Its time for a new era in UT football.

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I'm not normally one to be outspoken like this about the coaching staff, but it is time for a change.

I'm sick of Phillip Fulmer smiling after every bad play. I'm sick of Randy Sanders' play calling. I'm sick of John Chavis' under achieving defense. I'm sick of it all.

It's time for a change in Knoxville and I'll be the one on top of the dog pile. You don't struggle against Kentucky and Vanderbilt 2 games in a row and smile through it all - ala Fulmer.

Tennessee don't have the killer instinct they had in the 90's anymore. They haven't had it since the national championship in '98. Thats when DC jumped ship for Ole Miss, BTW.

It's time for a new era.

Fulmer does not prepare this team like he used to. Not to mention Randy Sanders is the worst OC in the SEC if not the nation.

It's time for an offensive mind to make his way into Knoxville. Fulmer and his staff need to pack their bags and get out of Knoxville. The sooner the better, IMO.

Flame me all you want, but I had to get that off my chest.
 
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AMEN !!!!!!!!! the hog-jowl coach is responsible for all we endure weekly. Watching them play makes me :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
 
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I know how you feel...

Struggling against Vandy and having to make a breathtaking come from behind victory over Kentucky are unacceptable.
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 27, 2004 3:26 PM
AMEN !!!!!!!!! the hog-jowl coach is responsible for all we endure weekly. Watching them play makes me  :puke:  :puke:  :puke:  :puke:
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NOW who's slandering?? ;)
 
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Acouple of more points:

They've been nothing but decent since Tee Martin left.

Yeah, they made an SEC Championship Game appearence in '01, but we all know how that turned out. They've lost 2 consecutive bowl games by a large margin to Clemson and Maryland. That just don't get it done with the Vol Nation - I'm sorry. Let's not also forget the Nebraska losses in the "love fest" era in the 90's.

In the 90's Fulmer and his staff could do no wrong aside from those Nebraska poundings. Constant top 10 finishes, SEC and National Titles - now (00-04) they are nothing but wrong.

I miss the offensive power house. I miss the pounding, bust you in the face defense of the mid to late 90's.

IMO, the game has passed Fulmer and Co. by.
 
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DONSARGEGOLF is slandering and will continue on every front until change is made!!!!! :rocks: :rocks: :rocks: :rocks: :rocks: :rocks:
 
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No argument here. This has been the most poorly coached ill prepared team in the nation the past month or so. For that matter, they haven't played a really good game since the Georgia game. I've felt for years that CPF is a brilliant recruiter, but an average coach at best. When a team with top 10 talent comes out week after week and barely squeakes by against bottom feeder teams like Ole Miss, Kentucky, and Vandy, and loses to a less than impressive Notre Dame team, the only thing you can say is that it's lousy coaching. The defense is fundamentally unsound. They are consistently out of position, there are way too many missed tackles. That goes with not being mentally prepared to play. What happened to the defense that shut down Georgia cold? They havent been back since. I thought the offense might go in the :flush: after losing Ainge, but they have played fairly well. The defense absolutely SUCKS! It's time for Chavis to go. Sorry for the rant, but I'm pissed right now.
 
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I'm just glad we won. My mother-in-law, a die-hard UK fan, was here and she was REALLY making me mad. The come from behind win was SUH-WEET to me!!


:)
 
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Guys just for fun why don't you save it til after next week. Most likely we get killed but if Fulmer and the staff somehow pull it out all will be well. I don't like close games any more than the next guy but a win is a win is a win and as long as Fulmer keeps pulling them out then it's fine by me. It's hard to watch but all anyone will remember 10 years from now is we won the SEC East and played in the SECC game. We finished the regular season at 9-2 which is better than most predicted. Now if we were 5-6 I'd be right there with you.

For that matter Fulmer and Sanders called a pretty good offensive game if you ask me. How about the WR screen pass from Fayton to Meachem? Heck our 3rd string QB passed for over 300 yards and Houston ran for over 100. Not Fulmers fault that RC threw 2 picks. That is going to happen with inexperience.

As for the defense, I am not real sure what's going on. As anyone who knows Chavis defenses knows this is not typical. We are thin in the secondary and we knew that coming into the season.

Granted it was ugly but WE WON THE GAME. Let's wait until we do a little worse then 9-2 and a SECC game appearance with 3 QB's with no experience before we clean house.

:peace2: :peace2:
 
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Note to last post: All that above said....this very will could be the worst team ever to win the SEC East. Georgia has to be sitting at home thinking how in the world did we lose to these guys?

 
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Nov 27, 2004 4:45 PM
Guys just for fun why don't you save it til after next week. Most likely we get killed but if Fulmer and the staff somehow pull it out all will be well. I don't like close games any more than the next guy but a win is a win is a win and as long as Fulmer keeps pulling them out then it's fine by me. It's hard to watch but all anyone will remember 10 years from now is we won the SEC East and played in the SECC game. We finished the regular season at 9-2 which is better than most predicted. Now if we were 5-6 I'd be right there with you.

For that matter Fulmer and Sanders called a pretty good offensive game if you ask me. How about the WR screen pass from Fayton to Meachem? Heck our 3rd string QB passed for over 300 yards and Houston ran for over 100. Not Fulmers fault that RC threw 2 picks. That is going to happen with inexperience.

As for the defense, I am not real sure what's going on. As anyone who knows Chavis defenses knows this is not typical. We are thin in the secondary and we knew that coming into the season.

Granted it was ugly but WE WON THE GAME. Let's wait until we do a little worse then 9-2 and a SECC game appearance with 3 QB's with no experience before we clean house.

:peace2: :peace2:
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I respect your opinion, probably more than anyone else on this board. But I have to disagree with you.

They were playing for a FG at the end of the game there after they had 2 kicks blocked earlier. That's not good coaching, IMO.

Luckily, Riggs broke it for a TD or we might be staring at 8-3.
 
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I agree, i was a little po'd when it looked like we were going for the field goal (Why was Henderson kicking today anyway?). We might have lost but we didn't. Every team has these types of games...granted usually not two in a row. I think the staff has a lot of things to work on but with that said is anybody going to be disappointed in a close Kentucky game if we beat Auburn and go to the Sugar Bowl?
 
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Nov 27, 2004 4:45 PM
As for the defense, I am not real sure what's going on. As anyone who knows Chavis defenses knows this is not typical. We are thin in the secondary and we knew that coming into the season.
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Freak,
Normally I would agree that it's not typical, and it's not, but how does it happen two weeks in a row, and against the two worst offenses in the confrence, if not two of the worst in the nation. The D in the last two weeks has made Jay Cutler and Shane Boyd look like they should be 1-2 in the Heisman voting. And that's not even counting the forth quarter collapse against SC. That's my problem. It's not a talent question, the talent is definitely there. The defense is not mentally prepared to play here lately. I don't know what's up.
 
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The flip side to this is suppose everyone got their way and Full Pilmer got the boot...who would replace him. How would recruiting go then? I think UT would have to endure 4 REALLY bad seasons before they could even come close to a 10-2 season again w/o Fulmer & co. Look at Florida, Ohio State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Nebraska, and Miss St. (and the list goes on). Much of what you see and pin on the coaching staff is lack of execution on the field. That can be coaching, but probably isn't all the time. The best thing Fulmer has done in the past few years is hire Trooper...watching him get fired up on the sidelines makes me want to run out there for a chest bump!!! If Fulmer could get one or 2 more like him out there, you'd see a different team! The Big Orange nation needs Fulmer, but other changes in the staff might just be the key (way too much talent and not enough blowouts).
 
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Vol Freak's post is why nothing changes in our formely perennial Top Ten program. He buys into that garbage the "hog-jowled coach" spews after games like this. This is always a tough game, border rival blah, blah, blah. Our fans will believe anything as long as we win but, cannot figure out why we cannot beat Oklahoma, USC and any other well coached squad.( and when did chest bumping become great coaching? Never saw Bryant,Paterno,Bowden, Neyland,Spurrier, Schembechler, Hayes.... use this as motivation. That's called jigging it up, not coaching.) :bad: :bad: :bad:
 
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Originally posted by lll Communication@Nov 27, 2004 4:48 PM
They were playing for a FG at the end of the game there after they had 2 kicks blocked earlier. That's not good coaching, IMO.
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I actually liked the play calling at the end. I didn't feel that they were playing for a FG as much as they were trying to make sure there was no time left for KY to score. I thought that was the right thing to do. We couldn't stop these guys all day, so why take the chance by leaving them a minute or two.
 
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We all have reason for concern but I agree with KDX in that it could be a lot worse. How would you like to be Nebraska and be staring at a 5-6 season? I'll bet they may be wishing they had Solich back. Fulmer is going to have to take a long hard look at things at the end of the season and figure out if staff changes need to be made but I think Chavis and Brooks are still the best two coaches on the staff. Calling for Fulmer's job at this point I think is just crazy.
 
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Originally posted by MyBloodRunnethOrange+Nov 27, 2004 5:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MyBloodRunnethOrange @ Nov 27, 2004 5:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-lll Communication@Nov 27, 2004 4:48 PM
They were playing for a FG at the end of the game there after they had 2 kicks blocked earlier. That&#39;s not good coaching, IMO.
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I actually liked the play calling at the end. I didn&#39;t feel that they were playing for a FG as much as they were trying to make sure there was no time left for KY to score. I thought that was the right thing to do. We couldn&#39;t stop these guys all day, so why take the chance by leaving them a minute or two. [/quote]
It was 3rd and 2 and they ran it up the middle.

That&#39;s where I drew my conclusion from.
 
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Originally posted by lll Communication+Nov 27, 2004 5:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lll Communication @ Nov 27, 2004 5:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by MyBloodRunnethOrange@Nov 27, 2004 5:01 PM
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@Nov 27, 2004 4:48 PM
They were playing for a FG at the end of the game there after they had 2 kicks blocked earlier. That&#39;s not good coaching, IMO.
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I actually liked the play calling at the end. I didn&#39;t feel that they were playing for a FG as much as they were trying to make sure there was no time left for KY to score. I thought that was the right thing to do. We couldn&#39;t stop these guys all day, so why take the chance by leaving them a minute or two.
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It was 3rd and 2 and they ran it up the middle.

That&#39;s where I drew my conclusion from. [/quote]
I see what you are saying, and you are probably right that CPF was playing for a FG, but I still think it was the right call to make. The way our D has played the last two weeks, I&#39;d rather play for a FG, even with the blocks, that to take a chance by leaving time on the clock.
 
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I just visited the Auburn board and whoa....are they ever laughing it up. Talkin bout puttin up 60 on the vols. I remind myself that this very scenerio is historically the Vols meat. Huge underdog...everything on the line. If I were CPF id make the team watch the bo jackson shut down game tape, let em see what fundamental tackling looks like. Sports illustrated went down to do a story on bo...ended up doin one on Tennessee. (whispers) I smell a huge upset comin :thumbsup:
 
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Originally posted by dan4vols@Nov 27, 2004 5:12 PM
I just visited the Auburn board and whoa....are they ever laughing it up. Talkin bout puttin up 60 on the vols. I remind myself that this very scenerio is historically the Vols meat. Huge underdog...everything on the line. If I were CPF id make the team watch the bo jackson shut down game tape, let em see what fundamental tackling looks like. Sports illustrated went down to do a story on bo...ended up doin one on Tennessee. (whispers) I smell a huge upset comin :thumbsup:
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I&#39;d be laughing if I were an Auburn fan too.

I hope you&#39;re right about the upset though. :rocks:
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 27, 2004 5:00 PM
Vol Freak&#39;s post is why nothing changes in our formely perennial Top Ten program. He buys into that garbage the "hog-jowled coach" spews after games like this. This is always a tough game, border rival blah, blah, blah. Our fans will believe anything as long as we win but, cannot figure out why we cannot beat Oklahoma, USC and any other well coached squad.
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Don you can blame me, the coaches, the announcers, the fans, or whoever you want if it makes you feel better. I don&#39;t remember us playing OU or USC under Fulmer. And by the way they are just the flavor of the month. It used to be the Gators or the Dogs or LSU or Miami or Florida State? Were are those programs now? My point is you can&#39;t just pick out Johnny come lately programs and say we want to be them? Were you still comparing us to Oklahoma in 97 when we won the SEC and they were 4-8? Would you still trade with Oklahoma when they were 5-6 in 98 while we were winning the National Championship? Granted Stoops has had a good run in the 6 years he has been there. He has won a total of two conference titles in a conference that is on the decline. He may get another shot at a title this year. However I am sure if you were the OU AD you would have fired him last year after they got routed by Kansas St. in the Conference title game and then lost to LSU on top of that. As for USC you have got to be kidding. Before 2002 when was the last time they even won 10 games. UH 1988. If you want to be fans of those two teams I&#39;ll be glad to point you in the direction of a couple of other message boards that you may want to check out.
 
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Originally posted by lll Communication@Nov 27, 2004 5:20 PM
The guys on CBS are laughing at Fulmer and UT.

That about sums it up.
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I saw that. :shakehead: Do we really expect anything less from ESPN. They did follow with "another 9 win season for Fulmer"

Man would it be nice to somehow beat Auburn. I would show that ESPN tape to the players all week.
 
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