Jalin Hyatt #73 to Giants, Tilman #74 to Browns

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I guess my post got consolidated.

Seriously, I like Jalin and what he did for the team, but this sitting out; quitting, is not a good look for our youth.

The game is played TO HAVE FUN. When the risk outweighs the fun, you make a business decision. You can keep whining all you want (it's been 4 months, get over it), but it won't change the fact that he didn't quit anything. He chose, wisely, to sit out of an exhibition game. That has zero impact on his loyalty to the school and program.
 
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Congrats to all the Vols who were drafted. Back in Jan, when Hyatt announced he was declaring for the draft, I said I thought it was a big mistake. I didn't believe he was NFL ready and the NIL $$$ he could have made by returning would have been much better than a a late draft pick and a rookie contract. I thought Tillman would go ahead of him. I was surprised that Hooker went as early as he did, because of his injury. I believe he was taken because of his high character, which outweighs the injury. I hope they all do well.

The range Hyatt and Tillman were picked should land them $1mil+ in signing bonus and a $5-7mil contract. Hyatt MAYBE clears a million in NIL by coming back. Tillman doesn't come close and neither comes close to contract value via NIL, certainly not "much better."

Also, somehow the early 3rd round is a "late draft pick" but Hendon going before that was early?
 
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And risk injuring himself and millions for a meaningless game? He made the right call.


Him sitting out the game to prepare and yet fall short of his needed time as a burner hurt. Maybe having another big game against Clemson might have boosted him more. It's hindsight to guess outcomes. Neither way is assured before you choose, the results become what they are.

I just never saw him as a "burner", he faster than many, but he's not elite. He wasn't even close the the fastest on the team. Without the wiggle, juke, great hands, precision routes, coupled with his size, he's just an average to slightly above receiver. That's what the NFL thought as well. He might play above that, but it's unlikely that he'll see a second contract. Someone faster, bigger, more elusive will replace him.

Now I know his brother, father, cousin Richie and uncle will all come to his defense. I don't care, I've got you on ignore already. Said this before the draft and got proven last night. He's not Tennessee's greatest receiver, not even in the top 10. His Bkoff award doesn't mean anything against guys like Willie, Carl, Marcus, Larry and the Parks Pearless, those guys in this era, and offense would have him on the bench or transferred out.


I wish him well and if he proves me and many wrong, I hope the Tennessee fund benefits as well.
 
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Well it is a good thing that Jalin abandoned his team for the Orange Bowl. Otherwise, he may have been the 74th pick in the NFL draft instead of 73rd; which was the 10th wide receiver. Wow, VFL be damned,.... I am all about "show me the money" ..... What!?!?

Of course we didn't need him.
I’m confused.
 
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All you that are saying it was smart for Hyatt to sit out because “what if he got injured “ is just a stupid take. If thats an issue, why even play the regular season? Why even play at all? Just claim yourself as a football player, & use the university of your choice to pay for your tuition just so you can spend the next 3-4 yrs using their facilities & equipment to prepare yourself for the NFL. No need to even step on a field until that university’s pro day.
 
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No kidding…. Same for Hooker.

I disagree

the "Fighting Dan Campbells" are a bunch of knee biters as he is building a strong, positive, blue-collar culture there.

Detroit as a city is not so great and I'll take that as to what you're referring to going forward and wish you many happy returns!
 
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Him sitting out the game to prepare and yet fall short of his needed time as a burner hurt. Maybe having another big game against Clemson might have boosted him more. It's hindsight to guess outcomes. Neither way is assured before you choose, the results become what they are.

I just never saw him as a "burner", he faster than many, but he's not elite. He wasn't even close the the fastest on the team. Without the wiggle, juke, great hands, precision routes, coupled with his size, he's just an average to slightly above receiver. That's what the NFL thought as well. He might play above that, but it's unlikely that he'll see a second contract. Someone faster, bigger, more elusive will replace him.

Now I know his brother, father, cousin Richie and uncle will all come to his defense. I don't care, I've got you on ignore already. Said this before the draft and got proven last night. He's not Tennessee's greatest receiver, not even in the top 10. His Bkoff award doesn't mean anything against guys like Willie, Carl, Marcus, Larry and the Parks Pearless, those guys in this era, and offense would have him on the bench or transferred out.


I wish him well and if he proves me and many wrong, I hope the Tennessee fund benefits as well.
That’s harsh.
 
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I disagree

the "Fighting Dan Campbells" are a bunch of knee biters as he is building a strong, positive, blue-collar culture there.

Detroit as a city is not so great and I'll take that as to what you're referring to going forward and wish you many happy returns!
They badly bungled their first round.
 
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Hooker has a good situation in Detroit. Goff is in the last year of his contract, and the backup there, Sudfield, is a journeyman who hasn't thrown 20 passes in his 7/8 year NFL career, as I recall.
Goff has two more year on his contract. If he plays as well as he did the second half of last season, there’s no way Detroit will not give an extension next offseason.
 
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You don’t have millions on the line, either, Bud. Did I want him to torch Clemson? Absolutely. But he made the best decision for him and his family. He doesn’t owe you a thing. He didn’t quit. At this level, it’s a Business Decision. He gets hurt? He gets nothing. I’m going to bed.

When you can justify quitting, whether it be $1.0M or $0.01, you are a quitter and it is a slippery slope.

No he doesn't owe me a thing I don't owe him anything. This is what I believe to be true and it has served me and family well in life.
 
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#39
I hate the internet where you have the lack of sense to speak to like minded Vol fans this way. Shame that an adult has no clue how to have a difference of opinion with a bit of class.
Save the "BIG" talk for face to face conversations, but of course, you would never say that to someone face to face without getting put in your place.

Actually, I have no issue voicing my opinion face to face. If a person doesn't like what I say, they may state their argument. It would have no affect on me. Sticks and stones bud...
 
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Hooker has a good situation in Detroit. Goff is in the last year of his contract, and the backup there, Sudfield, is a journeyman who hasn't thrown 20 passes in his 7/8 year NFL career, as I recall.
True, but it’s still Detroit
 
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And risk injuring himself and millions for a meaningless game? He made the right call.

A meaningless game that had Rocky Top buzzing for weeks leading up to it, was a marquis win on the season and for the program nationally, and has been written about and posted about for weeks to follow?
Yes, he quit on his team.
 
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#45
I can pull for both teams. Grew up a Giants fan but switched to Packers when living in WI 30 years ago. And Cleveland? Always pull for the Underdog on the field if my dog is not in the hunt

PS I think Tillman will be All Pro in his second year.
 
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I can pull for both teams. Grew up a Giants fan but switched to Packers when living in WI 30 years ago. And Cleveland? Always pull for the Underdog on the field if my dog is not in the hunt

PS I think Tillman will be All Pro in his second year.
And while we might say that Tillman went in "only" the 3rd round, I do note that Cleveland did make him their very first pick.
 
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A meaningless game that had Rocky Top buzzing for weeks leading up to it, was a marquis win on the season and for the program nationally, and has been written about and posted about for weeks to follow?
Yes, he quit on his team.

Agree!

Anyone who call the bowl games meaningless can't be true college football fans. Sounds like they're bigger NFL fans than anything. Football is a team sport not individual.
 
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It’s Cleveland . That’s not a bet I’d be willing to make.
Daboll with a seemingly vested interest in landing Hyatt, makes one think he'll scheme some production out of him...since that's the narrative on him. ;)
 
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