IU Football Head Coach

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#126
hatvol96 said:
Nor Mark Mangino, Chuck Long, Kevin Wilson, et al. It's all about one guy who was there over a decade ago. That's why he's in such high demand now.
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so Sumlin didn't hire Holgorsen to install an offenses like Leach's?
 
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#129
hatvol96 said:
Kind of like you're still trying to figure out which year Leach won at OU?
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No he's probably trying to figure out a year he can pump up Baylor to make an argument look good, ala you trying to say a 6-6, 4 way tie with Rice, Texas, and Baylor is an accomplishment.
 
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#130
tvols75 said:
No he's probably trying to figure out a year he can pump up Baylor to make an argument look good, ala you trying to say a 6-6, 4 way tie with Rice, Texas, and Baylor is an accomplishment.
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Nothing to pump up about Baylor football since Teaff left until this year. The fools who coached between Teaff and Briles couldn't even keep Derrick Johnson and LaDainian Tomlinson at home.
 
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BUBear said:
Nothing to pump up about Baylor football since Teaff left until this year. The fools who coached between Teaff and Briles couldn't even keep Derrick Johnson and LaDainian Tomlinson at home.
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Baylor has a bright future.
 
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#133
zehr27 said:
Both those post make it VERY clear you know nothing about IU athletics.
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Several family members went to IU, including my parents. Some still live there. I was raised on it.

Stop talking out of your ass.
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#134
tvols75 said:
Let's also look at the previous coaching records of those before Leach (Leach went 84-43).

Dykes: 54-47-1
McWilliams: 38-30
Moore: 16-37-2
Dockery: 15-16-2

It takes until Sloan, who only stayed at T-Tech for 3 years from 75-77 to see some similar results.
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Yeah, and he sucked in the SEC.
 
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#135
hatvol96 said:
Leach's 10 year average against OU: 22 points. Really huge stuff. That's how you lead the nation in scoring. Oh, wait. He lead the nation in scoring by playing a nonconference schedule that Carson Newman would be embarrassed to play.
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And it's even worse considering their style of play. The defensive numbers against OU must have been atrocious.
 
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#136
A lot of average schools should be looking at Mike Leach. He won 8 or more games, 8 seasons straight. Schools like Indiana should be content with winning 8-9 games every year because any coach that hits double digit wins is leaving anyways. I highly doubt they'll ever be better than that anyways.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Yeah, and he sucked in the SEC.
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And he did at ttech outside of one 10 win season. And also pretty sure Indiana nor miami are in sec. Also pretty sure that stoops has credited Leach for a lot of his offensive philosophy... when Leach left stoops hired guys who would stick with a lot of the same elements of Leach. Sumlin hired a guy in Holgorsen to implement a Leach offense, stoops at Arizona hired Sonny dykes to implement a Leach style offense. A lot of the candidates on Texas's oc list run a Leach style offense. If he got a job like Miami they would become legitimate because he's not at a talent disadvantage and would be able to hire a stud assistant coaching staff and would have not only athletes on offense but also on defense as well. If he went to Indiana he would do the same thing he did at ttech and that's turn a mediocre program and take then to 8-9 wins with a season like 08 in there every once in awhile. You may not like Leach and I agree that he's s weird dude but to discredit his coaching is pretty ridiculous.
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doozer said:
Several family members went to IU, including my parents. Some still live there. I was raised on it.

Stop talking out of your ass.
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I went to IU. Born and raised in Indiana. You might want to try to google the Pat Knight incident. Thanks for playing.
 
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#140
There's nothing to google. They both said he kicked the chair.

You should stop.
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tvols75 said:
And he did at ttech outside of one 10 win season. And also pretty sure Indiana nor miami are in sec. Also pretty sure that stoops has credited Leach for a lot of his offensive philosophy... when Leach left stoops hired guys who would stick with a lot of the same elements of Leach. Sumlin hired a guy in Holgorsen to implement a Leach offense, stoops at Arizona hired Sonny dykes to implement a Leach style offense. A lot of the candidates on Texas's oc list run a Leach style offense. If he got a job like Miami they would become legitimate because he's not at a talent disadvantage and would be able to hire a stud assistant coaching staff and would have not only athletes on offense but also on defense as well. If he went to Indiana he would do the same thing he did at ttech and that's turn a mediocre program and take then to 8-9 wins with a season like 08 in there every once in awhile. You may not like Leach and I agree that he's s weird dude but to discredit his coaching is pretty ridiculous.
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Yeah, he's such a great coach that he's in extremely high demand for a new job. I can't wait until Tubs proves to be a better coach than Pirate Mike.
 
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#142
tvolsfan said:
Yeah, he's such a great coach that he's in extremely high demand for a new job. I can't wait until Tubs proves to be a better coach than Pirate Mike.
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did Leach not play with you enough as a little boy? why do you care so much whether or not he gets a job?
and maybe there is more going on that people dont know about that could be keeping him out of coaching right now
 
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#143
iuvol2012 said:
Im sure Kevin Sumlin had nothing to do with that offense at OU :crazy:
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Kevin Sumlin had very little to do with it. That's akin to crediting Terry Shea with the WCO. Stoops isn't a fool, he realized what Leach was running. It's also no coincidence that he realized what Wilson and Walker were doing at NW. Want to guess who Urban Meyer met with to create his offense? Wilson is largely credited with the run game and no-huddle. Watch an Oklahoma game and count how many times they run Mesh, Shallow, Y-Cross, and Y-Corner. Some coincidence that Sumlin chose a Leach disciple to run his offense at UH.
 
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#144
txvolsfangatorh8r said:
did Leach not play with you enough as a little boy? why do you care so much whether or not he gets a job?
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I don't care if he gets one or not. I'm just very thankful UT didn't hire him.
and maybe there is more going on that people dont know about that could be keeping him out of coaching right now
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I thought the fact that he was a championshipless nutjob was enough to keep him from getting a good job. Good to know there may be more.
 
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#145
The amazing thing about this thread is a "IU Football" thread has well over 100 posts!!! That's more than it would get on a IU message board..lol
 
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#147
tvolsfan said:
I don't care if he gets one or not. I'm just very thankful UT didn't hire him.

I thought the fact that he was a championshipless nutjob was enough to keep him from getting a good job. Good to know there may be more.
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He doesn't have a job because of the Craig James' son incident not because of his coaching. I too am glad we didn't get Leach. So do you think Mullen is a bad coach? He is at a place where he can't recruit well, and will more than likely never win a SEC championship. Who cares if Mike Leach doesn't have a championship? He was at freaking Texas Tech in the same division at Texas and Oklahoma. Put him in the Big 12 North and he is in a lot of championship games.
 
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I don't really care about Mullen, but his level of competition is on a different level than Leach.
 
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#149
hatvol96 said:
Bill Mallory did it for years. Then, the IU brass listened to the idiots who think Indiana should be fighting Ohio State and Michigan for Big Ten supremacy. If Terry Hoeppner hadn't died, he'd have done the same thing Mallory usually did: Win seven or so games a year, make a bowl, graduate his players. That's all the vast majority of IU fans require in football. There are plenty of guys who can do that without making the university look like an employment agency for the criminally goofy. Brady Hoke would do that and a little more.
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Bringing it back here, but as an Oregon State fan, mike Riley does just this and most OSU fans would be happy letting him coach as long as he likes.

Some schools just ain't gonna be great.
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#150
tvolsfan said:
I don't really care about Mullen, but his level of competition is on a different level than Leach.
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Doesn't matter... it's the same situation. Mullen has to play Alabama and LSU every year and try to beat them out in the West. Lech had to play Texas and Oklahoma every year to try and beat them out for the Big 12 south. Neither school is ripe for recruiting, not a great history for the most part, etc...
 
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