Jimmy cheek email concerning UT internal affairs

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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Does this involve the football team? Any inside info?
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Inside info - it involves the university as a whole. It may impact the football team and it may not. If it impacts the team it may come out of the blue and have nothing to do with who everyone thinks may be involved.
 
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volmanbill said:
The University has no business acting as judge and jury on sexual assault cases.
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It doesn't necessarily involve assault. It can be a simple as unwanted texts or phone calls that don't stop after being told to stop. It can involve snide comments made under someones breath in a class room. This situation can be so much more than what is traditionally thought of as sexual assault, but under the law all complaints have to be handled by the university, and on most of them, that do not reach the status of being a criminal offense the university has to be judge and jury.
 
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i have 3 daughters if the school didn't respond correctly then they should be heads that roll. all sexual attacks not done by football players.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would have been shocked to have read the link and not seen Anita Wadhwani's name either quoted or in some way out in front of it. We do have two former players that are about to stand trial for rape and while that's very bad, there is no evidence to suggest that rape is going unpunished among our athletes or that there is a permissive culture of sexual assault on our campus. Anita Wadhwani will do her muckraking but it's entirely possible that the other players that have been accused but never charged (most notably Pearson) did not actually commit an assault. The first time I read a report that doesn't involve her or include her name is when I will actually worry about this. She has an agenda against our school and is pushing it - very hard.
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Run her ass out of Knoxville.
 
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utvols88 said:
Then it's irresponsible journalism.



Surprise. Lol
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No disagreement here. Had to read it a couple of times because the list of football players was confusing. The Tennessean article is purely written to suggest is a football oasis and the bleacher report article is pure garbage. Here's the only relevant part
UT Chancellor Jimmy Cheek said the university had been notified that an individual had filed a complaint with the federal government regarding the university’s response to a report of sexual violence.
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As a father of 3, I'm not in favor or supportive of any prejudice, malice, attack, sexual advances, etc. Those that commit crimes of this sort must pay the price (the full price)....

....but....

Do we really need the Feds on this? I mean, we have campus police, Knoxville police, county police/Sheriff's office, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, District Attorney, etc. I'm not in favor of the "Feds" rolling in whenever they want to doing whatever they want to. There are protocols which law enforcement follows. Not everything is a federal case - even though may in federal government want it to be so.

Many in the federal government are proposing a "national police force" to replace city, county and state police. If this proposition doesn't alarm you, you're ill-informed of both human behavior and history.
 
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I believe civil rights investigations/violations are on the federal level. This has nothing to do with some brown shirt conspiracy
 
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Yeah, I heard this too. They will be in Knoxville as soon as they finish up at florida State, which means probably not in my lifetime!!! HA
 
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As a public we do not know the real facts. But, if the name of the Tennessee Football program was smeared in The Tennessean, I would expect Dave Hart and Butch Jones to fire all of their guns to expose their method of slime journalism. I would very much question a lack of response from UT.
 
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onevol74 said:
As a public we do not know the real facts. But, if the name of the Tennessee Football program was smeared in The Tennessean, I would expect Dave Hart and Butch Jones to fire all of their guns to expose their method of slime journalism. I would very much question a lack of response from UT.
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What was in the article that was untrue?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would have been shocked to have read the link and not seen Anita Wadhwani's name either quoted or in some way out in front of it. We do have two former players that are about to stand trial for rape and while that's very bad, there is no evidence to suggest that rape is going unpunished among our athletes or that there is a permissive culture of sexual assault on our campus. Anita Wadhwani will do her muckraking but it's entirely possible that the other players that have been accused but never charged (most notably Pearson) did not actually commit an assault. The first time I read a report that doesn't involve her or include her name is when I will actually worry about this. She has an agenda against our school and is pushing it - very hard.
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or the paper/her editor have put her in the position that makes these stories her job
 
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dbarker said:
Anyone have a summary of what's going on and the problems we can face?
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Currently the fear is on a University of Tennessee level, not the athletics at the University of Tennessee. An unnamed complainant is accusing the University for mishandling a situation of rape and/or sexual assault.
 
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utvols74 said:
As a father of 3, I'm not in favor or supportive of any prejudice, malice, attack, sexual advances, etc. Those that commit crimes of this sort must pay the price (the full price)....

....but....

Do we really need the Feds on this? I mean, we have campus police, Knoxville police, county police/Sheriff's office, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, District Attorney, etc. I'm not in favor of the "Feds" rolling in whenever they want to doing whatever they want to. There are protocols which law enforcement follows. Not everything is a federal case - even though may in federal government want it to be so.

Many in the federal government are proposing a "national police force" to replace city, county and state police. If this proposition doesn't alarm you, you're ill-informed of both human behavior and history.
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You hit the nail on the head. Local authorities can deal with this. The feds are ignoring their responsibilities by allowing illegal aliens and foreign motivated terrorists to kill our citizens while using resources to do what the locals can handle. Their focus is entirely political and is not to keep us safe.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
You hit the nail on the head. Local authorities can deal with this. The feds are ignoring their responsibilities by allowing illegal aliens and foreign motivated terrorists to kill our citizens while using resources to do what the locals can handle. Their focus is entirely political and is not to keep us safe.
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You think the UTPD/KPD is equipped to handle civil rights investigations?
 
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volroadwarrior said:
You hit the nail on the head. Local authorities can deal with this. The feds are ignoring their responsibilities by allowing illegal aliens and foreign motivated terrorists to kill our citizens while using resources to do what the locals can handle. Their focus is entirely political and is not to keep us safe.
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considering this is a problem at universities across the nation, it's good to have a group within law enforcement at the national level that regulates and ensures US universities are doing all the right things with their sexual assault investigations and that they are not impeding on the rights of those within the cases
 
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VN has been the first to yell over and over again that these football players' rights need to be maintained and that they are to be considered innocent until proven guilty. Yet when a few FBI investigators come in, possibly to ensure that this is the case, VN gets angry at them.
 
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The Obama administration issued new guidelines for universities to decide to kick one accused of rape out of school if the "preponderance of the evidence" suggests he did it instead of "beyond a reasonable doubt" like in a criminal court trial. Kicking a man out of college has a life long effect on him. I think it was Emerson that had a case where the guy was thrown out after a hearing where he was not allowed to have a lawyer. After he was kicked out, he hired an investigator who uncovered some text messages she had made that were very incriminating to her. She bragged to a friend about inviting another man over to have sex with after the supposed rape.
 
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Michigan had a pretty damning case last year, I think.

Actually, I think it was 2012, but the story was finished last year when he was supposed to have graduated.
 
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crusse10 said:
or the paper/her editor have put her in the position that makes these stories her job
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Not that anything in the article was untrue. She used the football players as her evidence in the article when there is no stated evidence in her article this complaint is related to the athletes at all at this point. IF she is an accurate reporter she would name the specifics of the complaint that is relevant to 95 percent of her written article. That is slimey journalism.
 
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