Jameis Winston back in the news again

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I think the big takeaways are 1) FSU about to charge Winston; and 2) a second reported assault.

If either is true ....
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think the big takeaways are 1) FSU about to charge Winston; and 2) a second reported assault.

If either is true ....
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What about these letters makes you come to that conclusion? Elaborate on what you're saying for those that haven't been following this very closely (mainly me).
 
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lawgator1 said:
See post 274, directly above. That is the accuser's lawyer's statement given to TMZ earlier today.
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Oh I totally missed that paragraph the first time through. You weren't saying that as your opinion but as a supposed fact iterated by the accuser's lawyer. Is that something she would be privy to, or is she just throwing shat at a wall?
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Oh I totally missed that paragraph the first time through. You weren't saying that as your opinion but as a supposed fact iterated by the accuser's lawyer. Is that something she would be privy to, or is she just throwing shat at a wall?
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That's the accuser's lawyer's rendition of events. He is saying that it was Winston's lawyer who approached them about settling, and that he flew down from Atlanta to discuss it, but opened up by saying "you client likes to ****" football players," so it blew up. He is further saying that the timing of the PR release, which claims a $7 million settlement demand, is because he knows that "Winston is about to be charged.

I am speculating openly here, but last weekend there were rumors, supposedly coming from inside the administration, that Winston was going to be expelled. Then nothing happened. One wonders whether those rumors were in fact true, and that everyone is now lining up their best arguments because if he is about to be tossed out, Winston's next stop will be NFL camps and he will have to have something to say. His best argument would be that she made it up to get money.

That could be why the timing of this. Just guessing, though.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's the accuser's lawyer's rendition of events. He is saying that it was Winston's lawyer who approached them about settling, and that he flew down from Atlanta to discuss it, but opened up by saying "you client likes to ****" football players," so it blew up. He is further saying that the timing of the PR release, which claims a $7 million settlement demand, is because he knows that "Winston is about to be charged.

I am speculating openly here, but last weekend there were rumors, supposedly coming from inside the administration, that Winston was going to be expelled. Then nothing happened. One wonders whether those rumors were in fact true, and that everyone is now lining up their best arguments because if he is about to be tossed out, Winston's next stop will be NFL camps and he will have to have something to say. His best argument would be that she made it up to get money.

That could be why the timing of this. Just guessing, though.
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Right. This seems plausible. But where is this second assault stuff coming from? The accuser's lawyer isn't saying that he himself thinks Winston is about to be charged. He says that Winston's lawyer seem to know it. I wonder if that is just speculation or if there is a cause for that verbiage.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Right. This seems plausible. But where is this second assault stuff coming from? The accuser's lawyer isn't saying that he himself thinks Winston is about to be charged. He says that Winston's lawyer seem to know it. I wonder if that is just speculation or if there is a cause for that verbiage.
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The letter to FSU agreeing to participate in the investigation, while insisting on fair treatment, gives off an air of concern. I'm sure the accuser's attorney is seizing on that.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Right. This seems plausible. But where is this second assault stuff coming from? The accuser's lawyer isn't saying that he himself thinks Winston is about to be charged. He says that Winston's lawyer seem to know it. I wonder if that is just speculation or if there is a cause for that verbiage.
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Dunno'. And those are good questions.

Supposedly the first lawyer for the accuser is going to release a statement today or tomorrow. She was in the room and is the one that Winston's lawyer is accusing of extortion. So it will be interesting what she has to say.

But taking a step back, when your goal is to have this whole sorry affair somehow fade from the headlines, it seems to me the last thing you do is send a letter, and then release it to the press, that talks about $7 million extortion demands and how Winston will cooperate, but only if its legitimate.

That has the ring of anticipating really bad juju about to come out about Winston, and that its preemptive.

Co-worker, big FSU fan, says he thinks odds are that Winston does not finish the season, and maybe not even plays again. Says Maguire better warm up for the rest of the ACC.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That has the ring of anticipating really bad juju about to come out about Winston, and that its preemptive.
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I see what you're saying. Agreed. This is not the action of a man that is trying to let his client's name fade to the back page of the news. It sounds like a man trying to get ahead of a story that hasn't been written yet.
 
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I recall reading over the weekend and/or early this week the reason for the extension of the suspension from the first half to the entire game vs. Clemson was partially (if not all) the result of JW not telling FSU the entire truth about the cafeteria incident. I'm now wondering now if that is a half-truth...perhaps JW wasn't entirely forthcoming about the alleged second incident???
 
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SamRebel35 said:
I see what you're saying. Agreed. This is not the action of a man that is trying to let his client's name fade to the back page of the news. It sounds like a man trying to get ahead of a story that hasn't been written yet.
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That's my thinking, although I don't overlook the possibility that its just a couple of lawyers with massive egos.
 
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WinginFlorida said:
I recall reading over the weekend and/or early this week the reason for the extension of the suspension from the first half to the entire game vs. Clemson was partially (if not all) the result of JW not telling FSU the entire truth about the cafeteria incident. I'm now wondering now if that is a half-truth...perhaps JW wasn't entirely forthcoming about the alleged second incident???
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Sounds to me like the cafeteria incident may have been Winston's way of coming clean about the second assault.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Shhhh.... They are "building something special" there.
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Fisher is special alright.

LG this may be the only thing nice I'll say about UF. Could you please get it together so we don't have to hear about the noles as much. Aside from making the rivalry good again.

Of course the UT side goes without saying. We have been terrible for 10 years. Hopefully this is the year but who knows.
 
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The quote of Jimbo's I read stated, "Jameis is not a bad guy, he just makes some bad decisions". Apparently, this was somewhat out of context.

I believe the entire quote was "Jameis is not a bad guy, he just makes some bad decisions. I want all of you present today to be clear on this and there is no confusion on the subject. Jameis makes a lot of bad decisions, a lot, a veritable boatload of them. I cannot emphasis enough the pluralization of decision. When I say decisions, I mean decisions with a capital S. As a matter of fact, those of us in the athletic department and the administration's offices at this fine institution have frankly lost count of the number of bad decisions Jameis has made. Seriously, how can anyone expect Jameis to be forthcoming? He's as confused as the rest of us are."
 
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Reading the FSU fan comments, it seems they fall into four camps:

1) Yay, anything to bash the accuser and her lawyer !: 80 %

2) Panic ! Winston is outta here: 17 %

3) Crayons taste funny: 2 %

4) Let's all be rational and think this through when we have more evidence: 1 %
 
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