Jamal Khashoggi

[EODVOL]

Nigeria ring a bell? Should I match your outrage over that? What's even funnier is you pulling out the service card that requires you to push Americas interest all over the world through force.

If America was to retaliate with force, I think your tune would change.

Please elaborate on the Nigeria mission and how it is comparable to Benghazi? Your ignorance on the matter is apparent so I will overlook your Nigeria statement altogether. Benghazi and Nigeria are two different animals if you had any inkling as to what you were talking about you would know this, it is like comparing apples to oranges. Do us a favor and before you start spewing your limited knowledge on military and foreign affairs, step away from the keyboard, count to three and then just delete your comment.

 

[Grand Vol]

Please elaborate on the Nigeria mission and how it is comparable to Benghazi? Your ignorance on the matter is apparent so I will overlook your Nigeria statement altogether. Benghazi and Nigeria are two different animals if you had any inkling as to what you were talking about you would know this, it is like comparing apples to oranges. Do us a favor and before you start spewing your limited knowledge on military and foreign affairs, step away from the keyboard, count to three and then just delete your comment.

On a side note and unrelated, I used to enjoy catching you Navy EOD guys hopping the fence onto Eglin AFB from the Matador instead of going all the way around to the gate.

 

[Mick]

Please elaborate on the Nigeria mission and how it is comparable to Benghazi? Your ignorance on the matter is apparent so I will overlook your Nigeria statement altogether. Benghazi and Nigeria are two different animals if you had any inkling as to what you were talking about you would know this, it is like comparing apples to oranges. Do us a favor and before you start spewing your limited knowledge on military and foreign affairs, step away from the keyboard, count to three and then just delete your comment.

Only if you can elaborate on how Benghazi is comparable to the killing of Khashoggi. Here is your but Obama post to refresh your memory.

....and the Obama administration tried to convince America that Ambassador Stevens was killed by an uprising caused by a damn video and left my brothers there to die. How about you let that stew in your head. The left pushes for justice over a foreign journalist more so than our own U.S. Ambassador. These individuals crying over this BS journalist are hypocritical at best. How unamerican is that? They need to stop with the charades and grow up and face the real world. Half the people crying over America's foreign affairs have no clue how the real world works outside their own Nirvana.

 

[EODVOL]

Exactly, So why is the left all up in arms over a journalist when they weren't over our own U.S. Ambassador? The hate for the sitting President blinds the left of rational thought, tell me whatever happened to the Dr. Ford outrage......oh wait that was last month. I look forward to seeing what November has to offer after the journalist BS blows over. By the way, you never elaborated on Nigeria, I guess more deflection. I love how the left just throws out anything, hoping it will stick. Hypocritical till the end.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Pocahontas wants probe into whether former U.S. soldiers worked as assassins for UAE

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is calling for an investigation into whether former U.S. service members engaged in assassination attempts while working for the United Arab Emirates.


"If the report that these Americans coordinated as paid mercenaries to kill individuals abroad is accurate, it raises questions about potential criminal liability for the participants — and for any U.S. government official who may have been aware of or endorsed these activities," Warren wrote in an Oct. 19 letter to the Department of Justice first obtained by BuzzFeed News.

Warren cited BuzzFeed's earlier reporting that said the UAE in 2015 hired U.S. defense company Spear Operations Group to carry out assassinations in Yemen.

Warren wants probe into whether former U.S. soldiers worked as assassins for UAE

 

[EODVOL]

Only if you can elaborate on how Benghazi is comparable to the killing of Khashoggi. Here is your but Obama post to refresh your memory.

lol Jesus man stop cherry picking and put my quote into context in which I wrote it. It was a reply to something u said that makes it relevant, you are truly horrible at dialogue and debate.

 

[Mick]

Exactly, So why is the left all up in arms over a journalist when they weren't over our own U.S. Ambassador? The hate for the sitting President blinds the left of rational thought, tell me whatever happened to the Dr. Ford outrage......oh wait that was last month. I look forward to seeing what November has to offer after the journalist BS blows over. By the way, you never elaborated on Nigeria, I guess more deflection. I love how the left just throws out anything, hoping it will stick. Hypocritical till the end.

You have to earn respect from me. When a shill throws out an "but Obama" that is deflection at it's finest. The failure of the military to act in Benghazi is troubling and I dare say that nobody on this board is OK with the inaction. I repeat nobody, but you throw it out there like it was a damn dem conspiracy to have them killed and the liberals were laughing and playing in the streets celebrating their deaths. But Obama and false narratives is all you have and you seem fine with Trump lying and trying to deceive the American people over this killing. You back on topic yet or do you want to spew more crap?

 

[EODVOL]

I don't need respect from anyone. Trust me, all the respect I need I have earned. You do realize that military Commanders take orders as well, yes? When other OGA's and higher level assets are involved those orders come from the top down, again your lack of knowledge on the matter is apparent. I never said there was a DEM conspiracy but what did occur was "misinformation" from the highest level and it just so happened to fall on the Obama administration and I will leave it at that.

 

[EODVOL]

On a side note and unrelated, I used to enjoy catching you Navy EOD guys hopping the fence onto Eglin AFB from the Matador instead of going all the way around to the gate.

Haha, would never be caught dead in that place. I am not even sure it is still around.

 

[Mick]

I don't need respect from anyone. Trust me, all the respect I need I have earned. You do realize that military Commanders take orders as well, yes? When other OGA's and higher level assets are involved those orders come from the top down, again your lack of knowledge on the matter is apparent. I never said there was a DEM conspiracy but what did occur was "misinformation" from the highest level and it just so happened to fall on the Obama administration and I will leave it at that.

So you are fine with Trump trying to deceive the American people over this killing? You can't help yourself from throwing out another false narrative that I don't understand the chain of command. Still thinking you are going to get by with a but Obama?

 

[Grand Vol]

Haha, would never be caught dead in that place. I am not even sure it is still around.

Yeah, I just Google mapped it. Apparently it still is.

The EOD School used to be right across from the bade perimeter. I'm assuming it still is.

 

[EODVOL]

Yeah, the actual schoolhouse is on the outer perimeter of the base ranges but still apart of the base. The Navy underwater portion is still located on the main base and I do believe they moved the building up near the gate entrance as well. it's changed a lot since the early 2000's. I only know this because I try and get to the memorial every year.

 

[Mick]

A top aide to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman orchestrated the brutal killing of Washington Post contributor Jamal Khashoggi via a Skype call, according to sources cited Monday by Reuters. A high-ranking Arab source told Reuters that after Khashoggi was detained in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, his captors called Saud al-Qahtani via Skype. Qahtani reportedly began yelling insults at Khashoggi, who responded in kind. Eventually, according to a Turkish intelligence source, Qahtani told Khashoggi’s captors to “bring me the head of the dog.” The recording of the Skype call is reportedly in the hands of Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, who said Sunday that he would speak more on the investigation during a Tuesday speech.

Top Saudi Aide Coordinated Khashoggi’s Killing Via Skype: Report

 

[VolStrom]

A top aide to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman orchestrated the brutal killing of Washington Post contributor Jamal Khashoggi via a Skype call, according to sources cited Monday by Reuters. A high-ranking Arab source told Reuters that after Khashoggi was detained in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, his captors called Saud al-Qahtani via Skype. Qahtani reportedly began yelling insults at Khashoggi, who responded in kind. Eventually, according to a Turkish intelligence source, Qahtani told Khashoggi’s captors to “bring me the head of the dog.” The recording of the Skype call is reportedly in the hands of Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, who said Sunday that he would speak more on the investigation during a Tuesday speech.

Top Saudi Aide Coordinated Khashoggi’s Killing Via Skype: Report

Anyone that thinks the Saudi prince is not complicit in this mans murder is delusional. Trump needs to say that he needs to go away and poof it'll happen.

 

[Mick]

Anyone that thinks the Saudi prince is not complicit in this mans murder is delusional. Trump needs to say that he needs to go away and poof it'll happen.

He has acted like a dictator in his quest to solidify power. Not sure what we could do to change the dynamics of their country at this point.

 

[Roustabout]

Outrage about how a reporter is treated. Where are the women libbers about how they treat women in SA??

 

[evillawyer]

This story gets crazier and crazier

 

[golfballs]

 

[EODVOL]

So you are fine with Trump trying to deceive the American people over this killing? You can't help yourself from throwing out another false narrative that I don't understand the chain of command. Still thinking you are going to get by with a but Obama?

Never said that what I did say was "who cares." What I did was respond to your original post to counter your complaint. You made a point about deception and I pointed out the deception of the Obama administration and how it is convenient that the left turns a blind eye when it's their party doing wrong. You are proving that you cannot follow the conversation and it appears that you easily get frustrated when I counter any BS you throw out. Look, the dude is a foreign journalist, this affects my everyday American life nil. As for your understanding of the chain of command, well your ill-informed statement of Benghazi and how you implied our military sat idly by leads one to believe that you don't. With all the issues going on in the world why does an incident such as this resonate with you so much, how does it affect you? I am sorry you are just realizing how evil and cruel the world can be, maybe if you had the media stop doing the thinking for you and you got out more you would be better off.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Pompeo: U.S. Revoking Visas of Saudi Officials Involved in Jamal Khashoggi’s Death

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced Tuesday that the U.S. will revoke the visas of Saudi Arabia officials involved in the death of Washington Post opinion writer Jamal Khashoggi.

“We have identified at least some of the individuals responsible, including those in the intelligence services, the royal court, the foreign ministry, and other Saudi ministries who we suspect to have been involved in Mr. Khashoggi’s death,” Pompeo told reporters during a press briefing at the State Department. “We are taking appropriate actions, which include revoking visas, entering visa lookouts and other measures.”

“We are also working with the Treasury Department to review the applicability of global Magnitsky sanctions to those individuals,” he added. “These penalties will not be the last word on this matter from the United States. We will continue to explore additional measures to hold those responsible accountable.”

The visa revocations are the first punitive measures taken by the administration against the Saudis since Khashoggi disappeared after entering the consulate on October 2.

Visa records are considered confidential and Pompeo did not say which or how many Saudi officials would have their visas revoked. Saudi authorities have detained 18 people in connection with Khashoggi’s death, which officials say was accidental despite Turkish allegations that Khashoggi was intentionally killed.

President Donald Trump on Tuesday also criticized the Saudi operation that killed Khashoggi, calling it one of the “worst cover-ups in the history of cover-ups.”

Pompeo: U.S. Revoking Visas of Saudi Officials Involved in Jamal Khashoggi's Death | Breitbart

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Could somebody please explain to me the jurisdiction we have in the killing of a Saudi national within the country of Turkey by 15 other Saudi nationals?

None

 

[NurseGoodVol]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Democratic Rep. Joaquin Castro: &quot;Jared Kushner may have, with U.S. intelligence, delivered a hit list, an enemies list, to the crown prince, to MBS, in Saudi Arabia and that the prince may have acted on that, and one of the people he took action against is Mr. Khashoggi.&quot; <a href="Ryan Saavedra on Twitter">pic.twitter.com/4z1xYmSrDn</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) <a href="">October 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And there’s this....

Intersting html saw a few names in there that caught my attention

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Okay Mick tell me again how many people you know that were in Benghazi, why were we aiding those rebels, why was there instability and who caused it? Quick do a google search and tell me who Governed Libya prior to the "uprising" Whose watch did all this occur on? It's okay to buy into the media propaganda. You watched a movie or two and think you know and that is okay, I expect nothing more. An Ambassador died, a false narrative was pushed. Being a CIA site is irrelevant. Just like Saudi handling their own internal affairs.

If I recall correctly, khadaffi had acquiesced to US requests and became less militant, but he was a liability. Our gov then had him killed via giving info on his location to rebels very publically setting up a new gov that caused the instability. His son also was slaughtered.

Troops that were available were put on stand down while the attack was occurring, our gov at that time came out and lied no less than 10 times about a video causing the uprising.
Certain troops knew the gov was complicit in the 4 men’s deaths. They weren’t quiet about it either. What am I missing other than Obama was president and HRC was playing at SOS?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Could somebody please explain to me the jurisdiction we have in the killing of a Saudi national within the country of Turkey by 15 other Saudi nationals?

Maginsky act. That’s why we are involved. Congress sent a letter to the president invoking the act which requires him to have findings within 120 days of the letter.

 

[EODVOL]

If I recall correctly, khadaffi had acquiesced to US requests and became less militant, but he was a liability. Our gov then had him killed via giving info on his location to rebels very publically setting up a new gov that caused the instability. His son also was slaughtered.

Troops that were available were put on stand down while the attack was occurring, our gov at that time came out and lied no less than 10 times about a video causing the uprising.
Certain troops knew the gov was complicit in the 4 men’s deaths. They weren’t quiet about it either. What am I missing other than Obama was president and HRC was playing at SOS?

Not much else but the fact that Ambassador Stevens requested an increase of security posture multiple times prior to events.