John Mayer- Battle Studies

#54
#54
GahLee said:
Agreed, his music has plenty of emotion, it's more of a complex emotion...some people prefer the more juvenile approach...to each their own.
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You're giving him WAY to much credit here. It's the same thing with Clapton. They both can play, I just don't feel anything. Mayer is just more theatrical about it.
 
#55
#55
Roughneck said:
Not me, because its boring and has no emotion.
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Technically speaking, he's a pretty good guitarist, but I agree with you. It's rather bland and it seems as though he NEEDS his vocals to induce any sort of emotional connectivity with his audience.

And no, it's not 'too complex.' The man isn't humble at all, and it comes out in his recent records. I can't feel emotions from pompous jerks who w**** themselves to entertainment networks for attention.
 
#56
#56
The "emotion" may not be (and certainly does not come across as) complex, but the guitar technique certainly is.
 
#57
#57
volinbham said:
Personality shouldn't matter but it works it's way in. Every time I've heard the guy talk I've thought d-bag. It shouldn't detract from his music but for me it does. Plus, most of what I've heard from the guy I don't like but a lot of what I like other people don't - no biggie. I see that people who like him also tend to like Dave Matthews. That's another act I don't care for even though I recognize the talent. I don't see him as being as pretentious as Mayer but in the end who cares what I think!
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There are a lot of words you could use to describe John Mayer. Pretentious is not one of them.
 
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#58
Roughneck said:
You're giving him WAY to much credit here. It's the same thing with Clapton. They both can play, I just don't feel anything. Mayer is just more theatrical about it.
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His music deals with complex issues that most all of us go through, now he doesn't have the raw emotion an artist like SRV had, his music makes you think, thus creating emotion.

Well for me his music does anyway, lot of his songs I can relate to...to each their own.

You may not like who he is, or his voice, but nobody should doubt his song writing ability, his ability on a guitar or his gift for melody.
 
#59
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GahLee said:
His music deals with complex issues that most all of us go through, now he doesn't have the raw emotion an artist like SRV had, his music makes you think, thus creating emotion.

Well for me his music does anyway, lot of his songs I can relate to...to each their own.

You may not like who he is, or his voice, but nobody should doubt his song writing ability, his ability on a guitar or his gift for melody.
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Have you built a statue in his honor yet? I've heard his songs and they don't do anything for me. Most of them are pretty straightforward. The guy can play a mean technical guitar but to say that you can't doubt any of his ability is absurd. There are very few people in music history that fall into that category.
 
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#60
Roughneck said:
Have you built a statue in his honor yet? I've heard his songs and they don't do anything for me. Most of them are pretty straightforward. The guy can play a mean technical guitar but to say that you can't doubt any of his ability is absurd. There are very few people in music history that fall into that category.
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I would argue that there are a great number of people in music history that fall into that category. There are countless musicians in certain genres that I don't even care for who I still respect for their "ability."

It's totally cool if you don't like JM's songs. Still, calling his songs "straightforward" is an extreme oversight.
 
#61
#61
Tier 1: Jimi Hendrix, Duane Allman, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Chuck Berry, Robert Johnson, Eric Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, and Jimmy Page.

Tier 2: Everyone else.

Mayer is closer to tier 1 than tier 2.

His future music obviously will determine if he'll be in the same breath as the legends.
 
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#62
Kiffin61 said:
Tier 1: Jimi Hendrix, Duane Allman, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Chuck Berry, Robert Johnson, Eric Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, and Jimmy Page.

Tier 2: Everyone else.

Mayer is closer to tier 1 than tier 2.

His future music obviously will determine if he'll be in the same breath as the legends.
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You could put a bunch more folks into tier one...guy like Satch Boogie and Vai are unbelievable, their music doesn't move me in anyway but their talent is undeniable.
 
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