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#153
it seems to me that for the last quarter of a century by far the most jobs created have been low paying jobs. It seems to just keep gong on and on.

I am not quite sure that deregulation of the financial services industry in the 1980's was a good idea. But, I am not a Harvard economist, so what the heck do I know?
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
Okay. Who's getting trained? How much will it cost? How many jobs is this program going to create? How many people will be able to leave the dole once the program is completed? What are these jobs "of the future"? Will the taxpayers have to invest in machinery or hardware, or is this a simple skills plan? How much will that cost? Is this indefinite? Will we need to create another government agency to administer the program? If not, which government agency will administer the program? Will there be any overlap with other government agencies? How much? Will this add to any deficits?

These are questions that will we asked and resolved by a CEO in the private sector before any money is spent, and this is why the government will ALWAYS fail with these so-called jobs bills.

The government does not create jobs. The government will never create jobs. And they will never be able to administer a program of this scope without wasting billions. GOVERNMENT SPENDING WILL NEVER GROW AN ECONOMY.
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His post wasn't about creating jobs. It was about training unskilled workers for jobs that already exist.
 
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utvolpj said:
I didn't get past his first sentence. Anyone using those numbers should be ashamed
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Puhleeeese... look at the Great Society and all that money that's been pumped into government schools. With the trillions already spent it's simply unbelievable that anyone wouldn't have the education and skills necessary to be a productive citizen.

I'm sure just a few billion more will finally solve the problem. It's a government program! What could possibly go wrong?
 
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I have complained about the Tea Party as much if not more than anyone on the board. My tea party congressman shoots out an email about a bill that overwhelming passed the house and senate, I say I am proud of congress and the majority of feedback here has been negative. What a change. Gramps is supporting a Tea Party backed bill and some that call themselves conservative are complaining about it. Go figure.
 
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lawgator1 said:
"Meanwhile, the unemployment rate is now 6.1%, down from 6.3% in May. The drop came for the right reasons: More Americans said they had jobs, plus more people joined the labor force.

Another encouraging sign: pay is on the rise. Hourly wages ticked up 0.2% in June and are up 2% in the past 12 months.

Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen has said she wants to see wages rising faster than inflation. If average Americans see their buying power rise, that could boost consumer spending -- the single biggest driver of the U.S. economy."
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wages are not going to rise -- companies are still waiting for unrealisitic profits with no competition
 
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Gramps said:
I have complained about the Tea Party as much if not more than anyone on the board. My tea party congressman shoots out an email about a bill that overwhelming passed the house and senate, I say I am proud of congress and the majority of feedback here has been negative. What a change. Gramps is supporting a Tea Party backed bill and some that call themselves conservative are complaining about it. Go figure.
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Tea Party-backed bill? No. Roe assumed office 2 years before the Tea Party came around. This is another example of establishment Republicrats and Demicans coming together for a circle jerk and a "bi-partisan" agreement. It's going to be another waste of taxpayer money, just like every other government initiative that purports to save people from themselves.

I'm complaining about it because I live in fiscal and social reality.
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
Tea Party-backed bill? No. Roe assumed office 2 years before the Tea Party came around. This is another example of establishment Republicrats and Demicans coming together for a circle jerk and a "bi-partisan" agreement. It's going to be another waste of taxpayer money, just like every other government initiative that purports to save people from themselves.

I'm complaining about it because I live in fiscal and social reality.
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Roe was elected to Congress in 2008 in a district that a R has won in every election since 1880. He is a member of the Tea Party Caucus and a co sponsor of HR 803. A bill sponsored by a Repub with 23 Repub cosponsors and zero Dems. Those big spending republicans are at it again, spending money foolishly according to some of you.
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
Tea Party-backed bill? No. Roe assumed office 2 years before the Tea Party came around. This is another example of establishment Republicrats and Demicans coming together for a circle jerk and a "bi-partisan" agreement. It's going to be another waste of taxpayer money, just like every other government initiative that purports to save people from themselves.




I'm complaining about it because I live in fiscal and social reality.
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How quaint..










It's a shame more folks don't share that view.
 
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Gramps said:
Roe was elected to Congress in 2008 in a district that a R has won in every election since 1880. He is a member of the Tea Party Caucus and a co sponsor of HR 803. A bill sponsored by a Repub with 23 Repub cosponsors and zero Dems. Those big spending republicans are at it again, spending money foolishly according to some of you.
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Great, Roe is from a heavily Republican district. It doesn't change the fact that the tea party to Roe was something snooty British bi*ches did on Sunday when he was running for office. He just jumped on the bandwagon.

As to your second point, yes, the Republicrats are at it again. The one-party system consisting of the Republicrats and Demicans will come together, pat each other on the back for a job well done, and waste several billion dollars. Didn't the first 20 trillion they spent on social welfare do the trick? It's simply amazing that anyone would live below the poverty line with that kind of money. How much more will it take? Just give me a ballpark figure.
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
I'm desperately trying here. After all my posts in the politics forum, I don't think I can say anything else to change minds. People can either accept reality or continue to live in fantasy land.
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You're one of the smartest posters on this board, keep it going..
 
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Republicans and Democrats are two sides to the same coin. Gramps thinks because some Republican sponsored a spending bill conservatives should all be in favor of it. We conservatives mostly vote Republican because Republican politicians talk a good game and tend to be more conservative than Democrats. But, that doesn't mean because a bill is sponsored by a Republican then conservatives should like it. We citizens have to hold their feet to the fire.
 
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Sandvol said:
Republicans and Democrats are two sides to the same coin. Gramps thinks because some Republican sponsored a spending bill conservatives should all be in favor of it. We conservatives mostly vote Republican because Republican politicians talk a good game and tend to be more conservative than Democrats. But, that doesn't mean because a bill is sponsored by a Republican then conservatives should like it. We citizens have to hold their feet to the fire.
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I always say there is no difference in the two parties , both are big spenders search my postings.
The bold is the problem I have wrong with the republican party. They claim to be financial conservative but govern just the opposite. They are no more financially conservative than the Dems only bigger hypocrites on financial matters.. On social issues the GOP talks conservative and do govern socially conservative.
 
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Gramps said:
I always say there is no difference in the two parties , both are big spenders search my postings.
The bold is the problem I have wrong with the republican party. They claim to be financial conservative but govern just the opposite. They are no more financially conservative than the Dems only bigger hypocrites on financial matters.. On social issues the GOP talks conservative and do govern socially conservative.
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More accurate to say they govern others conservatively.
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
And with the Dums I get gun bans and fascist mandates. I'll take my chances with the Republicrats at the moment until a viable third party comes along and finally does the right thing.
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I have voted 3rd in last few presidential elections. The dems are for gun legislation and more government regulations. They campaign on those issues. You vote Democrat you know you are voting for someone that is for those policies. Republicans campaign for smaller government, less spending etc. In most cases we do not what we are getting until they get into office. Under Republican control we have expanded government by adding new federal departments, increased taxes, expanded entitlement programs yet they campaign for reelections as being the party of fiscal conservatism and our idiot voters fall in line, reelect them then blame all the problems on the dems. Anyone that takes an impartial look at the two parties and the way they govern realizes one side is as bad as the other.
 
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Gramps said:
I have voted 3rd in last few presidential elections. The dems are for gun legislation and more government regulations. They campaign on those issues. You vote Democrat you know you are voting for someone that is for those policies. Republicans campaign for smaller government, less spending etc. In most cases we do not what we are getting until they get into office. Under Republican control we have expanded government by adding new federal departments, increased taxes, expanded entitlement programs yet they campaign for reelections as being the party of fiscal conservatism and our idiot voters fall in line, reelect them then blame all the problems on the dems. Anyone that takes an impartial look at the two parties and the way they govern realizes one side is as bad as the other.
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:wink2: Yep, that's America alright.
 
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Gramps said:
Under Republican control we have expanded government by adding new federal departments, increased taxes, expanded entitlement programs.
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I sincerely apologize if I missed something. Gramps, aren't you giving Congress a pat on the back for this exact thing in this thread?
 
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