this so much.

NCAA agrees to end transfer rules permanently

If various rules were too restrictive in the past, the exact opposite is the case now. No rules at all! Anything goes. The three-time transfer is now pretty common. Can we make it 4 transfers in 4 years? Absolutely! "Coach hurt my feelings." "Not playing enough." "Playing well but they're not paying me enough." "Got gum on the front seat of my new Benz and I"m mad." "My agent visited and he said the food could be better elsewhere." "Somebody saw me smoking weed and gave me funny look."

 

[37620VOL]

Wait 'til the Tax Man comes looking for his 38%....

38%???

 

[allstar34bd]

it’ll all be over soon boys and girls. College football is done for.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

I think it’s kind of crazy from a competitive standpoint to have unlimited free agency and uncapped $. There’s no other level of competitive team sports that practices this. It’s bad for the sport. It’s forcing more and more good coaches to take jobs in lesser roles out of college sports bc the quality of life is not what it once was. Yes the $ is great, but there has to be value in work life balance and that has seen a dramatic shift recently. There has to be a give and take and this whole thing has become about whatever the athletes want they can get. The NCAA really screwed this up when didn’t see this tidal wave coming a long time ago.

I None if the above...

It's not crazy. The previous NCAA illegal monopoly and athlete exploitation was crazy.

There s no other level of this kind of sports that was an unlawful monopoly like the NCAA.

It's GREAT for the sport, especially for football.

It's not forcing coaches to do anything hut adapt or quit. Almost all are adapting.

Quality of life for coaches that make 6 or 7 figures annually isn't good? That's ludicrous.

There was no "give" in the void way, only "take". Now it's actually give and take.

The NCAA screwed it up from the outset when they decided to exploit athletes and debt them any share of the profits from their labor.

You got it wrong in all counts.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

it’ll all be over soon boys and girls. College football is done for.

Not even.

 

[McDad]

For those of you predicting college football is dead, if you have season tix, will you please sell to me instead of just letting them go....in whatever year in the future you're done of course?

 

[tennrich1]

Reading a lot of comments reminded of where I was in my life about 25 years ago. I lived, ate, and slept sports (especially UT sports). Even to the detriment of those I love the most. Such a self absorbed place to be…and I am massively ashamed of it now. After a life altering change in my heart/mind I’ve since come to realize the utter insignificance of sports. I admit I still love it. Enjoy it. Read about it and watch it daily. BUT…now given the opportunity I would 100 times more rather spend the day with my children/grandchildren than be consumed by sports and its allure to feel “fake” emotions and get gut wrenchingly upset over NIL/transfers etc. I know a lot of folks don’t get this…or even care how I feel. But let me encourage you to enjoy sports and its proclivities and not be moved to a stiff necked posture that can literally destroy your peace. And possibly to those you cherish the most. JMO

 

[volfan102455]

Does this mean they can transfer in the middle of the season?

That is coming. Can't wait until a star player decides to move to a different team in the middle of the season.

 

[volfan102455]

I guess the good thing about this is that those players who own the records at many universities will own them forever because a player is not going to stay long enough to break them.

The other thing is that the former players, you know those VFL's that provide lots of support to Tennessee football - probably going to be fewer and fewer who can claim that going forward.

 

[volfan102455]

Some of you on here obviously don't really care anything about Tennessee Football - if you did you would realize this is not a good thing at all.

 

[Delmar]

Reading a lot of comments reminded of where I was in my life about 25 years ago. I lived, ate, and slept sports (especially UT sports). Even to the detriment of those I love the most. Such a self absorbed place to be…and I am massively ashamed of it now. After a life altering change in my heart/mind I’ve since come to realize the utter insignificance of sports. I admit I still love it. Enjoy it. Read about it and watch it daily. BUT…now given the opportunity I would 100 times more rather spend the day with my children/grandchildren than be consumed by sports and its allure to feel “fake” emotions and get gut wrenchingly upset over NIL/transfers etc. I know a lot of folks don’t get this…or even care how I feel. But let me encourage you to enjoy sports and its proclivities and not be moved to a stiff necked posture that can literally destroy your peace. And possibly to those you cherish the most. JMO

Well said. Still an interest but I don’t spend near the time or energy on it that I used to. Agree on the focus on the kids and grandkids. It goes way too fast as you watch them grow.

 

[Delmar]

Some of you on here obviously don't really care anything about Tennessee Football - if you did you would realize this is not a good thing at all.

Not sure of all the effects on football but it’s not a good thing for other sports besides football and maybe men’s BB. I see them surviving at the cost of other sports. The money will go predominantly to them and some sports will be scaled back or cut entirely.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I None if the above...

It's not crazy. The previous NCAA illegal monopoly and athlete exploitation was crazy.

There s no other level of this kind of sports that was an unlawful monopoly like the NCAA.

It's GREAT for the sport, especially for football.

It's not forcing coaches to do anything hut adapt or quit. Almost all are adapting.

Quality of life for coaches that make 6 or 7 figures annually isn't good? That's ludicrous.

There was no "give" in the void way, only "take". Now it's actually give and take.

The NCAA screwed it up from the outset when they decided to exploit athletes and debt them any share of the profits from their labor.

You got it wrong in all counts.

I’m not saying that the NCAA has been right the entire time at all. Finding the right balance is currently the problem. The pendulum swung from one complete extreme to absolute other extreme. Like most things, I don’t believe in extreme one or another. I’m not saying athletes shouldn’t be compensated. I’m not saying put a cap on it. I’m saying you shouldn’t have unlimited free agency combined with a zero salary cap. I haven’t heard a single person that’s involved in college athletics that thinks the current situation is a sustainable model. Why are you seeing Power 4 head College coaches leave and take coordinator jobs in the same conference or in the NFL? Because being a head coach at a major university is not the same as when they took over. They have no idea what their roster will look like from one semester to the next. They have to constantly keep recruiting guys already on their roster . Yes they are certainly compensated well, not disputing that. I just think that we’re going to see a lot more of what we’ve seen recently with good coaches leaving the college game unless some changes are made. Again, not saying what was happening before was right, but I think there should be some sort of middle ground .

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

Some of you on here obviously don't really care anything about Tennessee Football - if you did you would realize this is not a good thing at all.

Nico called and said the sky is not falling.
Things are changing, and Tennessee is leading the charge. That is a very good thing!

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

I’m not saying that the NCAA has been right the entire time at all. Finding the right balance is currently the problem. The pendulum swung from one complete extreme to absolute other extreme. Like most things, I don’t believe in extreme one or another. I’m not saying athletes shouldn’t be compensated. I’m not saying put a cap on it. I’m saying you shouldn’t have unlimited free agency combined with a zero salary cap. I haven’t heard a single person that’s involved in college athletics that thinks the current situation is a sustainable model. Why are you seeing Power 4 head College coaches leave and take coordinator jobs in the same conference or in the NFL? Because being a head coach at a major university is not the same as when they took over. They have no idea what their roster will look like from one semester to the next. They have to constantly keep recruiting guys already on their roster . Yes they are certainly compensated well, not disputing that. I just think that we’re going to see a lot more of what we’ve seen recently with good coaches leaving the college game unless some changes are made. Again, not saying what was happening before was right, but I think there should be some sort of middle ground .

The pendulum swung from the NCAA having an illegal spurts model and exploiting athletes to them being unable to keep doing it. That is a very good thing

 

[VolFreakJosh]

You're going to see contracts with players soon.

You’re going to see more coaches opting out early too.

 

[VFL 89]

The NLI is a binding agreement between a prospective student-athlete and an NLI member institution.

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• The institution agrees to provide athletics financial aid for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters).

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Undergraduate Cost of Attendance​

Key Costs* Billed by UT or Required for Class (Books, supplies, etc.)	In State	Out of State
Tuition	$11,332	$29,522
Fees	$2,152	$2,452
This is an estimate of what a student will spend on tuition and fees for the Fall and Spring semesters.
Housing This is an estimate of what a student will spend on housing and meals for the Fall and Spring semesters if they live in university housing. If the student lives off-campus, this item would be an estimate of cost and would not be billed by the university.	$8,608	$8,608
Food	$4,748	$4,748
Books, Course Materials, Supplies and Equipment	$1,598	$1,598
This is an estimate of what a student will spend on books for the Fall and Spring semesters.
Estimated Additional Expenses* Not billed by UT; based on personal spending/needs	In State	Out of State
Transportation	$3,256	$3,256
This item is for budgeting purposes only and will not be billed to you.
Miscellaneous Personal Expenses (Based on personal spending habits)	$3,042	$3,042
This item is for budgeting purposes only and will not be billed to you.
Loan Fees	$92	$92
This is an estimate of what the average student spends in federal loan origination fee.
Total (Key costs plus estimated additional expenses)	$34,828	$53,318

If this is the case and they can make money (NIL) while being an athlete plus leave whenever they decide, I would rather just have them pay to attend college anyway. Just like a normal student. Or maybe reimburse the university with some of the NIL money if they sign a deal. I know many athletes can't really afford to pay and that it's not fair to all athletes but honestly, they should be there be get an education and degree. Something they can use to earn a living when all else fails. The athletic training, fitness benefits and hope to become a professionally paid athlete is really just icing on the cake as I see it. Only a small percentage of athletes will ever make a decent living out of their sport after college. Athletes must realize they need a backup plan in case they don't make it to the pros due to injury, lack of talent, etc. Chasing NIL dollars around from one school to another is another risky and poor strategy in my opinion. If it does pay off, many athletes will simply blow their fortunes and be worse off because they ignore financial advice or don't get it in the first place. I really have no sympathy for those pros who make millions and piss it all way because they don't value what they have.