Jerry Green /// Food for thought?

#51
#51
rockydoc said:
Green's results speak for themselves: Four twenty plus win seasons and four NCAA tourney appearances in four years. It will push Pearl to match that.

BTW, how many NCAA tourney appearances did your hero Kevin O'Neil make at UT? The person that you thought would ressurect Arizona.........What a loser.
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Agreed. At least Green knows when to quit, O'Neil continues to fail everywhere he goes.
 
#53
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rockydoc said:
For all of his negatives, including the personality of a tree sloth, remember JG lead UT to four NCAA appearances in four years including a sweet sixteen and a conference championship (tie).

It appears that we may not make the Big Dance this year unless we get hot in the SEC tourney. I'm not suggesting that Green is better than Pearl but his results are comparable so far.
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Bruce Pearl---> teaches the game. has a definite direction.

Jerry Green----> looked like homer simpson drooling over a doughnut during basketball games.


Also the talent Jerry Green vs Bruce Pearl isn't comparable. For those who say, "well how many of those players made it in the league", the European leagues are filled with college stars whose game didn't coincide with the NBA. This doesn't mean they weren't great college bball players though.
 
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I find it very difficult to comprehend that people with the IQ required to connect to the Internet, open Internet Explorer, and post on this website try to defend the coaching acumen of Jerry Green. Because honestly that is all the IQ required to understand just how poorly coached the Jerry Green teams were. Atrocious. To refuse to acknowledge the amount of talent on those teams is only further evidence against any of your insight.
 
#57
#57
I actually saw something on the way to the airport this morning that made me think of Jed. There's a road sign across from Percy Priest Dam that says "Argosy University, Art Institute of Nashville, and Tennessee School for the Blind." I think it's very nice to see a sign commemorating Green's nonconference schedules.
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ole_boi said:
Bruce Pearl---> teaches the game. has a definite direction.

Jerry Green----> looked like homer simpson drooling over a doughnut during basketball games.


Also the talent Jerry Green vs Bruce Pearl isn't comparable. For those who say, "well how many of those players made it in the league", the European leagues are filled with college stars whose game didn't coincide with the NBA. This doesn't mean they weren't great college bball players though.
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Which is what?
 
#59
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therickbol said:
I find it very difficult to comprehend that people with the IQ required to connect to the Internet, open Internet Explorer, and post on this website try to defend the coaching acumen of Jerry Green. Because honestly that is all the IQ required to understand just how poorly coached the Jerry Green teams were. Atrocious. To refuse to acknowledge the amount of talent on those teams is only further evidence against any of your insight.
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Its called winning percentage. Green won more than O'Neill, Peterson, and Houston... period.
 
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allvol said:
Its called winning percentage. Green won more than O'Neill, Peterson, and Houston... period.
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So if I was named the coach of the Cleveland Cavs for a season then I would be one of the best coaches in the NBA? Because at the end of the season, even with me coaching, I would have a better winning percentage than most all other NBA coaches that season. Its quite near-sighted if all you look at is winning percentage. Circumstances come into play. Green was a horrible coach. Bottom line. An average coach would have had a better winning percentage than he did with that group of talent, especially considering the schedule he had them playing.
 
#61
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therickbol said:
So if I was named the coach of the Cleveland Cavs for a season then I would be one of the best coaches in the NBA? Because at the end of the season, even with me coaching, I would have a better winning percentage than most all other NBA coaches that season. Its quite near-sighted if all you look at is winning percentage. Circumstances come into play. Green was a horrible coach. Bottom line. An average coach would have had a better winning percentage than he did with that group of talent, especially considering the schedule he had them playing.
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An average coach would have also found subsequent employment.
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#63
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orangesox said:
That is the ultimate "what could have been" moment in UT basketball history (at least as far back as I can remember). I think it was the first time I ever got my heart broken by a UT basketball game.:no:
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I would rank the Ohio State loss in the tournament up there in terms of disappointment and what could have been.
 
#64
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allvol said:
Its called winning percentage. Green won more than O'Neill, Peterson, and Houston... period.
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Using such simplistic logic...yes you are right. But that's the only way you'd be right about Jerry Green.

And it's laughable that you think Jerry Green "knows when to quit" coaching. He didn't make that decision, everyone else that could have hired him did.
 
#65
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Godfatha said:
I would rank the Ohio State loss in the tournament up there in terms of disappointment and what could have been.
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I kind of have them tied. I would give the OSU more of a pass but we were up by almost 20. We were the underdog in that game so that's why losing wouldn't have been so bad but it's the way we lost.

The UNC game, we were the favorite, UNC had gotten on a bit of a lucky roll, and we controlled pretty much the whole game. We were up 8 or so with 3:00 left. Had we just played smart basketball, we would have won, but in almost an instant we blew the game. And the sad part was, you could almost feel the exact moment it started happening....like watching a car crash in slow motion that you can't avoid. I almost turned it off because I just got the sinking feeling that the Vols were going to blow it. I had the same feeling about the Cubs in 2003 immediately after the Bartman incident. It's one of the worst feelings I've had...a slow dread that I can't avoid.

So I guess the UNC loss is a bit above the OSU loss, but not by much. Both left me feeling like I wanted to puke.
 
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rockydoc said:
1) Tony Harris was a bum who choked at tourney time.
2) If Hathaway and Black were such defensive forces why did Julius Peppers and Brenden Haywood eat them alive in the NCAA round of 16.
3) Ron Slay.....selfish and no defense.
4)Vincent Yarbrough.......starter for the Nuggets? Check your stats. He played in only 59 games and was cut.
5)Jon Higgins..... I'd take Juawn Smith over him every time.

Coming off the dismal Wade Houston/Kevin O'Neil years we all thought that Green didn't get enough out of the talent that he had but other than Slay being the SEC player of the year one year none of thes guys were second or first team All Americans and none of them played any significant time in the NBA.
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If Bruce Pearl had been our coach and had coached all of those guys for four years, we would have won a national championship and they would all still be playing in the NBA now.

Green was a poor game-day coach and he failed to develop his players. Even worse, he had players regress under his coaching. Tony Harris got worse the longer he played at UT. Ron Slay had his best season after Green was long gone.

And, as someone else already mentioned, Brendan Haywood didn't eat anyone alive that night. Haywood was a pussy who wouldn't mix it up with anyone and he played like a pussy that night. Unless he was playing The Citadel or had Peppers in the game to do his dirty work, he was useless. Carolina fans called him "Brenda", but I refuse to do that because I have a friend named Brenda who's tougher than Haywood ever was.
 
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Godfatha said:
I would rank the Ohio State loss in the tournament up there in terms of disappointment and what could have been.
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I rank it above Ohio State (which also sucked- a lot) because if UT could have pulled out that game against UNC, who's to say what could have happened the rest of that tourney. A win that night probably changed the program forever. Instead, it just turned out to be the same old thing.
 
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