Jon Gruden calls Butch

[golfballs]

So they didn't wear long sleeves and ran 130 extra yards at the end of the 1st and 3rd Quarter to prove they're not tired or affected by the elements.

Great sentiments coach, but you lost.

Maybe they should have worn sleeves?

 

[Spartacavolus]

My son went and sat in a deer stand for 4 hours the other day. It was about 20 degrees with 20-30 mph wins. Does that mean I'm a great father?

Were you in it with him?

 

[Pig Skin]

When it's warm Butch wears sleeves to show he's not bothered by the heat! :rock:

He even buttons the top button when wearing polos.

 

[sjt18]

Yes! Brought that boy up right!!! Did he see or get anything??:hi:

Nah. Saw a basket buck but nothing worth shooting.

 

[sjt18]

Were you in it with him?

Not since he was about 9... He's 6'3" and weighs over 200 lbs now.

 

[sjt18]

So butch ain't going to get it done? Right?

Make your call.

Already gave you an opinion. I am neither God nor stupid... therefore I do not make ironclad predictions about future events.

 

[allvol123]

Already gave you an opinion. I am neither God nor stupid... therefore I do not make ironclad predictions about future events.

I missed it.

Of course it is not ironclad, that is why it is a prediction.

Call it. Better than being someone that dances around and criticizes for years and then says I told you so at the end.

He will make it here, I have no reservations in calling it.

 

[QVOL81]

P p p pretty green bud, all in my blood

 

[tnvols72]

so it wasn't the Grey jerseys that lost the game.

 

[AlaskaVol]

Instead of Shower Discipline we now have Sleeve Discipline

I don't care what anybody says, that was funny.

 

[NWGVol]

I missed it.

Of course it is not ironclad, that is why it is a prediction.

Call it. Better than being someone that dances around and criticizes for years and then says I told you so at the end.

He will make it here, I have no reservations in calling it.

Sjt prefers to sit on the fence. He uses the word "if" a lot. That way, he can never be wrong.

 

[sjt18]

Sjt prefers to sit on the fence. He uses the word "if" a lot. That way, he can never be wrong.

Nope. I give my opinions... I just don't claim to know things I have no ability to know. If you don't like honesty... that's your issue.

And for someone who sits on the fence... I've been getting quite a bit of hate lately for giving honest assessments of the coaching job this staff did this year.

 

[sjt18]

I missed it.

Of course it is not ironclad, that is why it is a prediction.

Call it. Better than being someone that dances around and criticizes for years and then says I told you so at the end.

He will make it here, I have no reservations in calling it.

I see nothing in the performance that suggests this is the right staff. They will need to do a complete 180 and overachieve next year's roster to the same degree they underachieved this one to survive intact IMO.

If next year is as bad as this one, Jones faces a tough choice between keeping his staff and changing. Neither choice has a high probability of success.

He will sit pretty much where Dooley and Fulmer did the year before they were let go.

Possibly the worst of all outcomes for the program would be Jones having two losing seasons then surviving because of a 6 or 7 win season in year 3.

 

[byobbio]

I see nothing in the performance that suggests this is the right staff. They will need to do a complete 180 and overachieve next year's roster to the same degree they underachieved this one to survive intact IMO.

If next year is as bad as this one, Jones faces a tough choice between keeping his staff and changing. Neither choice has a high probability of success.

He will sit pretty much where Dooley and Fulmer did the year before they were let go.

Possibly the worst of all outcomes for the program would be Jones having two losing seasons then surviving because of a 6 or 7 win season in year 3.

It took you 27,675 posts to finally pull this one out? I don't think anybody predicted we would win 8 games this year, did they? Well, we came within a poor decision of giving the ball back to UGA and a terrible officiating review of going 7-5 (with a win at KY) and that's pretty close to 8 victories. Granted, I think we should win those close games. That's how fulmer got a bunch of his wins. But, you still have to remember, we beat a top 10 team in SC and about beat UGA. We lost two games to MIz and Aub that we thought would be winnable at the beg of the season. And that's how people were coming up with 6-7 wins. I think we did ok. I'm not ready to crown this guy or anything, but you can't tell me that he's hitting on all cylinders and he's got commitments from some really strong talent.

We just inherited a slow, untalented team. He's doing what he can but facts are facts. There just isn't any talent on the team.

Like fulmer says, it's not the Xs and Os it's the Jimmies and JOes.

 

[livefaith]

Not since he was about 9... He's 6'3" and weighs over 200 lbs now.

Uh, not being nosey or anything here. But, I have two simple questions.

1. Does he have any eligibility?
2. Can he play QB or DB?

 

[BennisDrewer]

It could be because it's 2:30 and I'm a little out of it....But I have no clue what's going on in this damn thread.

 

[Titan&Volfan4life]

I don't think anyone in the country expected allBarn or Mizzou to be as good as they are this season but better talent and a system that's been in place for several years does make a difference with far less mistakes on gameday.

Vandy simply does have a bit more talent and lots more speed than we have right now despite everyone not wanting to admit it.

When we recruit at the bottom of the SEC for 5 years or longer then we can expect to have a record at the bottom of the SEC for several years too.

When other teams have alot more speed than we have then how can we expect to Win when we're so slow?

Top teams like alaBubba don't have a 2 deep of SEC starters on their sidelines...They have 3 deep of SEC starters and we don't even have every position on our starting lineup at top SEC type talent.

I expected 6 Wins and back to a bowl game this season but I did NOT expect Mizzou and allBarn to be as damn good as they turned out to be.

Vandy blew us out last year and our O was great in most games last year but our D lost us most of the games.

This year our D kept us in the Vandy game but we have far too many starting Freshmen on the O so we couldn't score like we did last season.

Anyone that expects much next year is delusional too but that's the norm here on VN unfortunately.

Nick saTan couldn't take over when bUTch did and done any better with the serious lack of talent we have right now so blame KiffScum and CDD for such pathetic talent we'll have to deal with for so many more years.

On NSD bUTch will have his 1st real recruiting class and after he has 4 full recruiting classes on campus if he isn't doing any better then that is when we should start bashing bUTch and his coaches and not before.

There's exactly NOBODY on these boards that can coach any better than bUTch and his staff are doing, NOBODY!!!

VN has the best keyboard coaches in the country, LMAO!

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!

 

[hardyemt_p]

wtf did i just read

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Saban stills thinks UT is a sleeping giant under Dooley as well.

 

[TennesseeFan07]

Unless you end the game with pneumonia or hypothermia, your team won't be considered tough enough. It builds character.

 

[17Vols]

Uh..no drugs..just stating Butch's comments at the Knoxville QB club..thought you'd be interested.

Oh we are, but we're still going to bash you. It's the VN way.

 

[sjt18]

It took you 27,675 posts to finally pull this one out?

I've said basically the same thing since we were discussing "what ifs" before the season even started.

Well, we came within a poor decision of giving the ball back to UGA and a terrible officiating review of going 7-5

I would consider UGA a relative "success" for this staff even though UGA got much worse after that. The Vandy game never should have depended on that one call. It should not have been that close. Jones' strategic decision to "play not to lose" lost that game. I respect his gumption for trying Peterman... but that strategic decision probably cost UT a shot at UF.

But, you still have to remember, we beat a top 10 team in SC and about beat UGA.

Be honest with yourself. How many times out of 100 would UT have beaten USCe this year?

We lost two games to MIz and Aub that we thought would be winnable at the beg of the season.

Not just "lost". Those were non-competitive games. UT was outplayed which I could live with. But they were also outcoached badly... that is harder to deal with when you really want to be hopeful about the near term future of the program... when you would REALLY like to find ANY tangible reason to believe this staff has what it takes to win big games in the SEC.

And that's how people were coming up with 6-7 wins. I think we did ok.

You really think losing to Vandy was "OK"? Really? Sorry. That was VERY poor coaching from the strategy to gameplanning to play calling to adjustments (or lack thereof). They played not to lose and that appeared to kill the enthusiasm of the O. The only positive I saw in that game is the D played their tails off only to come up short in "soft" coverage at the end.

I'm not ready to crown this guy or anything, but you can't tell me that he's hitting on all cylinders

I truly hope not. That's why I left open the possibility that he might do a 180 and actually prove he belongs in the SEC next year. I just cannot find an anchor point in the coaching we witnessed this season to latch on to. Player development? No. Unit development? No. Gameplanning, elite playcalling, great schemes,.... ? No.

I would rather have something that I can at least hang some hope on. If you can point to something tangible... please do. I saw a team that peaked vs UGA and USCe then sharply declined. They played poorly before those games and after.

and he's got commitments from some really strong talent.

That's great but you and I both know that you need both elite talent and elite coaching if you want to win championships. If they can hang on then they'll have SOME talent to work with. But even that can't hang on one class alone.

The first class was OK but nothing to get jacked up about. This class looks to be good. But if he doesn't prove next fall that he can coach players up and win some games that he isn't "supposed" to win... he's not going to keep getting the type of talent he's getting now. To compete for great out of state players on a continuing basis... YOU MUST win. Those kid are attracted to winners.

The roster UT has now was based on two mediocre classes and one pretty good one... with attrition.

We just inherited a slow, untalented team. He's doing what he can but facts are facts. There just isn't any talent on the team.

That's simply not true. It was/is a roster with significant deficiencies. But they were NOT enough to excuse total lay downs vs Ore, Bama, MU, AU, and Vandy.... or a near miss vs USA.

Well coached teams LOOK faster and more talented than they are. Poorly coached teams LOOK slower and less talented than they are. The same guys who looked decent playing in Wilcox's D suddenly looked like they were running in wooden shoes in Sunseri's D. Did they just forget how to run... or was it the coaching?

Like fulmer says, it's not the Xs and Os it's the Jimmies and JOes.

And Fulmer.... often had plenty of Jimmy's and Joe's to compete with the best but was dominated by guys who understood the X's and O's.... and who realized it takes both.

 

[patrick]

The phone call went like this.

Butch: "Hello"

Gruden: Soon.... and then he hung up laughing

Awesome....

Needed a good laugh this morning and got one....

 

[patrick]

Monday at The Knoxville QB club Butch said, "...little victories, Jon Gruden called me this morning, and said 'I saw it'. I had about nine other head coaches call me and say, 'I saw it. That was your football team. I could see you wearing off on them'...Butch said, "Not one person had long sleeves on. That's a mentality. That's an attitude. And that's saying we're not effected by the elements."

I like the sound of that, but I'm afraid they were effected by the elements. However, if Chuckie is impressed by the sleeveless Vols, I am too!!!

Also, I'm pretty sure AJ had long sleeves on...

I wonder who the nine other coaches who called him were...
1. The ole ball coach ?
2. George Quarrels ?
3. Will Muschamp ?....

Go Vols! Go Butch! Tell Gruden I said Hi!

P.S. Smokescreen... haha

Sounds eerily similar to something Dooley would say.

:loco:

 

[sigchig]

_____crack______.

Jimmy Corn IMO :loco: