John Adams gets on board

[macrovol]

Not today, Satan.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I'm still in awe that people pay to read this clown's articles.

Me too. Too many VN'ers still haven't learned the Purity Milk philosophy, namely' "Pay nooooo tenshun to kangaroos."

 

[DPMVOLS]

He made Fulmer's job a lot harder especially in recruiting with the things he wrote... and especially early on in Fulmer's decline.

Funny... the media around Bama and UGA don't tend to lift their leg on the program they cover.

PS- I'm pretty sure Adams is an LSU grad. Take that as you will.

Well Fineturd was a UT grad so you think he would throw a little sunshine towards UT sometime and he doesn't. So, why would we expect anyone else to when all they're putting out there is click bait anyway for the best fan base in the nation to get riled up over.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I've listened to Adams on Basilio a bit recently, and the guy is pretty darned knowledgeable, and very pro-Vol. Not sure where the hate is flowing from.

And in his defense, the Program WAS in pretty sorry shape the past two decades. What was he supposed to say?

 

[OrangeTsar]

He made Fulmer's job a lot harder especially in recruiting with the things he wrote... and especially early on in Fulmer's decline.

Funny... the media around Bama and UGA don't tend to lift their leg on the program they cover.

PS- I'm pretty sure Adams is an LSU grad. Take that as you will.

FULMER made Fulmer’s job a lot harder

 

[sjt18]

FULMER made Fulmer’s job a lot harder

No dispute there. All I said was Adams unnecessarily piled on to the situation.

 

[Sstterry]

Who cares what that smart-a$$ idiot Adams thinks? He is just clawing to remain relevant.

 

[CINCYVOL]

Any journalist who tried to put lipstick on the smelly turd of the past 15 years woulda lost all credibility.

Seriously, what would you folks want the media to do? We sucked. They reported it. No need to shoot the messenger.

Check out some of his articles in the 90’s, he’s a turd.

 

[DaddyChad]

John Adams licks his finger and sticks it up to see in which direction the wind is blowing.

I’ll tell you what he can do with that finger….

 

[DaddyChad]

Any journalist who tried to put lipstick on the smelly turd of the past 15 years woulda lost all credibility.

Seriously, what would you folks want the media to do? We sucked. They reported it. No need to shoot the messenger.

Knoxville media for the most part has sucked arse for a lot longer than that.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Check out some of his articles in the 90’s, he’s a turd.

Those were in those paper thingies right? What were they called again? Newpapers or something like that used to wrap fish in them back in the day

 

[temptn]

It’s a trap don’t fall for it

 

[BestCaseOntario]

A columnist's job is to write opinion pieces, not pump up or sugar coat the local team's success or lack thereof.

I think he's pretty objective on what he writes and talks about regarding UT and that's his job, like it or not.

 

[DaddyChad]

A columnist's job is to write opinion pieces, not pump up or sugar coat the local team's success or lack thereof.

I think he's pretty objective on what he writes and talks about regarding UT and that's his job, like it or not.

He’s a pretty miserable bastard whether Tennessee is good on the field or not. If you want to call that objective, be my guess.

 

[CINCYVOL]

A columnist's job is to write opinion pieces, not pump up or sugar coat the local team's success or lack thereof.

I think he's pretty objective on what he writes and talks about regarding UT and that's his job, like it or not.

His opinion sucks.

 

[Volunteer_Kirby]

He's not wrong, Bama has shown they are not nearly as disciplined as years past. I believe they rank 100+ in penalties.

 

[OrangeTsar]

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

This right here, he is the main reason I dropped KNS.

He got the KNS out front in the demise of print sports reporting. I too dropped the paper and refused to sign back up with the hundreds of calls to the landline through the years.

 

[onevol74]

I have never understood why we continue to tolerate John Adams as the Sports Editor of the News Sentinel. We have had some great ones in Tom Siler and Marvin West. Plainly Adams is the South end of a North bound mule!

Ben Byrd

 

[Biso]

Their soft coverage was there before they were good. Almost like an arm of the program.

I don't mind objective journalism and Fulmer did plenty to criticize. Adams went too far IMO. He hammered some topics that he had to know would hurt recruiting like the player discipline issues.

Didn't Adams turn out to be correct about player discipline under Fulmer? It was becoming an embarrassment. Why are we assuming his motive was to hurt recruiting? Maybe he was just a journalist doing what they're supposed to do -- which is be objective and hold people in positions of authority accountable. I get why Adams rubs people the wrong way...any sports columnist who is good at his job will do that. But there's no way his motive is to sabotage the program. Adams (and any other writer on the UT beat) gets far more "clicks" and attention when UT is good than they do when UT sucks. Just like the folks who make their living selling apparel and memorabilia. I was in Hound Dogs at Cedar Bluff yesterday and there were more people in there than I can ever recall seeing before. If we had access to Adams' numbers, I'm betting the same would be true of them. Interest is sky high because fans are glued in.

I'd much rather have columnists on the UT beat who can be objectively negative when the need arises as opposed to being cheerleaders. There are plenty of cheerleaders on message boards.

 

[OrangeWayOfLife]

Some of y’all need to go listen to the first hour of basilio today. After the dale jones call they got to talking about this game and what it means and even ole John got choked up

 

[sjt18]

Didn't Adams turn out to be correct about player discipline under Fulmer? It was becoming an embarrassment.

Yes.

That is how Adams treated every bit of bad news out of UT football at that time. It wasn't a matter of him being wrong though I think there were several instances when he wrote past the actual facts. It was the way he harped on it. All UT media covered it in pretty good and critical detail. The national media was on it. Rival media had a field day. There was no absence of coverage.... and yet Adams made it his hobby horse.

Why are we assuming his motive was to hurt recruiting?

Who said he had that specific intent? I think he wrote like a malicious jackass with an ax to grind. I'm not sure he had any intentions except to gratify his own bloodlust. The effect however... was damage to program image (not just Fulmer) and to recruiting.

Maybe he was just a journalist doing what they're supposed to do -- which is be objective and hold people in positions of authority accountable.

There were a lot of UT covering media who did just that. He was by no great stretch of the imagination "objective". He wrote as if it was personal... that Fulmer had peed on his tires or something.

I get why Adams rubs people the wrong way...any sports columnist who is good at his job will do that.

That's not true. That's not true at all. You can easily write the truth and be objectively critical without being a crusader like he was. He seemed to be on a mission to see Fulmer fired. I personally think Fulmer deserved to be fired and maybe sooner than he was. However that should be a product of the facts and his conduct... not a blowhard with a column.

But there's no way his motive is to sabotage the program.

Did you read what he wrote at the time?

Adams (and any other writer on the UT beat) gets far more "clicks" and attention when UT is good than they do when UT sucks.

Maybe. But they may get more "clicks" when they do what he did when UT sucks.

Just like the folks who make their living selling apparel and memorabilia. I was in Hound Dogs at Cedar Bluff yesterday and there were more people in there than I can ever recall seeing before. If we had access to Adams' numbers, I'm betting the same would be true of them. Interest is sky high because fans are glued in.

I don't deny that Adams is trying to jump on the bandwagon now. I personally respect him even less considering his past for trying to capitalize on UT's success.

[quote[I'd much rather have columnists on the UT beat who can be objectively negative when the need arises as opposed to being cheerleaders. There are plenty of cheerleaders on message boards.[/QUOTE]Me too. He just went well beyond that.

He also wrote some undermining pieces if I remember correctly during one or more of UT's coaching searches.

Here's a more recent "flavor" of what I'm talking about. This isn't "objective"... it drips with venom and condemnation. Did Heupel really not realize how much time was on the clock or is Adams "talking" out of his rear?

And mind you this is mild compared to the stuff he was putting out around the time Fulmer was fired.Strange calls by Josh Heupel, officials decisive against Tennessee Vols in Music City Bowl | Adams

 

[MurphyVol]

I've listened to Adams on Basilio a bit recently, and the guy is pretty darned knowledgeable, and very pro-Vol. Not sure where the hate is flowing from.

He once accurately called out a lie that Casey Clausen said. Everyone got hurt in the feels but it was an accurate article.

 

[JoAllan]

Hasn’t he been dead for like 136 years?

 

[Biso]

That's not true. That's not true at all. You can easily write the truth and be objectively critical without being a crusader like he was. He seemed to be on a mission to see Fulmer fired. I personally think Fulmer deserved to be fired and maybe sooner than he was. However that should be a product of the facts and his conduct... not a blowhard with a column.

It is the literal goal of columnists to elicit reaction from you, the reader. It's the reason for their existence. They aren't breaking news, they're giving their opinion about things we already know. If they're dry and boring, nobody reads them. The best ones in the business (think Pat Forde, Barrett Sallee, Dan Wolken, etc.) are the ones we all love to hate, because they're writing with an intent to elicit reaction. I hate most of them too, especially Wolken. I think he's a condescending jackass. John Adams comes across as an arrogant prick because it's his job to come off as an arrogant prick. But he's actually a very good writer, and you'd be surprised by how much he loves UT.