Joe Milton compared to Will Levis

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SpookyAction said:
This is a bit forward thinking on Bowl Day, but

If Will Levis' physical attributes and football abilities make him a top NFL Draft prospect,
shouldn't Joe Milton be projected as a top Draft prospect next season, given the same metrics that elevate Levis' draft stock?

Milton has glaring weaknesses to overcome, but they are no worse than Levis' negatives, IMO.
Milton's strengths are comparable to Levis'.
What do you think?
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wrong! According to some on here, Milton is the 2nd coming of JG. UT will not win a single game as long as Milton is starting QB, & CJH needs to be fired
 
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SpookyAction said:
This is a bit forward thinking on Bowl Day, but

If Will Levis' physical attributes and football abilities make him a top NFL Draft prospect,
shouldn't Joe Milton be projected as a top Draft prospect next season, given the same metrics that elevate Levis' draft stock?

Milton has glaring weaknesses to overcome, but they are no worse than Levis' negatives, IMO.
Milton's strengths are comparable to Levis'.
What do you think?
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I hope he for him and us delivers before he goes to the NFL if he does. We didn't recruit him so he could go pro with his physical attributes. I liked what I saw tonight. His best full game performance as a Vol by far. Same goes for #5.
 
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Wolfeman_Vol said:
I agree. I mean, we've seen Milton make some bad decisions and bad throws, but his stats are better than Levis's (with less of a sample here, given)... AND he's a much, much better athlete. Don't know if that'll translate into draft impact, but Levis was average if there ever was average. I can't understand all the leg humping.
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I may be proven wrong but I truly hope the Titans don't pick him
 
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Milton runs oddly and his pocket presence seems suspect at times.
 
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Wolfeman_Vol said:
I agree. I mean, we've seen Milton make some bad decisions and bad throws, but his stats are better than Levis's (with less of a sample here, given)... AND he's a much, much better athlete. Don't know if that'll translate into draft impact, but Levis was average if there ever was average. I can't understand all the leg humping.
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Levis and Richardson are going to cost 2 head coaches and two gms their jobs.
 
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SpookyAction said:
This is a bit forward thinking on Bowl Day, but

If Will Levis' physical attributes and football abilities make him a top NFL Draft prospect,
shouldn't Joe Milton be projected as a top Draft prospect next season, given the same metrics that elevate Levis' draft stock?

Milton has glaring weaknesses to overcome, but they are no worse than Levis' negatives, IMO.
Milton's strengths are comparable to Levis'.
What do you think?
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I've had this same thought.
 
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posivol said:
had a couple 10 yard runs,1 called back on a bogus hold.i think he's still learning to see the holes and when to run .he only had 1 overthrow,big improvement.he has a nfl arm,more than you can say for levis/richardson.
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He’s still not fully comfortable, but I bet after the win and getting the MVP, we will see a much different QB next season. This should do wonders for his confidence.
 
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GregAmsler said:
I mean, Shuler is up there.
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Shuler is up there, but Leaf is still a much bigger bust IMO.

Shuler's NFL career was bad, but I do wonder how much of that was the result of poor luck (bad situation + injuries). Success in the NFL, more than success in any other professional league, is tied to a lot of luck factors with teammates / coaches / staff / GM. A really good baseball player will still look good even on a bad team. A really good basketball player could still take his team to the NBA playoffs on a bad team (see Luka Doncic). But even the best football player can still look terrible in the wrong spot. Shuler did not land in a good spot with Washington and injuries also hampered his career greatly. I don't think he would've ever become a great NFL QB regardless, but maybe in a more ideal situation, he could've become a career backup QB, who slowly developed like Josh Dobbs.

Whereas, I'm not convinced Ryan Leaf would've succeeded even in the best of worlds. Same deal with JaMarcus Russell and Johnny Manziel. I'd consider all 3 of them bigger busts than Shuler.
 
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I think it’s as simple as NFL scouts and coaches know a little more about football than any of us forum posters do.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Shuler is up there, but Leaf is still a much bigger bust IMO.

Shuler's NFL career was bad, but I do wonder how much of that was the result of poor luck (bad situation + injuries). Success in the NFL, more than success in any other professional league, is tied to a lot of luck factors with teammates / coaches / staff / GM. A really good baseball player will still look good even on a bad team. A really good basketball player could still take his team to the NBA playoffs on a bad team (see Luka Doncic). But even the best football player can still look terrible in the wrong spot. Shuler did not land in a good spot with Washington and injuries also hampered his career greatly. I don't think he would've ever become a great NFL QB regardless, but maybe in a more ideal situation, he could've become a career backup QB, who slowly developed like Josh Dobbs.

Whereas, I'm not convinced Ryan Leaf would've succeeded even in the best of worlds. Same deal with JaMarcus Russell and Johnny Manziel. I'd consider all 3 of them bigger busts than Shuler.
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Agree with all of that.
 
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Bloodrunsorange27 said:
Too draft prospects earn it by what they achieve on the field. Not for having the potential to achieve something. Milton hasn’t achieved anything on the field at this point and has shown a lot of weaknesses. He has the physical tools so hopefully he can overcome the weaknesses in his game to be a top draft prospect.
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Is this serious? All prospects are drafted on potential.

We can argue whether or not scouts place more value on performance (regardless of competition levels) or tools / upside. But either way, future potential is the only real question.
 
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