Jalen Hurd headed to Baylor

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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Remember I called him the Calvin Johnson of RBs. Guess he'll just be plain ole Calvin Johnson now.

He's a good enough athlete to be a NFL player at that position as well.
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He's going to go from the worst running back in the SEC, and bottom 10 in the nation, to a HOF level wideout?

I honestly feel bad for you sometimes. I know there are times, this being one, when you think to yourself "Son of a b****, why did I put myself in the position to have to defend such an absolutely moronic prediction?"
 
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bamawriter said:
He's going to go from the worst running back in the SEC, and bottom 10 in the nation, to a HOF level wideout?

I honestly feel bad for you sometimes. I know there are times, this being one, when you think to yourself "Son of a b****, why did I put myself in the position to have to defend such an absolutely moronic prediction?"
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If you look at Hurd's production, his highlights and big plays came catching the ball. And there were a few of those. He has great, not good hands. He has speed, which will be enhanced playing around 215 instead of 240+. And, has a year to aclimate, learn position and playbook.
 
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CLCVol said:
What are the odds that he never plays a down for Baylor?
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A Wacko goes to Waco. All I know for sure is this shuts up the idiotic arguments for him returning to Tennessee. He doesn't want to be here. Most fans with any sense are glad he is gone.

This time last year, I had as much respect for him as I did every other guy in orange. Now, I am glad he and his nut job Mom are somebody else's problem. As to your question, I can't come up with an answer. With a final shred of sadness, I can say I really DGAF. Turn the page.
 
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Orange defense said:
Dont they pass, pass, pass?
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The old offense would rather gash you between the tackles and dare you to load the box.

Russell Athletic Bowl vs North Carolina:

653 yards rushing-All Time Bowl Record

Johnny Jefferson 299 yards rushing-All Time Bowl Record
(Jefferson will finish his career at Texas-San Antonio)

https://youtu.be/IKHEjBUGbYQ

Lache Seastrunk vs Undefeated K-State:

https://youtu.be/B-zjtItF6gM

Lache Seastrunk (one leg) vs Oklahoma State

https://youtu.be/v_tV1ulZmtE

Terrance Ganaway vs Washington Alamo

Bowl:https://youtu.be/VyTFDi9994E
 
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BUBear said:
The old offense would rather gash you between the tackles and dare you to load the box.

Russell Athletic Bowl vs North Carolina:

653 yards rushing-All Time Bowl Record

Johnny Jefferson 299 yards rushing-All Time Bowl Record
(Jefferson will finish his career at Texas-San Antonio)

https://youtu.be/IKHEjBUGbYQ

Lache Seastrunk vs Undefeated K-State:

https://youtu.be/B-zjtItF6gM

Lache Seastrunk (one leg) vs Oklahoma State

https://youtu.be/v_tV1ulZmtE

Terrance Ganaway vs Washington Alamo

Bowl:https://youtu.be/VyTFDi9994E
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Article I read said that he was going to play receiver, so why does it matter?
 
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Kevinyaheard said:
People viewing the world with the orange glow from their Vols tinted glasses...

I am a Tennessee fan until the end of time, but it is pretty clear, to me anyways, that something doesn't add up. He was very unhappy at the end 2015. It was rumored that he was contemplating transferring then. Is there any way that he wouldn't have been better transferring to Juco rather than what happened?? His stock was as high as possible then. He could have had his pick of schools. However, it would have been a huge red flag to recruits and signified that something might be amiss in Tennessee country.

All of a sudden, coincidentally at the same time the rumors started, Tennessee starts incorporating a lot more single back looks and even the occasional lead blocker for Hurd. What happened to his production? Hurd produced three of the best games of his career to end that season (151 yards vs. Missouri, 120 yards vs. Vanderbilt and 130 yards vs. Northwestern). This puts him at ease thinking that he has an actual chance to succeed going forward. Why wouldn't it? It was largely successful for the whole team. Then, they reverted back to the same slow developing spread looks and qb read options that caused the original problem. Classic Butch, loves trying to fit round pegs in square holes...

If I squandered my best chance to transfer because a coach gave me his word that we would move in this direction, and then ultimately deceived me, I wouldn't be happy either. I don't think he quit on his teammates one bit. I think he finally realized that they weren't looking out for his best interest. If it doesn't help BOTH parties reach an agreed upon common goal then one is just using the other. Why should he struggle in a scheme that CLEARLY isn't catered to his obvious strength? Butch would never promise or even allude to something to get a recruit to come here. Coaches would never do that! Brick by brick, right? The man is a SAINT. Maybe... Or a used car salesmen. Depends on who you ask.

College football is set up to be a VERY predatory affair. Can't win without those Blue Chippers! Can't make all of them happy... Can't get them here without telling them everything they want to hear. Somebody is going to get lied to. The whole model is built upon the exploitation of an unpaid labor. Is it REALLY hard for everyone to see that this is EXTREMELY common place and par for the course? No way that this could have happened in this situation? It is hard to see the forest with all those orange trees in the way...

Good luck Jalen. Do what is best for you, most coaches absolutely won't. That isn't their job, winning is. I would not play another game for a coach that blatantly misled and endangered my lucrative future either.
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He quit in the middle of a game. If you condone that you are as big of a quitter as he is. Difference is he is a kid and has time to mature. What's your excuse?
 
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bamawriter said:
He's going to go from the worst running back in the SEC, and bottom 10 in the nation, to a HOF level wideout?

I honestly feel bad for you sometimes. I know there are times, this being one, when you think to yourself "Son of a b****, why did I put myself in the position to have to defend such an absolutely moronic prediction?"
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If you are going to call someone a moron, don't make moronic statements yourself.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
I tend to agree with a lot of your opinions, but I don't think there is any way you can sell Hurd being one of the 10 worst RBs in the NCAA last year.
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Of RBs who started and got plenty of carries? Yeah, he was. His YPC were the 7th worst out of all RBs who got 100 carries or more. His longest run tied for 5th shortest. Just over 59% of his carries went for 3 yards or less, which is 6th worst. And he's the only RB on that unfortunate list who had a teammate that performed better, meaning he was the only one whose coach had other options.

Now, it is certainly fair to point out that Hurd never got to play against the weakest rushing defenses on UT's schedule, meaning it's possible that his numbers would have improved. But when you pitch a hissy fit and quit, I don't think you deserve the benefit of the doubt.
 
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bamawriter said:
Of RBs who started and got plenty of carries? Yeah, he was. His YPC were the 7th worst out of all RBs who got 100 carries or more. His longest run tied for 5th shortest. Just over 59% of his carries went for 3 yards or less, which is 6th worst. And he's the only RB on that unfortunate list who had a teammate that performed better, meaning he was the only one whose coach had other options.

Now, it is certainly fair to point out that Hurd never got to play against the weakest rushing defenses on UT's schedule, meaning it's possible that his numbers would have improved. But when you pitch a hissy fit and quit, I don't think you deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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I certainly don't disagree with that point.
 
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bamawriter said:
Feel free to try and dispute that statement. You aren't going to be successful.
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I'll be successful in this one reply. Freshman and sophomore year he was on pace to being a 1st to 2nd round pick in the league. I'm guessing you will hit me with box scores and stats because quite frankly you are an unathletic rube that only understands numbers. That's the biggest problem with Bama fans. They think by cheering for a winning team that it translates into some sort of football knowledge. Actually playing and understanding the game means more than anything you could say at this point. Ask anyone who has played a down of college football if Hurd was a bottom tier RB. Your opinion is idiotic.
 
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sanddune50 said:
I'll be successful in this one reply. Freshman and sophomore year he was on pace to being a 1st to 2nd round pick in the league. I'm guessing you will hit me with box scores and stats because quite frankly you are an unathletic rube that only understands numbers. That's the biggest problem with Bama fans. They think by cheering for a winning team that it translates into some sort of football knowledge. Actually playing and understanding the game means more than anything you could say at this point. Ask anyone who has played a down of college football if Hurd was a bottom tier RB. Your opinion is idiotic.
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It is amazing how some UT fans continue to romanticize this guy. He was awful last year. Awful. Go ahead and point to his freshman and sophomore years and ignore the diminishing returns that were already apparent. Putting up yards means nothing if you require a billion carries to get there.
 
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bamawriter said:
It is amazing how some UT fans continue to romanticize this guy. He was awful last year. Awful. Go ahead and point to his freshman and sophomore years and ignore the diminishing returns that were already apparent. Putting up yards means nothing if you require a billion carries to get there.
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How am I romanticizing him? Several posts before I approached yours, I laid into the kid for being a quitter. That doesn't mean he's the drizzling sh1ts like you are trying to portray him to be. One mistake I see in your assessment is that you completely ignore his ability to block or catch out of the backfield.
 
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sanddune50 said:
How am I romanticizing him? Several posts before I approached yours, I laid into the kid for being a quitter. That doesn't mean he's the drizzling sh1ts like you are trying to portray him to be. One mistake I see in your assessment is that you completely ignore his ability to block or catch out of the backfield.
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Great. Find me an NFL team that's going to burn even a 3rd round pick on an RB who is a poor rusher, but who is a great blocker with decent hands. There is a reason the guy isn't a running back.
 
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bamawriter said:
Great. Find me an NFL team that's going to burn even a 3rd round pick on an RB who is a poor rusher, but who is a great blocker with decent hands. There is a reason the guy isn't a running back.
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If he was a poor rusher you may have a point. The kid was running in the wrong system and still had a lot of success until he mentally checked out. This is the reason he blew his chance at a career in the league. Besides, how many RBs has Alabama fleeced NFL teams with by putting them behind 5 star lines only for them to have moderate success to being a flat out busts in the league. As a Raiders fan, I'm still annoyed with how horrible Trent Richardson was.
 
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sanddune50 said:
If he was a poor rusher you may have a point. The kid was running in the wrong system and still had a lot of success until he mentally checked out. This is the reason he blew his chance at a career in the league. Besides, how many RBs has Alabama fleeced NFL teams with by putting them behind 5 star lines only for them to have moderate success to being a flat out busts in the league. As a Raiders fan, I'm still annoyed with how horrible Trent Richardson was.
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Every one of those running backs played just fine at Alabama. Other than Henry, why should I, as a Titans fan, care what they do in the league?

As for Hurd having "a lot" of success: it required a lot of carries to get there. And as for 2016, his production left him worst in the SEC and bottom 10 in the country. If he was in the wrong system and had mentally checked out, then those are contributing factors to the steaming turd that was his fraction of a season. Maybe they are 100% of the reason he sucked. But I kinda doubt it, because were that the case he'd be trying to play running back elsewhere. He sure as heck can't say that he wasn't given ample opportunity to get it done.
 
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