Jacob Eason Transferring?

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SaintLouisVol said:
No one is twisting the arms of the players and making them play.

Players can have one of two attitudes about college football:

1. I am auditioning for the NFL. I'll meet the minimum to stay eligible and hopefully end up good enough to get drafted and make a roster.

2. I have a chance to go to college for free and play the game that I love to play for 4-5 more years. When I am done, I'll move on to the next phase of my life with a wealth of great experiences and college degree.

The problem is that far too many college players have attitude #1 when their talent suggests they ought to be a #2.
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None of this justifies transfer restrictions, which do very much resemble arm-twisting.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I think my slippery slope fear is because you have an unprecedented amount of great jobs open at the same time like this year. There is a ton of talent at UT, aTm, UF, FSU, UCLA etc.... X University hires the "white whale" and say 4 or 5 Kamara level talents who are disgruntled and have been misused all decide they want to be LeBron, Bosh and Wade and start recruiting other guys. It turns into this super team thing.
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Seems like it would give schools a major incentive to make great hires. Good. Maybe Tennessee would finally do it for once.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I think my slippery slope fear is because you have an unprecedented amount of great jobs open at the same time like this year. There is a ton of talent at UT, aTm, UF, FSU, UCLA etc.... X University hires the "white whale" and say 4 or 5 Kamara level talents who are disgruntled and have been misused all decide they want to be LeBron, Bosh and Wade and start recruiting other guys. It turns into this super team thing.
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And this already happens in high school recruiting anyway
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
No one is twisting the arms of the players and making them play.

Players can have one of two attitudes about college football:

1. I am auditioning for the NFL. I'll meet the minimum to stay eligible and hopefully end up good enough to get drafted and make a roster.

2. I have a chance to go to college for free and play the game that I love to play for 4-5 more years. When I am done, I'll move on to the next phase of my life with a wealth of great experiences and college degree.

The problem is that far too many college players have attitude #1 when their talent suggests they ought to be a #2.
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I'm not arguing that they didn't know the score or that being a scholarship athlete is not lucrative. I'm arguing that the system is fundamentally set up to exploit them by giving them less than they could get in a free market. NBA players also have a sweet deal, but the top end players still make significantly less than they could without an artificial salary cap.

I have a feeling you would feel differently if your career field had a system that exploited you in the same way. As well you should.
 
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In many situations, the NCAA can require an athlete to sit out one year, but they can transfer over the objections of the school they are leaving. From the NCAA.org web site:

"The NCAA does not prevent any student-athlete from transferring. Student-athletes are free to transfer if they believe the decision is in their best interest; where NCAA rules come into play is with questions about how quickly a student-athlete can compete at the new school."
 
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hillsborovol said:
I may be wrong, but i believe that scholarships are given one year at a time...not in a four year cluster.
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There is a truth to this. Generally kids are told it's a 4 year deal and for most it is, but schollys can be yanked for most any reason an institution or coach can drum up. I have personal knowledge of years ago a fellow who played baseball in college not in the SEC his senior year on what was termed a "half" scholarship due to his poor on field performance his junior year. That senior year he was deemed an All American.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Because he signed his name on the dotted line and made a commitment to play for Georgia.
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Thats a BS answer.

That commitment is only good for one year if the coach wants to not renew a scholly the kid gets left out in the cold.

The rule should be that it is a four year commitment and if either side breaks it there should be financial penalties under most circumstances. If a kid is forced out by punishing them or treating them differently the school should be held accountable also.

If a student is kicked off a team for break the law or breaking university rules there should be some arbitration to decide if any penalties would apply.

The system truly screws of the athletes more than it should.

They are close to indentured servants and are at the whim of the coach. When a new coaching staff comes it isn't unusual to see kids not have schollys re upped and that is total bs.
 
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kmkemp11 said:
I'm not arguing that they didn't know the score or that being a scholarship athlete is not lucrative. I'm arguing that the system is fundamentally set up to exploit them by giving them less than they could get in a free market. NBA players also have a sweet deal, but the top end players still make significantly less than they could without an artificial salary cap.

I have a feeling you would feel differently if your career field had a system that exploited you in the same way. As well you should.
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It’s not a “market.” It’s intercollegiate athletics. Football will never be a career for 95% of the students who play. It’s an activity.

We’re worrying about a “broken” system that serves 19 out of 20 players just fine.
 
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Big Orange #1 said:
Will Georgia QB Jacob Eason transfer? That's the 'million dollar' question

Good article on Eason and if he will transfer. One would think yes given the success of Fromm and Fields enrolling this year. His talent is off the charts and has prob the biggest arm in college football. Perfect pro style QB.

Could CJP and CTH get in with Eason. This is the type of QB that is a program changer.

What you think volnation do we swing for the fences on him?
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No coach in CFB in his right mind would allow such a transfer. Eason needs to find a pass happy school with a dominant o-line to protect him and make him shine for the NFL.
 
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superdave1984 said:
Yeah, that would work. I am sure he wouldn't have any problem paying his own way.
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Mayfields problem was/is more complex than Easons. One, his side was that he was a non recruited athlete that walked on and therefore didn't need TT's permission to contact other schools or sit out a year. Two, conference rules got in the way. Third, TT never gave him what the NCAA considers most important, a scholly and more than 2 phone calls which TT interpreted as "being recruited". It was a myriad of TT, Big 12 and NCAA screwups that made it so frustrating of a situation.
 
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I thought this was a joke. Apparently not.

Zero chance he’s ever a Vol.

He’ll have 3 years to play 2. With his talent, he’ll have a long list of very good options. Helping rebuild Tennessee while facing Georgia and Alabama every year? I doubt that appeals to him.
 
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kmkemp11 said:
Says who? In a capitalist society, the normal understanding of "plenty" is determined by the market. In this case, there is no market because it's forbidden by an organization that would rather save money on taxes than be fair to its empl... errr student athletes.
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Yeah a fully paid scholarship that includes housing, meal plans and books is nothing. Oh and lets factor in the money from boosters and other local businesses. Considering that some, if not many, of these student athletes come from a lower class family, I would say thats plenty.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Yeah a fully paid scholarship that includes housing, meal plans and books is nothing. Oh and lets factor in the money from boosters and other local businesses. Considering that some, if not many, of these student athletes come from a lower class family, I would say thats plenty.
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Why does this matter? We don't need to pay them as much if they're poor? They should be happy with less, so let's just give them that?

The average SEC team is bringing in almost $1 million per scholarship player, every year. Room and board may be rising in price quickly, but not that quickly.
 
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OriginalCoach said:
Mayfields problem was/is more complex than Easons. One, his side was that he was a non recruited athlete that walked on and therefore didn't need TT's permission to contact other schools or sit out a year. Two, conference rules got in the way. Third, TT never gave him what the NCAA considers most important, a scholly and more than 2 phone calls which TT interpreted as "being recruited". It was a myriad of TT, Big 12 and NCAA screwups that made it so frustrating of a situation.
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Well it was just a thought.
 
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photovol said:
Some other school will swoop in and grab Eason, while the Vols are still mulling it over and over:):)
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I have not heard too much of the word mulling a lot until Tennessee was searching for a coach and everyone has wore it out on Twitter. I have heard mull enough for my lifetime especially with the incompetence of how everything went down in last few months.
 
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