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Cash Vallin said:
tell that to the 240,000 people who now have jobs in the private sector... yes, there is a long way to go, still... but this recent finding can only be classified as a good sign - you know that is unless you hate obama
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Are you saying people are rooting against the economy?

We're just saying that it isn't clear that we are through the woods yet, and even if we are starting to drift back up again it isn't very fast.

And I am not holding anyone politically accountable for that. Presidents get way too much credit and blame for the economy.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
tell that to the 240,000 people who now have jobs in the private sector... yes, there is a long way to go, still... but this recent finding can only be classified as a good sign - you know that is unless you hate obama
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you consider the census the private sector?
 
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utvolpj said:
people finding jobs is good but acting like the numbers are going down (which is the point of your thread right?) is wrong. Larger unemployment numbers do not help Obama and the Dems like you claim
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OK, fair point... but have another 200,000 people find jobs next month... then the next... then the next....

unemployment will go down with those numbers. is it substainable, i don't know. nobody knows. nobody expected this big of a jump this month.
 
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IPorange said:
Are you saying people are rooting against the economy?

We're just saying that it isn't clear that we are through the woods yet, and even if we are starting to drift back up again it isn't very fast.

And I am not holding anyone politically accountable for that. Presidents get way too much credit and blame for the economy.
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yes, it wouldn't surprise me if people were rooting against the improvement of the economy since they want a change in congress and the presidency.

improved job numbers= a less likelyhood of that happening.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
so you're telling me 240,000 more people with jobs in the PRIVATE sector isn't a good sign???? if a republican was in office, you'd be jumping for joy. yes, there is still a loooooooooong way to go, but it's a positive sign.
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Net job loss is a problem, especially when the hole is already deep and we lied America into OKing a trillion dollar stimulus package that was about job creation.

It isn't about who's in office. It's about a poor economy and investors being afraid because the tax hammer has to eventually drop.
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It's amazing Cash Vallin. Many on this forum had me pegged as a tree-hugging, Che Guevara T-shirt-wearing, Prius driving far left liberal.

By being so ridiculously partisan to the left, you are allowing me to actually show a little context to my leanings. Thanks for providing others with perspective.
 
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droski said:
you consider the census the private sector?
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the roughly 240,000 was without the census.... try reading the article.


edit: to be exact "But private employers -- the backbone of the economy -- contributed the most: A surprisingly strong 231,000 jobs, the most since March 2006, the Labor Department said Friday."
 
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IPorange said:
It's amazing Cash Vallin. Many on this forum had me pegged as a tree-hugging, Che Guevara T-shirt-wearing, Prius driving far left liberal.

By being so ridiculously partisan to the left, you are allowing me to actually show a little context to my leanings. Thanks for providing others with perspective.
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no problem... glad i could help.
 
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I wonder how many of those census jobs have been contracted out?
 
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Cash Vallin said:
Largest hiring burst in years, but jobless rate up - Yahoo! Finance

it was posted right under the initial post by somebody else... plus, don't act like the video was from just some random person on the internet. it was from a news organization.
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One that cheer leads for the current administration, pardon my skepticism. I guess you believe blindly anything from FOX news as well?

Like I said earlier, I wonder how many of these jobs created in the private sector are contracts for census work.
 
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KB5252 said:
One that cheer leads for the current administration, pardon my skepticism. I guess you believe blindly anything from FOX news as well?

Like I said earlier, I wonder how many of these jobs created in the private sector are contracts for census work.
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you'll say that about anything i post.. plus, just looked at foxnews homepage... NOTHING about the job report. that's all i need to know.
 
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KB5252 said:
I did, you submitted for evidence a u-tube video. My facts are straight.
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and the video said what i was backing... you chose to ignore it.. instead coming up with random assertions about census workers being contracted out
 
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all things considered it's a positive sign.

The jobless percentage (to the extent it is accurate) is the bigger issue though. As the pop. grows there is job growth (in general) but if the absolute job growth is less than pop growth then the % unemployed grows - this is the source of costs.

Bottomline, I'm more concerned about unemployment %'s.
 
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volinbham said:
all things considered it's a positive sign.

The jobless percentage (to the extent it is accurate) is the bigger issue though. As the pop. grows there is job growth (in general) but if the absolute job growth is less than pop growth then the % unemployed grows - this is the source of costs.

Bottomline, I'm more concerned about unemployment %'s.
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i think being more concerned about unemployment %'s is a valid point. but create 200,000 jobs a month for several months and that % will go down.

will that happen?? nobody knows, but there has to be an initial step in all recovery efforts and this could be it. then again, maybe not. we shall see.
 
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Granted the job creation numbers are better, but could that economist have possibly softballed his analysis on the unemployment number more? He sounded like one of those hacks in a post debate spin room.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
you'll say that about anything i post.. plus, just looked at foxnews homepage... NOTHING about the job report. that's all i need to know.
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Only that which is questionable. I asked a question and you referred an article you didn't even post which countered your rosy outlook for the future. Later you backtracked because it was pointed out how premature any notion of a serious rebound was not in evidence to this point.

Wow, you mean news organizations slant the news to fit their ideals.......who would have known?
 
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Cash Vallin said:
i think being more concerned about unemployment %'s is a valid point. but create 200,000 jobs a month for several months and that % will go down.
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actually most economists estimate you need 350K+ job growth the seriously impact the unemployment number
 
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Cash Vallin said:
and the video said what i was backing... you chose to ignore it.. instead coming up with random assertions about census workers being contracted out
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Silly me, I should have completely ignored Obama when he stated they would do as much.

You're beyond belief. I don't know whether to laugh hysterically or sob openly.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
i think being more concerned about unemployment %'s is a valid point. but create 200,000 jobs a month for several months and that % will go down.

will that happen?? nobody knows, but there has to be an initial step in all recovery efforts and this could be it. then again, maybe not. we shall see.
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The economy constantly adds large numbers of jobs. Dont let the historical, since 06, language fool you. This malaise we're in started later that year.
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