Joel Klatt brings the truth

#2
#2
No, screw that noise. Duped? Pot. Kettle. REALLY BLACK. The sports media are the biggest ones who ran their mouths last year about how Tennessee was "back." And Joel Klatt was one of them. They're the ones who spent the entire season talking up Tennessee, or Milton, or the system, with their "expert opinions." Oh so sorry it's not amazing like last year, I guess Tennessee just totally sucks. Better toss them back in the dumpster. "Duped." What a load of hyperbolic crap.

And also, just real big fat tip of the sarcastic hat to Mr. Klatt for managing to work more praise for Nick Saban into his snide commentary about Tennessee. Of course. Never fails.

I know one thing - if Tennessee does work out its problems, I don't want hear any effusive fake praise from Klatt or any of the other internet sports media monkeys. I don't want to hear a word of it. They better keep right on walking.
 
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That's a pretty tough pill to swallow. Hope he's wrong. The fear is CJH runs a 'gimmick' offense that can light you up, but once good d-cordinators figure out a solution, you're toast. FL figured out a solution. But it's also alarming that we were so out-manned and beat up on the O & D lines.
 
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I don't feel duped. I'm much more disappointed than anything. Disappointed in the mental effort and toughness of this team in the face of adversity. Disappointed in the apparent lack of preparation.

When asked about discipline after the game Saturday, Aaron Beasley looked at the floor, stumbled around searching for words, and eventually said "No, I'm not surprised" about the lack of discipline on the field, based on what he had seen during training camp.

This team has plenty of talent that aren't living up to their potential. We don't need Joe to be Hendon. We just need Joe to take the top off the defense after our OL and Rbs establish the run. Suck'em in and then throw over the top. We know he can do that. We have seen him do it. We don't need Crawford or Mincey to be Darnell. What we need is this OL work as a unit, communicate, execute the play, and run the dang ball. We know they're capable, but they can't average 6 penalties a game and get into rhythm. They can run the ball when they work together, but they have been inconsistent at best. His offense relies on the running game to get the one on ones in the backend.

That's the most disappointing part. I really thought after last season this team would know what it takes and be more mentally prepared than they are. I don't know if its confidence or just not taking their job seriously or both, but it's holding them back.
 
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loservol said:
I don't totally agree with his take. I think losing Golesh is what has really hurt the team this year.
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It's not Golesh's system. It's the system that Heupel has been running since he was the OC at Utah State in 2015. Golesh wasn't even with Heupel until his 2nd season at Central Florida and it's unclear how much play-calling responsibility Golesh ever actually had.

This guy doesn't really say much except that Hooker isn't as good as Milton (duh) and Hyatt and Tillman haven't been replaced by quality WR's ... and our offensive line is not as good. While all true, it ignores the fact that we have a 5 star QB waiting in the wings (Iamaleava), and a 5 star WR committed (Mike Matthews).

I don't believe that Tennessee fans thought we had elevated to the point of being a program which reloads. We lost too much to attrition during the coaching change to have the kind of depth you need to lose quality talent without skipping a beat. The real test for Heupel will come with how the offense looks with players that he has signed (in other words, Iamaleava). Just like Tennessee fans, this guy is going overboard way too soon.
 
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JGS III said:
I actually agree with what he said and he said he was duped as well. Based off last year we were on the rise but after 3 games in it’s obvious that we are not. I think he speaking facts.
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He is ignoring the fact that due to the coaching change, and the pending investigation Tennessee didn't have a signing class of 2021 to speak of .... and so are you.

Heupel wasn't hired until January 28th. That hurt.
 
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Chitlin&theDude said:
That's a pretty tough pill to swallow. Hope he's wrong. The fear is CJH runs a 'gimmick' offense that can light you up, but once good d-cordinators figure out a solution, you're toast. FL figured out a solution. But it's also alarming that we were so out-manned and beat up on the O & D lines.
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Florida didn't have to defend the same plays that we were running against them last season.
 
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I’m a huge fan of Heupel and the veer and shoot. Honestly, when Hooker was cooking last year the “system” looked different. The idea he runs a gimmick offense is bs. Look at his body of work. The big questions are can he evaluate talent at the SEC level and can he tailor his play calling to SEC defenses in a down year? If he can’t do those things then we become a team that builds and peaks every two to three years. Or we become a team like Georgia or Alabama and reload every year. Time will tell.
 
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bofa25 said:
I’m a huge fan of Heupel and the veer and shoot. Honestly, when Hooker was cooking last year the “system” looked different. The idea he runs a gimmick offense is bs. Look at his body of work. The big questions are can he evaluate talent at the SEC level and can he tailor his play calling to SEC defenses in a down year? If he can’t do those things then we become a team that builds and peaks every two to three years. Or we become a team like Georgia or Alabama and reload every year. Time will tell.
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Even at our best, I think that is who we are ... but there is nothing wrong with that. We don't have the recruiting base to be a program which reloads.
 
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Chitlin&theDude said:
That's a pretty tough pill to swallow. Hope he's wrong. The fear is CJH runs a 'gimmick' offense that can light you up, but once good d-cordinators figure out a solution, you're toast. FL figured out a solution. But it's also alarming that we were so out-manned and beat up on the O & D lines.
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At this point, what is gimmicky about spreading the defense out and using tempo?
 
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Chitlin&theDude said:
That's a pretty tough pill to swallow. Hope he's wrong. The fear is CJH runs a 'gimmick' offense that can light you up, but once good d-cordinators figure out a solution, you're toast. FL figured out a solution. But it's also alarming that we were so out-manned and beat up on the O & D lines.
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That fear is only realized if the development of the team allows it. The OL was so bad that UF could stop a 7 man offensive box with 5 guys. It doesn’t matter what offense you run if you can’t win 7 on 5.
 
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People keep acting like this is the first time TN has shat the bed against FL.

I'm not remotely pleased with what we have seen the past 2 games but there is a LOT of season left to be played. I'm usually the biggest Negavol around but the overreaction to the FL loss is a bit much right now.

And Saturday is a big chance for a " get right" game before heading into the meat of the schedule.

We are about to find out what kind of coach Heupel is and what kind of staff he put together along with the character of the players.

Put up another dud against UTSA and I'll start changing my tune.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's not Golesh's system. It's the system that Heupel has been running since he was the OC at Utah State in 2015. Golesh wasn't even with Heupel until his 2nd season at Central Florida and it's unclear how much play-calling responsibility Golesh ever actually had.

This guy doesn't really say much except that Hooker isn't as good as Milton (duh) and Hyatt and Tillman haven't been replaced by quality WR's ... and our offensive line is not as good. While all true, it ignores the fact that we have a 5 star QB waiting in the wings (Iamaleava), and a 5 star WR committed (Mike Matthews).

I don't believe that Tennessee fans thought we had elevated to the point of being a program which reloads. We lost too much to attrition during the coaching change to have the kind of depth you need to lose quality talent without skipping a beat. The real test for Heupel will come with how the offense looks with players that he has signed (in other words, Iamaleava). Just like Tennessee fans, this guy is going overboard way too soon.
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I agree with some of his points and disagree with others.

Agree
FL loss is inexcusable if we are the program we thought we were or going to be. The manner in which they dominated the majority of the game is not a good sign.

Disagree
Hooker - Great year. Is he a Cam Newton program changing player? I'm not sure that's close to the case. He was benched at Tech and didn't beat out Milton in camp here. Good gamer and did a great job for us though.
Hyatt - Had one breakout year and two forgettable ones. Program changing player? I don't think so.
Tillman - Low rated recruit. Improved each year. Solid player. Program changing? I don't think so.

My concerns
Was Heup's downward trend at UCF a forecaster? I'm in no way familiar with his run there other than replacing Frost and having great offense. It's clear that we lack discipline on both sides of the ball. Not a good look for a team loaded up with upper classmen. Does he have the demeanor and skills to continually build the infrastructure of a program?
For an offensive guru, I think it's a bad sign that our OL is as bad as it is. In year 3, it should be better. I can live with a bad defense, if the offense is producing. To this point, it's not.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
He is ignoring the fact that due to the coaching change, and the pending investigation Tennessee didn't have a signing class of 2021 to speak of .... and so are you.

Heupel wasn't hired until January 28th. That hurt.
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I can agree with that but I think you are missing the point. Strictly based off last year there is not one person that would have thought they we were going to look how we have looked through the first 3 games (we were ranked 11 for a reason). It has be embarrassing.
 
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You folks who take this stuff seriously crack me up.

Media pay now is based on clicks. What's the easiest way to get a large number of clicks? Say anything (good or bad) about teams with large vocal fanbases lol.

Use the formula correctly and you can make a large amount of money while basically saying nothing.
 
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GAVol said:
At this point, what is gimmicky about spreading the defense out and using tempo?
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Nothing. Gimmicky probably isn't the best word. Obviously JH has a good offensive mind. But it's still a line of scrimmage game. The team that wins the lines, wins the game. The FL game is a great example. 'Tempo and spreading the field' don't mean much when you get owned on the line scrimmage.
 
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When you coach scared, it shows the team you don't believe. If they know the coaches don't believe, the players won't either. Don't overthink things and just run the offense instead of this WR screen crap. UF showed what the rest of the SEC will do to this "game plan". Run the damned offense and show some faith in your team. Will they make mistakes? Sure. Will they lose games? Definitely. If we lose being who and what we are, so be it, but go down swinging instead of being timid and conservative. And for the love of Pete, do it on BOTH sides of the ball. I'd rather give up a big play being aggressive that to suffer a death by a thousand cuts. Let 'em go and see what happens. Never know....they might surprise us all. In any event, it won't be that passive chit of last Saturday.
 
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