Jalen ButtHurts not happy with QB competition anymore. (would Tennessee be interested?)

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butchna said:
Not unless they improve our team. Kennedy does...Hurts doesn’t.
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Would he not be able to play the bailout roll that Dobbs played, while our lines transform into top of the SEC levels. Dobbs covered up a lot of deficiencies with his legs. It seems to me that Hurts could do the same.
 
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VetVol said:


But seriously, I would not mind having Hurts as our QB. Hopefully our QB performance this year will be good enough to forget wanting other QBs.
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Please explain to me what the hell is going on in this gif. 😳
 
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i2amavol said:
Would he not be able to play the bailout roll that Dobbs played, while our lines transform into top of the SEC levels. Dobbs covered up a lot of deficiencies with his legs. It seems to me that Hurts could do the same.
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Did that because our offensive concept sucked and I hope we don’t go back to that. While our O-Line transforms, I think it’s should do so in the offense we’re going to be running when it finishes. Hurts functioned great within the Bama framework. He didn’t enhance it. That’s why Tua will start...he does.
 
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butchna said:
Did that because our offensive concept sucked and I hope we don’t go back to that. While our O-Line transforms, I think it’s should do so in the offense we’re going to be running when it finishes. Hurts functioned great within the Bama framework. He didn’t enhance it. That’s why Tua will start...he does.
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Exactly.
Dobbs was being forced to win games due to scheme and deficiencies. Hurts was being asked to not screw up too much since they could wi 90% of their games by just wearing down the opponent running the ball and playing D.
 
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jakez4ut said:
I'd say if the 26-2 record, Alabama had more to do with 26 wins than hurts, and hurts had more to do with the 2 loses than Alabama did.

And if not for tua, they'd be 25-3. Lol
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Probably, but not a lock. But, probably. Hurts could have made the adjustments at halftime to kick start the offense and go lights out in the 2nd half. The defense, after all, gave up 13 before half and had to make their adjustment to stop GA just enough to get what they needed from Tua. I bet if it was 3-0 or 0-0 at half, Hurts would have had more to do in 2nd half than watch.
 
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jakez4ut said:
And? The only qb in your list that even compares to hurts is Martin, and Martin didn't get #'s like hurts has.

And he's still gonna get benched cause he's not good enough.
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And? Point was several were saying Hurts was only Hurts cause he benefited from the feeder team around him. My point is, our top QB's had that same benefit. Without our feeder teams at the time, they wouldn't have been as good either. It is a team sport. we've proven what happens with some QB's that should have been super sized and put them on a squad of anorexics.
 
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GVF said:
And? Point was several were saying Hurts was only Hurts cause he benefited from the feeder team around him. My point is, our top QB's had that same benefit. Without our feeder teams at the time, they wouldn't have been as good either. It is a team sport. we've proven what happens with some QB's that should have been super sized and put them on a squad of anorexics.
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so you're saying hurts is in the same category, as a quarterback, as peyton manning and casey clausen?
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GVF said:
Probably, but not a lock. But, probably. Hurts could have made the adjustments at halftime to kick start the offense and go lights out in the 2nd half. The defense, after all, gave up 13 before half and had to make their adjustment to stop GA just enough to get what they needed from Tua. I bet if it was 3-0 or 0-0 at half, Hurts would have had more to do in 2nd half than watch.
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but none of that is what happened. the coaches benched him in favor of a freshman in the biggest game of the year.
 
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GVF said:
But, he did say it. Same Same. Doesn't matter when. Kinda puts him in same boat.
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it's a bit different to say it a month after the game, than to maybe have said it before it, and then have it play out like it did.

there's nothing to lose at that point. say it before the game, and you don't get put in, then you better start packing your bags. no risk whatsoever in making that statement afterwards. none.
 
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jakez4ut said:
but none of that is what happened. the coaches benched him in favor of a freshman in the biggest game of the year.
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Yep. Even watched the replay while getting my hair cut at sports clips the other day. It did happen that way. both times. lol.
 
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jakez4ut said:
it's a bit different to say it a month after the game, than to maybe have said it before it, and then have it play out like it did.

there's nothing to lose at that point. say it before the game, and you don't get put in, then you better start packing your bags. no risk whatsoever in making that statement afterwards. none.
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True. understand all that. But, he still had to head into spring and summer practice after saying that. they both said what they said pre-2018 workouts and season. And some after it started by Hurts and pops. Not much difference in attitude imo. Biggest hurdle is that Hurts' dad popped off and prob did more damage than Hurts himself.
 
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Hurry, change the thread title to something more classy. Buck Belue just said Hurts two most likely transfer destinations:

1. Texas - his home state
2. Tennessee - due to Pruitt
 
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jakez4ut said:
so you're saying hurts is in the same category, as a quarterback, as peyton manning and casey clausen?
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Nope. Not at all. Not even a comparison can be made. I'm saying, as others have said about Hurts, that they all benefitted greatly by having NFL feeder teams around them at the time they played on their respective rosters. You put PM in the UT roster of the last few years, and he's not as prolific a QB as he was with the rosters he played with. Same for CC. And he didn't even make the NFL. But he was great at UT because of the supporting cast that was still heavily feeding the NFL at the time.


If you put Tua in our lineup last year, would he have been the same Tua we saw in the NC. Doubt it.
 
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GVF said:
Nope. Not at all. Not even a comparison can be made. I'm saying, as others have said about Hurts, that they all benefitted greatly by having NFL feeder teams around them at the time they played on their respective rosters. You put PM in the UT roster of the last few years, and he's not as prolific a QB as he was with the rosters he played with. Same for CC. And he didn't even make the NFL. But he was great at UT because of the supporting cast that was still heavily feeding the NFL at the time.


If you put Tua in our lineup last year, would he have been the same Tua we saw in the NC. Doubt it.
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don't disagree with any of that. but you're presenting it as a comparison of what the QB would be w/ or w/out the teams around him. and while true, what the QB's are asked to do with that talent around them is solely dependent upon what that QB is capable of doing himself.

and hurts was not asked to do the same things that Manning and Clausen were asked to do. which is why i equated the more accurate comparison is with Tee Martin on the 98 team. that team won a title with a very average quarter back. so did Bama with Hurts. both great athletes. both asked to do similar things as QB's. neither can/could do what a manning or clausen could do from the pocket.
 
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jakez4ut said:
don't disagree with any of that. but you're presenting it as a comparison of what the QB would be w/ or w/out the teams around him. and while true, what the QB's are asked to do with that talent around them is solely dependent upon what that QB is capable of doing himself.

and hurts was not asked to do the same things that Manning and Clausen were asked to do. which is why i equated the more accurate comparison is with Tee Martin on the 98 team. that team won a title with a very average quarter back. so did Bama with Hurts. both great athletes. both asked to do similar things as QB's. neither can/could do what a manning or clausen could do from the pocket.
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Agreeable points. I didn't intend for my comments to infer a direct comparison of talent to Manning and Clausen. Just a comparison of the benefits of a feeder team around you. Even if Manning had the misfortune of QB'ing UT the last few years, he still had the package to be the Manning he was in the NFL. regardless of Hurts college career, he will never play in the NFL at QB. except maybe a wildcat formation. I would go out on a limb and say between Hurts and Martin, although a good comparison, Martin would be the better passer. I still don't see how Jay Barker got passed over, but that's another story of opinions.
 
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05_never_again said:
I don't really get all the Adams hate. The guy is pretty cynical (like Tennessee fans can be) and can be highly critical of the team's play at times, especially when there is bad coaching.

Guess what...there's been a lot of bad play and bad coaching at Tennessee over the last decade.
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If you don't get the hate for John Adams, I am not going to bother telling you jokes. If you can't recognize a weasel when you read one, you are pretty much hopeless.
 
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