Jimmy Cheek

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jefferson said:
This is nonsense. Remember Omari Phillips? He didn't get into UF so we took him. Last I checked UF blows UT away in academic rankings as well as football most years so there should be no reason why academic standards would hurt our football recruiting. You can be a top 25 research university and kick ass on the football field too. Look at Florida, Georgia, A&M, etc.

It's pretty easy to say "to hell with academics" when you didn't attend UT, or any college for that matter. I'm a UT student right now and I want my degree to be worth at least the paper it's printed on.
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Did I misspell all my words, or make some insane remarks that would lead you to believe Im an idiot? I am a college grad and medical professional for 18 yrs, which is probably how old you are. I know what college is for but you are naive to think that academics is what fuels these schools. Why does everyone get up in arms when a football coach gets fired, but never notices that a professor did? Because football is what drives these schools and their fanbases to ensure that that billion dollar revenue is there each yr. Don't blame me for football being more interesting than trig. Thats just the truth. Sorry if I offended you. Gees...Im sure your degree will be worth the paper its printed on......unless its in businesd abmin.
 
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volzfanz said:
Did I misspell all my words, or make some insane remarks that would lead you to believe Im an idiot? I am a college grad and medical professional for 18 yrs, which is probably how old you are. I know what college is for but you are naive to think that academics is what fuels these schools. Why does everyone get up in arms when a football coach gets fired, but never notices that a professor did? Because football is what drives these schools and their fanbases to ensure that that billion dollar revenue is there each yr. Don't blame me for football being more interesting than trig. Thats just the truth. Sorry if I offended you. Gees...Im sure your degree will be worth the paper its printed on......unless its in businesd abmin.
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University of Phoenix doesn't count.

To the bold: yes.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Jesus Christ.

Public universities aren't for-profit entities. Good luck finding information on how much profit UT turned.

The biggest chunk comes from tuition and fees.
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No it doesnt. It comes from merchandise sales, tv endorsements, and boosters who arent there for academics I assure you. I thot you would have known that. Did you not wonder why every school with as many students as UT isnt also bringing in a billiin dollars every yr? Maybe our tuition is just higher i guess huh? May wanna be sure you are the smartest person in the room before you start name calling there genius.
 
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volzfanz said:
No it doesnt. It comes from merchandise sales, tv endorsements, and boosters who arent there for academics I assure you. I thot you would have known that. Did you not wonder why every school with as many students as UT isnt also bringing in a billiin dollars every yr? Maybe our tuition is just higher i guess huh? May wanna be sure you are the smartest person in the room before you start name calling there genius.
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The University of Tennessee | System Budget Office
 
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volzfanz said:
Did I misspell all my words, or make some insane remarks that would lead you to believe Im an idiot? I am a college grad and medical professional for 18 yrs, which is probably how old you are. I know what college is for but you are naive to think that academics is what fuels these schools. Why does everyone get up in arms when a football coach gets fired, but never notices that a professor did? Because football is what drives these schools and their fanbases to ensure that that billion dollar revenue is there each yr. Don't blame me for football being more interesting than trig. Thats just the truth. Sorry if I offended you. Gees...Im sure your degree will be worth the paper its printed on......unless its in businesd abmin.
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I wasn't calling you out, my apologies if I hit a nerve. My point is that you don't have to sacrifice one to improve the other. There are plenty of schools with excellent academics and athletics (Florida, Texas, Stanford, etc.).

I just see a lot of lesser educated folks ranting about how academics aren't important and we should lower our standards to make us more competitive athletically. Our AD is self-sufficient financially anyway. You're a college graduate and medical professional so I am not going to insult your intelligence.

You didn't offend me. No hard feelings. I'm 21 and an accounting major so hopefully I won't be flipping burgers.:p Well if this coaching search continues much longer I will fail my final exams because I'm on this website!!
 
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Lessee. The Phil fiasco was 5 years ago, the Lame train left and the Dooley desperation hire will be 4 yrs old in January.

The UTAD was put under the direction of Chancellor Cheek just 26 months ago. Hammy and 4 presidents had already done the damage - fiscally and otherwise.

And didn't Cheek just absolve the athletics dept of a 3mil/yr obligation to academics?
 
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#1VolStar said:
There is to much learning going on in that school!!
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It's ironic that someone babbles on about school of higher learning, but doesn't realize he is mismanaging the financing that allows all of these research programs to exist. This line of thinking is why an incompetent agenda based goon is allowed to continue to run this school into the ground. Not only do I support firing him, but right know I would like to fire off on his fat chipmunk looking face.
 
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Wow you are just a kid arent you? You think non-profit entities dont have profits. Well i mean they are called non-profit and all. Im an administrator at the second largest hospital organization in this state. My non-profit org just bought a minor league baseball team. How is that possible? What did you think? UT spends all of the money each yr and then starts from scratch again or something?
 
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therealitytheory said:
Lessee. The Phil fiasco was 5 years ago, the Lame train left and the Dooley desperation hire will be 4 yrs old in January.

The UTAD was put under the direction of Chancellor Cheek just 26 months ago. Hammy and 4 presidents had already done the damage - fiscally and otherwise.

And didn't Cheek just absolve the athletics dept of a 3mil/yr obligation to academics?
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You mean the same 'obligation' he created himself when 'yes' man Hamilton was his puppet?
 
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sanddune50 said:
It's ironic that someone babbles on about school of higher learning, but don't realize he is mismanaging the financing that allows all of these research programs to exist. This line of thinking is why an incompetent agenda based goon is allowed to continue to run this school into the ground. Not only do I support firing him, but right know I would like to fire off on his fat chipmunk looking face.
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I support firing him 100%.

I simply get annoyed by the tards who say Tennessee should lower academic standards to support football because without sports the school wouldn't exist.
 
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Anyone who thinks this school is non-profit or broke or strapped for cash or anything remotely close is misled. This is exactly why people are disgusted with this coaching search. UT has enough money to get into a bidding war with any college in the country for a coach.....and most nfl teams too. Cheeks may not free the money up from whatever asset he has it placed in. But then again, fans may stop going to games. They may stop watching on tv. They may stop buying t-shirts and hoodies for 50 bucks a pop. Then the damn nerds can pay their own tuition and the players as well and we can close this website down and all just get along. Some advice for the kid on here and cheeks as well.....dont bite the hand that feeds you, cause one day it may just stop and slap the sh*t out of you.
 
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volzfanz said:
Anyone who thinks this school is non-profit or broke or strapped for cash or anything remotely close is misled. This is exactly why people are disgusted with this coaching search. UT has enough money to get into a bidding war with any college in the country for a coach.....and most nfl teams too. Cheeks may not free the money up from whatever asset he has it placed in. But then again, fans may stop going to games. They may stop watching on tv. They may stop buying t-shirts and hoodies for 50 bucks a pop. Then the damn nerds can pay their own tuition and the players as well and we can close this website down and all just get along. Some advice for the kid on here and cheeks as well.....dont bite the hand that feeds you, cause one day it may just stop and slap the sh*t out of you.
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Who thinks the school is broke?

Nonprofit is basically an accounting term. Tennessee doesn't turn a profit. It's fact.

You seem to think the AD pumps all the money into the university. I've provided you with evidence that contradicts your silly notion, and you choose to ignore it. 40% of the school's revenues come from tuition. The AD is a completely separate entity, and, in fact, the university just returned donated money to the AD to help pay for coaching buyouts and hires.

I'm truly sorry that people as lazy as you exist. All it takes is two seconds of research to realize you're wrong. For this reason, along with the fact that you're incapable of consistent, intelligible type, it's apparent you likely barely earned a GED and probably work the counter at a 7-11. I'm not sure what idiot would hire you to work at a position any higher than that.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
I support firing him 100%.

I simply get annoyed by the tards who say Tennessee should lower academic standards to support football because without sports the school wouldn't exist.
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Hate to break it to you but there are no academic standards when it comes to a great college football player. Not here or anywhere else. And the school would not exist, in the same capacity, without sports. Who gets on a forum about football and talks about academics being the "important" thing anyway?
 
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volzfanz said:
Hate to break it to you but there are no academic standards when it comes to a great college football player. Not here or anywhere else. And the school would not exist, in the same capacity, without sports. Who gets on a forum about football and talks about academics being the "important" thing anyway?
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Someone who enjoys sports but realizes the true intent of a university, perhaps?
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Who thinks the school is broke?

Nonprofit is basically an accounting term. Tennessee doesn't turn a profit. It's fact.

You seem to think the AD pumps all the money into the university. I've provided you with evidence that contradicts your silly notion, and you choose to ignore it. 40% of the school's revenues come from tuition. The AD is a completely separate entity, and, in fact, the university just returned donated money to the AD to help pay for coaching buyouts and hires.

I'm truly sorry that people as lazy as you exist. All it takes is two seconds of research to realize you're wrong. For this reason, along with the fact that you're incapable of consistent, intelligible type, it's apparent you likely barely earned a GED and probably work the counter at a 7-11. I'm not sure what idiot would hire you to work at a position any higher than that.
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This is like talking to one of my own kids. You obviously understand that nonprofit companies have affiliations with other entities. Now you can start to see the bigger picture. They also own other entities. Although the nonprofit organization cant show a significant profit, the separate entity can profit as much as it likes. Im gonna refrain from calling you a retard, or unintelligent, or lazy, or idiot or any others you may have thrown at me because Im sure you are frustrated over the administrations handling of this situation as well. Just dont think you are intellectually superior to everyone because you are going to college. I have completed what you are just now undertaking so who is actually the idiot?
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Who thinks the school is broke?

Nonprofit is basically an accounting term. Tennessee doesn't turn a profit. It's fact.

You seem to think the AD pumps all the money into the university. I've provided you with evidence that contradicts your silly notion, and you choose to ignore it. 40% of the school's revenues come from tuition. The AD is a completely separate entity, and, in fact, the university just returned donated money to the AD to help pay for coaching buyouts and hires.

I'm truly sorry that people as lazy as you exist. All it takes is two seconds of research to realize you're wrong. For this reason, along with the fact that you're incapable of consistent, intelligible type, it's apparent you likely barely earned a GED and probably work the counter at a 7-11. I'm not sure what idiot would hire you to work at a position any higher than that.
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The Business Of College Football - Forbes

This article from Forbes suggests otherwise. If you were to click the profit column in descending order, you will notice that Tennessee is ranked 9th in profit margin and 12th in market value.

As for the non-profits can't yield a profit comment, that's not true. A non-profit can generate a profit, it just can't distribute it. All a profit is, is revenue minus expense. Non-profits keep their profit margin in a surplus to further their mission, which in our case is feed Cheek and the incompetent liberal arts chick, who is in a financial position she has no business being in, money for them to blindly mismanage it without the fear of transparency to expose their agenda.
 
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Today is a happy day for me. Today we landed a very good coach and will be ready to start seeing some actual improvement going into the 2013 season. I miss that fire. I miss going into games feeling like we have a chance to win and not just hope to keep it close. This is a good day to be a Tennessee Vol.


With that said,


FIRE CHEEK MONDAY!! I think Dave Hart is doing a fine job.

Today, is Butch Jones's day.
 
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jefferson said:
This is nonsense. Remember Omari Phillips? He didn't get into UF so we took him. Last I checked UF blows UT away in academic rankings as well as football most years so there should be no reason why academic standards would hurt our football recruiting. You can be a top 25 research university and kick ass on the football field too. Look at Florida, Georgia, A&M, etc.

It's pretty easy to say "to hell with academics" when you didn't attend UT, or any college for that matter. I'm a UT student right now and I want my degree to be worth at least the paper it's printed on.
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You don't understand the issue. UT has no basketweaving programs for football players. They do not treat transfer credits and do not transfer grades the same way. That is the essence of the problem, not admission standards being so much higher than Fla, Ga, etc.
 
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1967vol said:
You don't understand the issue. UT has no basketweaving programs for football players. They do not treat transfer credits and do not transfer grades the same way. That is the essence of the problem, not admission standards being so much higher than Fla, Ga, etc.
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Exactly, They have a broken process that needs to be fixed. And if Cheek would do his job and worry more about broken processes such as this instead of gathering all of the money from the athletic department like some old miser, we would be able to field a higher level team to compete against the rest of the conference.
 
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therealitytheory said:
Lessee. The Phil fiasco was 5 years ago, the Lame train left and the Dooley desperation hire will be 4 yrs old in January.

The UTAD was put under the direction of Chancellor Cheek just 26 months ago. Hammy and 4 presidents had already done the damage - fiscally and otherwise.

And didn't Cheek just absolve the athletics dept of a 3mil/yr obligation to academics?
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The real damage he's done is to attempt to impose Ivy League type admissions standards on our athletes. That's not what this school is. No one is saying they have to be in the gutter, but they don't belong in the other extreme, either.
 
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Come on people! I certainly didn't attend Ut because of its reputation as a prestigious university! I went for the football and fun with the chance I'd learn something if I wanted to!

I mean heck! My husband went to Ga Tech to be an engineer and when he changed majors, he decided to go somewhere fun instead of being surrounded by nerds and ended up at UGA.

If you want Ivy League academic there are schools for that.

I want chills when I hear Rocky Top and see the team run through the T knowing they're going to beat the crap out of whoever they're playing.
 
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barney said:
Chancellor Cheek is the reason why the AD has no money. He is the reason why we are at a competitive disadvantage with everyone else. He is the reason why all our players were failing last spring. He is the reason why we can't find a coach.

Until UT's administration makes a commitment to our AD, Tennessee football will never return to greatness. That won't happen as long as Cheek and his cronies are around.

Fire Him!
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Academics will realize that he just wasted 18 mil of their money as well soon. And he really does not have a plan on how to replace it. lol
 
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WildAsAMink said:
Come on people! I certainly didn't attend Ut because of its reputation as a prestigious university! I went for the football and fun with the chance I'd learn something if I wanted to!

I mean heck! My husband went to Ga Tech to be an engineer and when he changed majors, he decided to go somewhere fun instead of being surrounded by nerds and ended up at UGA.

If you want Ivy League academic there are schools for that.

I want chills when I hear Rocky Top and see the team run through the T knowing they're going to beat the crap out of whoever they're playing.
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How's life in the trailer park?
 
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