It's time for a change

#51
#51
A good possibility we finish the season with 18 wins or less.
Regardless, LV fans have to make a decision. Is this acceptable or is it not? If the latter, then what is? This remains the ill-defined but central problem in the Fire Harper affair.
 
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#52
#52
It’s all about the talent on the floor. There just isn’t enough. That doesn’t look like it will change under the current regime.
I agree you've got to have talent but from what I've seen it's the coaching too. Too many times it didn't look like the coach had the team prepared, working together, and didn't see the coach step in and get their attention. As a fan, why watch when the chances are they're going to lose most of the time with no constructive change in sight. Gotta go after the best coach and pay the man/lady. Someone said UT would never hire a man for the LVs, well just dunk your head in the sand. Geno seems like he worked out ok. Don't get me wrong I'm just citing him as an example. Personally I can't stand that arrogant SOB. But no one can deny his results. Do you want a coach that looks good in heels or one that wins regardless of gender? Hire the best whoever it is!
 
#53
#53
Is 12-7 acceptable for a program with the history of the Lady Vols? This isn't kjh's 1st year. The team isn't even in the top 25...and they're going nowhere. This is an embarrassment. Not if you're Austin Peay or something....but for the Lady Vols? Kellie is cute...she's nice....pleasant personality etc etc but she has this program going nowhere. She has failed with no real hope on the horizon. Why do some of you find this acceptable? She can't recruit...can't coach...can't get this program in the right direction. UCONN would kill us. We don't have a prayer of beating South Carolina or any of the top teams. Kjh has been an abject failure. Remember when we used to be an elite program? Those days are long gone and kjh has made us worse and worse every year. Her time is way past due. She tried...and failed miserably. Bring back the pride this program once had. Right now we're just a middling has been going nowhere.
 
#54
#54
I don’t get why people are calling for Kelly Harper‘s job. Makes no sense to me. The team is 5–2 and sitting at what… Fourth in the SEC? They could get hot and move up from there.

Yes…dawn staley is the new Gino but they can have her. I’ll take our 5-2 record with an awesome human being as coach (who’s even a VFL) all day over having a racists hypocrite for a coach.
 
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I don’t get why people are calling for Kelly Harper‘s job. Makes no sense to me. The team is 5–2 and sitting at what… Fourth in the SEC? They could get hot and move up from there.

Yes…dawn staley is the new Gino but they can have her. I’ll take our 5-2 record with an awesome human being as coach (who’s even a VFL) all day over having a racists hypocrite for a coach.
Imagine actually typing this and hitting reply. Lmao.
 
#58
#58
Here is a few names since the speculation has started. Lisa Fortier, Carly Thibauh Dudonis, KIm English former Assistant under Barnes, Karl Smesko has won big .848 winning percentage, Candace Parker could recruit bigtime never coached has the knowledge.
 
#59
#59
Nothing has changed in and after the transition from the Warlick era to the present. Same turnovers, same lack of hustle from the majority of players, same lack of fundamentals such as boxing out, communication, and passing. INABILITY TO MAKE LAY UPS and point blank shots. LACK of in game adjustments, play calling AND player development. The 50-50 balls are now 80-20 in favor of the opponent(see lack of hustle). Probably a lot more than what was mentioned. As the late great John Ward said .... "It's time."














As the late great John Ward said ...... "It's time."
 
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5-2 in the SEC, never finished below 3rd in the SEC. Back to back Sweet 16’s and we want our coach fired…. Ok… DW is not that emotional I would hope.
You failed to mention we haven’t won a damn thing of any consequence. Maybe you haven’t watched every game, but this team is not well coached. It is the old slippery slope, things are going to continue to regress,and never progress
 
#62
#62
She's never been the one to lead UT to a championship. The question remains: Does the administration really care about women's basketball?
 
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#64
Is 12-7 acceptable for a program with the history of the Lady Vols? This isn't kjh's 1st year. The team isn't even in the top 25...and they're going nowhere. This is an embarrassment. Not if you're Austin Peay or something....but for the Lady Vols? Kellie is cute...she's nice....pleasant personality etc etc but she has this program going nowhere. She has failed with no real hope on the horizon. Why do some of you find this acceptable? She can't recruit...can't coach...can't get this program in the right direction. UCONN would kill us. We don't have a prayer of beating South Carolina or any of the top teams. Kjh has been an abject failure. Remember when we used to be an elite program? Those days are long gone and kjh has made us worse and worse every year. Her time is way past due. She tried...and failed miserably. Bring back the pride this program once had. Right now we're just a middling has been going nowhere.
I'm not sure about the UCONN would kill us statement. We lost to ND by 5 without RJ, and the current UCONN team lost on their homecourt to ND by 15. Who would you want to bring in to replace KJH, knowing money would be an issue?
 
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From what I've seen of Danny White, he has both balls to make a big hire and brains not to do anything rash like fire KJH mid season. The recent announcement of the upgrade to the softball facilities show he's bought in to women's sports. I think he truly wants to bring the WBB program up to standard. But I don't think he'll make the change until he's sure he has the right replacement lined up.
 
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I'm not sure about the UCONN would kill us statement. We lost to ND by 5 without RJ, and the current UCONN team lost on their homecourt to ND by 15. Who would you want to bring in to replace KJH, knowing money would be an issue?
UConn has something against us that you can’t put in a stat. Expect to win vs hope to win. In this series, they expect to win and have the mental advantage.

Comparing the two games of us and them vs. ND would not impact regardless of who played or didn’t. If I recall, ND was down a few starters as well when they came to Knoxville. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
 
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#68
#68
Go Hire Carolyn Peck! I bet she would do wonders for the LV program

and when she didn't........?
She and Stephanie White were disasters at Vanderbilt.

Things D White needs to cross of the list immediately: a former LV, esp one with little or no coaching experience; a celeb hire like Peck w little recent coaching success; an up and comer from a mid major (we already have one of those). Go big or stay home on this one, whenever it happens, it has to be right.
 
#69
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I'm not sure about the UCONN would kill us statement. We lost to ND by 5 without RJ, and the current UCONN team lost on their homecourt to ND by 15. Who would you want to bring in to replace KJH, knowing money would be an issue?
Not sure the transitive property works too much, but ND also had Citron for UConn game, and she scored 15 points. She was out injured in our game, just like Rickea.

On your other question, I think there are some viable candidates out there that could either recruit well or recruit to their system and have some success. College athletics is a business, and you can’t be scared as a business to change. A new hire could be a risk of failure or it could succeed, but if the status quo isn’t working, then you can’t be paralyzed out of fear to risk making a change bc it might fail. If Kellie is hitting everything that Danny wants and is fine with the job she is doing, then she’ll stay. If she isn’t, he will take a calculated risk that he can improve the business.
 
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I don’t get why people are calling for Kelly Harper‘s job. Makes no sense to me. The team is 5–2 and sitting at what… Fourth in the SEC? They could get hot and move up from there.
Texas A&M and Ole Miss are fine teams that are likely going to make the NCAA Tournament. The problem is that this program used to demolish teams like that. Now, losing those games without having played SCAR and LSU yet, not to mention having endured an MTSU loss, has this Lady Vol squad in danger of missing the NCAA Tournament for the first time ever.

If the Lady Vols squeak into the dance this season, which will likely take running the table aside from SCAR and LSU, they've accomplished the absolute bare minimum which is very embarrassing for one of the few programs that cares about this sport.
 
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From what I've seen of Danny White, he has both balls to make a big hire and brains not to do anything rash like fire KJH mid season. The recent announcement of the upgrade to the softball facilities show he's bought in to women's sports. I think he truly wants to bring the WBB program up to standard. But I don't think he'll make the change until he's sure he has the right replacement lined up.
He wants all sports to be successful. Whoever would think he doesn’t care or wouldn’t care about women’s sports isn’t running a company I’d trust.
 
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#72
#72
He wants all sports to be successful. Whoever would thinks he doesn’t care or wouldn’t care about women’s sports isn’t running a company I’d trust.
From what I've seen from him so far, I trust him to do the right thing on WBB. It may not be quick or popular, but eventually he'll get it right.

If KJH culture was as bad as Holly's was at the end, and the right candidate was available, it might happen after this year. But I don't think either of those is the case.
 
#73
#73
From what I've seen from him so far, I trust him to do the right thing on WBB. It may not be quick or popular, but eventually he'll get it right.

If KJH culture was as bad as Holly's was at the end, and the right candidate was available, it might happen after this year. But I don't think either of those is the case.
Yeah, the culture is for sure better. This season and Holly’s last one seem to be mirroring each other a lot without the culture issues. We didnt hit 20 wins that season, had double digit losses, worried we might not make it in, and we barely did with a low seed and lost first round. Kellie can avoid some of that, but it will take a lot of effort.
 
#75
#75
I haven't watched many Lady Vols game since KJH was hired, but the one thing that is glaring. Holly was fired because of lack of improvement, and even regression during her time here. I had hopes KJH might turn things around, but that isn't happening.

Knowing how prepared AD White is, I would imagine he has a short list of coaches he would consider. I think it's becoming obvious that the team is not performing at a championship level. I don't know if it's current or not, but MTSU is 16-4, which isn't bad, but if you look at the conference they're in, it doesn't strike fear in my heart.
 

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