I've come the conclusion that mccain can't beat Obama

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droski said:
obama clearly has some muslim ties. just look at some of his advisors and who is standing behind him during his speaches.
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ties or not, he will clearly take an appeasement approach toward them because of his background.
 
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TennTradition said:
I don't disagree with your patriotism arguments...but couldn't he still be a Muslim and have these ties? I understand that he apparently isn't a Muslim...but I'm sure that many Muslims have made sacrifices for this country.
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Yes, but if you go look at his family your talking about the one father being muslim while the rest of his family was not. If you dig into my family and looked at my astranged father it probably means you wouldnt like me either.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
ties or not, he will clearly take an appeasement approach toward them because of his background.
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How a year seems to have disappeared from the collective mindset. Obama just 10 months ago angered the entire muslim world with his stance on bombing Pakistan if it meant he could get the Taleban. Several muslim nations wanted his head on a pole after that.
 
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He also said he'd be more than happy to sit down and have a coffee klatch with Ahmadenijad.
 
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droski said:
he's a lousy public speaker, boring, and not nearly as slick. Hillary on the other hand is disliked by many and therefore gives the repubs a chance.
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hills has shifted substantially to the right during her senate tenure as compared to before it, so i'm not convinced some centrist repubs wouldn't vote for her.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
hills has shifted substantially to the right during her senate tenure as compared to before it, so i'm not convinced some centrist repubs wouldn't vote for her.
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ummm i respectfully disagree. the WSJ did a study of voting records over the past 4 years and found that hillary had the most liberal voting record of ANY senator. Bill is to the right, but hillary ain't.
 
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droski said:
ummm i respectfully disagree. the WSJ did a study of voting records over the past 4 years and found that hillary had the most liberal voting record of ANY senator. Bill is to the right, but hillary ain't.
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I've seen a similar study by another reputable source (can't think of the exact publication right now), that said Obama's record was the most liberal. In any event, there's no objective measure for such things anyway.
 
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droski said:
I'd rather have lower income taxes and pay for my own doctor.
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My taxes here aren't that much higher than they would be in the US, where I would have to pay. Because I have a heart condition, my medical bills in the US are through the roof. Here it's all free. :dance2:
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
I like socialists. Went to my free doctor today again. :rock:
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Your kidding right? of all the countries in the world that system is beyond help at this point. Even the Canadians make fun of it! Do you read any of the English papers? Its story upon story of health care that comes too late or never at all.
 
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Sjernigan88 said:
Because they have done such a good job with education, retirement, and welfare, right?
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you're right. cambridge and oxford suck.

why have your retirement and medical expenses completely covered when you can collect your $800 social security check every month and pay for your own prescriptions? why have a 5% unemployment rate when it can be 6.5%? Why have a poverty rate of 17% when it can be 30%?

:crazy:
 
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MontereyVol said:
The Iranian leaders.
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they're pissed off at the US because it's their policy to be pissed off at the US. Obama sitting down with Mahmoud the Insane won't do anything to alleviate that. Obama could tell them that the US is pulling out of Iraq and will stop supporting Israel and the Iranian leadership will still hate the US.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
you're right. cambridge and oxford suck.

why have your retirement and medical expenses completely covered when you can collect your $800 social security check every month and pay for your own prescriptions? why have a 5% unemployment rate when it can be 6.5%? Why have a poverty rate of 17% when it can be 30%?

:crazy:
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Why would any one in their right mind depend on the government for their retirement?
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Either way, why give up freedom to the government of either country?
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how does having socialized healthcare equate to giving up freedom? if you're talking about taxes, i'll repeat my comment about not having to pay much more here than i would in the US (in the appropriate tax bracket).
 
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