Jaden Rashada (Florida Signee) requesting NLI release

[VolAnonShaman]

You hate to see it.

 

[NeverWe'llSever]

So not only is Florida poverty, they’re liars, too.

 

[Cobb-Webb 1989]

Bryce Brown's and Tate Martell's sure didn't. Walter Nolen is still in a wait and see mode, although I guess it is debatable if his recruitment itself was a clown show. His playing at a different high school every year thing was weird, but his commitment itself I guess was fairly straightforward.

Tossing in Eric Locke as well.

Wish the players had these sponsor deals back in the day for Chuck Webb.

 

[CR-vol]

How about not wanting to play or be involved with an organization that straight up lies to you? This isnt an issue with the player, this is an issue with telling a kid anything and everything to get his signature.

There's 2 sides to every story and none of us knows the facts to say "this is what happened". Maybe what you said is true. But think about if both parties agreed to an amount lower than $13,000,000 before he signed his LOI then he decides he's gonna demand $13,000,000 after signing it and they rightfully tell him no deal go F yourself. That was a lose, lose scenario for Florida, if that's what happened. We don't know though. Just speculating.

 

[tennesseeduke]

This kid has probably ruined his future
Reports: UF QB commit Rashada wants release

The promised $13 million I’m sure is not a recruiting violation. When it folds up he wants out!

 

[Remy]

So I may not quite understand NIL but when you say "if UF gets out of the deal" it sounds like the university is on the hook. My understanding is that NIL money is outside of the University so UF technically has no exposure on the massive NIL deal? Other than losing its top recruit of course when the deal falls apart. Am I not understanding this correctly?

You do understand correctly. However who can now trust any outfit making an NIL deal toward UF recruits? They/NIL group signed the kid and he then went forward and signed the UF LOI and then when time comes the check is not there? That's bait and switch.

 

[lawgator1]

You do understand correctly. However who can now trust any outfit making an NIL deal toward UF recruits? They/NIL group signed the kid and he then went forward and signed the UF LOI and then when time comes the check is not there? That's bait and switch.

We will work on securing that money up front and better communication with the benefactors. It will hurt for a year, maybe two. But look at this way - we'll have to up our game now to be competitive.

 

[butchna]

8 mil is a big number on an "IF". See Jimbo Fisher, or any number of sure fire coaches. We have had plenty of highly rated guys not pan out as players.

8 mil AFTER he wins is fine, but before is crazy.

A nice signing bonus, a retention payment, escalation plan, you start at X, get plus 25% for starting, plus X for winning, plus X for a championship, plus X for graduating, plus X for playing in bowl games. They dont exist now but I think you will see them as the business world wraps its head around these guys. Its pay for play, but after the fact with a structured contract that doesnt involve the school.

That way you can wave 8 million in front of some 18 year old, but only have to deliver after you get results.

Can’t win FOR you if he’s not on your team.

 

[Fightmaker]

Some highly-rated college recruits make their school choices based on financial considerations. Others focus on coaching staff expertise. Some look for the "NFL path." Yet others prioritize the school's reputation (whether academic, athletic, or other). Some care most about the community and how it "feels" when they're there.

Most recruits are at least a bit of all of that.

So Rashada is more toward the finances. So what? He's far from the only one. And it doesn't mean he's a bad person. It doesn't mean he isn't a good young man that any program would be happy to have in the locker room.

I don't see how this hurts Rashada's reputation in any way. This is on the Florida program, particularly their NIL collective.

It doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s a bad person, but it kinda says he’s a me first type of guy, so it’s up to everyone else to make up their own minds.

 

[york.adamray]

How many threads do we need on this?

I did not see one so I made one

 

[feathersax]

We will work on securing that money up front and better communication with the benefactors. It will hurt for a year, maybe two. But look at this way - we'll have to up our game now to be competitive.

There's gonna be lots of bumps in this N.I.L. road.

 

[stolitonic]

What are Rashada's options if Florida won't release him from his NLI?

I don't think that will really be an option for Florida.

They already look bad enough in this situation. No point in doubling down by trying to squat on the kids commitment.

Don't forget, our man Bru had a "difficult" recruitment but he is here-seemingly happy and most certainly thriving now.

Let the kid go and find the place that checks all the boxes for his situation. If he chooses wisely and becomes a star, you look good for working with the kid. If he goes somewhere and bombs, well you look like a genius talent evaluator.

Only way to really "lose" big is by being petty. Next year's recruits have eyes and ears also

Honestly, I kinda miss the days when if a player was let out of their commitment they were usually not allowed to transfer in conference or on a team on the schedule for the next four years. Like it or not, contracts are serious business and that seemed like a decent compromise on both sides.

 

[perico]

That is so te

You hate to see it.

That is so cringey. Trying to talk a rising senior in HS to try and graduate and skip his senior year so you can fill an imaginary quota of how many scholarship QBs you want this year?

 

[Carp]

Lesson for UF: Don't make promises to pay someone when you don't already have that money in your hand.

Supposedly the Gator Collective agreed to a deal in principle with Rashada that they could only make good on with a hefty part of it coming from a prominent UF booster. That part never came through and they backed out of the deal. And I can't say I blame the booster; this kid might be a great player, but $13m for an 18-year-old who has never played a down in college is steep. I think you're going to see these gargantuan deals for guys right out of high school dry up and it start to shift towards more established guys. NIL is still brand new and everyone...players, boosters, university admins, etc. are figuring out how to price it.

I agree. More likely to see big time transfers like Caleb Williams last year getting these big offers. 13 million was ridiculous anyways. I'm not even sure I believe the rumors about Nico getting 8 million, though I'm sure he got a large deal

 

[Boston Vol]

I agree. More likely to see big time transfers like Caleb Williams last year getting these big offers. 13 million was ridiculous anyways. I'm not even sure I believe the rumors about Nico getting 8 million, though I'm sure he got a large deal

The $8 million is a legit figure. The Athletic got to review the actual contract that was drafted. They didn’t say that it was specifically Nico, as there was an agreement that The Athletic wouldn’t be able to divulge the player or the collective, but all signs points Nico.

 

[CAVPUT]

If Rashada is given his release, he can negotiate a new NIL deal, but he's not free to sign with another school until the next signing period, right?

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

If Rashada is given his release, he can negotiate a new NIL deal, but he's not free to sign with another school until the next signing period, right?

J'Marion Gooch was released from our NLI and committed to Missouri just a few days later. I think it was a couple of years ago.

I don't think he has to wait.

 

[TheDirector]

https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2022/06/hurricanes/

Interesting article when Miami originally landed Rashada. The lawyer handling the NIL contracts didn't have nice things to say about the Florida collective back then and originally turned them down before Florida upped their offer and then pulled a bait and switch. Sounds like the Florida collective has had a bad reputation for a while.

 

[Preyed_On]

Looks bad for UF 95: percent

Looks bad for him: 5 percent


Looks bad for all of college football in its traditional sense: 1 million percent

Cry me a f****** river

Florida hired a guy to wash their house. When it was time to pay up, they refused. Now you wanna whine about “tradition”.

You wanna know what’s traditional? Paying somebody what you agreed to pay them. You wouldn’t be sitting here longing for “the innocence of traditional college football” if your inept collective didn’t completely s*** the bed in the first place.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

The $8 million is a legit figure. The Athletic got to review the actual contract that was drafted. They didn’t say that it was specifically Nico, as there was an agreement that The Athletic wouldn’t be able to divulge the player or the collective, but all signs points Nico.

I'm as pro NIL as anyone because legally it's the right thing but let's do some math.

If the 13M is a correct figure for Rashada, that's 3.25M/yr for 4 years. If the 8M is a correct figure for Nico, that's 2M/yr for 4 years. There's little guarantee they'd not declare for the draft before 4 years, but let's look at it from a "best case" situation for the schools.

Taylor Heinicke, not a superstar QB but an NFL caliber backup QB with experience, had something like 5M+/- for 2 yrs contract (pro contracts are crazy complex because of salary caps, bonuses, etc so it's tough to get an exact figure on what he actually got.)

Both Nico and Rashada may be far better QBs than Heinicke in the future, but they may never be at his level in the NFL. They are unknowns at the college level, much less the pro level, while Heinicke has bounced around and stepped up a couple of times in the NFL.

That unproven college QBs are making pro level QB money tells me that a PROVEN college QB who doesn't demand a high NIL is doing himself and his family an injustice. It's going to get even crazier and I can't see a way this can sustain itself.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Florida is screwed. Their “Collective” have to honor $13 million because they wrote it up in a way saying all he has to do was sign with them. He did. Now they can’t sue or not pay and if they claim the school collective wasn’t involved then it’s an illegal booster violation

 

[T2P_Priceless]

Florida is screwed. Their “Collective” have to honor $13 million because they wrote it up in a way saying all he has to do was sign with them. He did. Now they can’t sue or not pay and if they claim the school collective wasn’t involved then it’s an illegal booster violation

Is that confirmed? They still have to pay him?

 

[lawgator1]

Is that confirmed? They still have to pay him?

Of course not.

 

[miket4god]

Florida is screwed. Their “Collective” have to honor $13 million because they wrote it up in a way saying all he has to do was sign with them. He did. Now they can’t sue or not pay and if they claim the school collective wasn’t involved then it’s an illegal booster violation

That in and of itself is illegal so there is zero chance that is how the NIL was worded. The NIL deal cannot legally be based on where you sign.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

He gone. Sucks to be that FL collective now and Napier. You hate to see it.

BREAKING: Florida Gators make final decision on Jaden Rashda situation