Jones: an Inside the Park HOME RUN Hire

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SteelerVol said:
Bear Bryant and Neyland coached with the philosophy that the team that makes the fewest mistakes wins. Be disciplined, execute, never quit and when the other guy Fs up...pounce. Dooley always Fd up, usually multiple times. Too many men on the field, poor time management, giving the OC the go ahead to call a knucklehead play. His coordinators and players lacked discipline and as a result couldn't execute consistently. This Shlt ain't rocket science. Jones is clearly on a higher level motivation wise. They say his players execute detail... We'll see. If his coordinators can teach mistake free football we might end up happy with the guy.
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Butch is tough minded like the Bear, and players always take on the personality of their coach.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
There is no way anyone can say whether this is a homerun hire or a strike out looking hire. In my opinion this is at best a 50% chance of succeeding hire. Coach Butch Jones first time at the plate will be this February when he signs his first class. Dooley has the basis for a decent class started. We'll see where it goes from here. The current commits are ranked higher than anything Jones has ever assembled before. If he builds on it he will have hit a single at his first at bat. If it falls apart obviously it will be a strike out at his first at bat. No one, not Gruden, not Saban, not either of the Kellys can win without players. If Jones can't recruit he'll be sent packing a rich man in three years. That's why it was crucial to get a well known coach to bring legitimacy to the program in a hurry. We'll pretty much know in February whether Coach Jones will be here beyond his third season. IMO I'm skeptical.
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This +1000:thumbsup:
 
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Webbvol32 said:
This CAN be a HR!! We just need to hire the BEST STAFF POSSIBLE,GET BEHIND OUR COACH 100%,AND SELL OUT NEYLAND FOR THE O&W GAME!! LET`S SHOW THE NATION UT IS BACK AND HAS BETTER FANS THAN bammer HAS! GO VOLS!! GO BIG ORANGE BUTCH!
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Evidentally, "The Best Staff Possible" = Last year's Cincy staff and a couple of Auburn leftovers.
 
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Coastypop said:
I agree...unless he can prove me wrong...I hope he does, If he doesn't there will more people than him sending out resumes
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Jones will get at least 4 years to make his case no matter how bad it gets. Not because UT is committed to the guy but because UT will not be able to get rid of him financially.

With that said, I wish him ALL the best.
 
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I find it kinda funny that Strong woulda been a triple...with how he seemed to change his mind, it seems he didn't have the mentality to try his hand in the SEC, he was scared whereas Butch Jones has already shown he isn't scared of a challenge and seems to enjoy taking them on. Strong seemed a lil weak when it came to testicular fortitude. : )>
 
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CleVOLander said:
I find it kinda funny that Strong woulda been a triple...with how he seemed to change his mind, it seems he didn't have the mentality to try his hand in the SEC, he was scared whereas Butch Jones has already shown he isn't scared of a challenge and seems to enjoy taking them on. Strong seemed a lil weak when it came to testicular fortitude. : )>
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The recruits who said they would come if he was hired is what made him a "strong" coach, IMO.
 
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CleVOLander said:
I find it kinda funny that Strong woulda been a triple...with how he seemed to change his mind, it seems he didn't have the mentality to try his hand in the SEC, he was scared whereas Butch Jones has already shown he isn't scared of a challenge and seems to enjoy taking them on. Strong seemed a lil weak when it came to testicular fortitude. : )>
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Dooley wasn't scared either. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
 
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Elvis68Vol said:
Dooley wasn't scared either. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
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Dooley wasn't scare or just didn't show emotion like most lawyers do? ; )> At times, we coulda stuck a cardboard cutout on the sidelines and we'd not have known the difference.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
Did we clear the walls the way a Strong, Gundy, or Fedora would have been perceived? Did we hit it out of the park with a Gruden hire? Not close. Still we made a very productive hire with CBJ.

Butch is a guy who preaches fundamentals. A hit your man and put him on the ground attitude that says "shut up and play some damn ball". This is a guy who has shown flashes of brilliance on his way to a 50-27 record in 6 seasons as a head coach.

His players always seem to rally around him, and from Central Michigan to Cincinnati his players have consistently bought into the system he was installing. Everyone is always on the same page with a Butch Jones coached team, and it shows in the results at the end of the year.

His players always do all the little things you need to do in order to win. Butch knows you have to have a strong supporting cast to go along with your stars, and he's a master at getting players to accept their roles without complaint.

The reason I say this is an "Inside the park home run" is while it may not make the big headlines, it is still a hire that will produce the same results. Don't be surprised if we sneak up on a lot of teams next year. We just may be a sleeper team in the SEC East race in 2013. I can't wait for spring practice to start and see the team back on the field and in action.
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College football coach rankings: Nos. 1-124 - NCAA Football - Sporting News

Butch Jones is rated the 28th best coach ahead of strong,fedora this was post 7 months ago almost scary they predicted Jones to tennessee
 
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CleVOLander said:
Dooley wasn't scare or just didn't show emotion like most lawyers do? ; )> At times, we coulda stuck a cardboard cutout on the sidelines and we'd not have known the difference.
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As a son of, brother of, and spouse of attorneys, I hope it is the former ;)
 
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CleVOLander said:
I find it kinda funny that Strong woulda been a triple...with how he seemed to change his mind, it seems he didn't have the mentality to try his hand in the SEC, he was scared whereas Butch Jones has already shown he isn't scared of a challenge and seems to enjoy taking them on. Strong seemed a lil weak when it came to testicular fortitude. : )>
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agree!
 
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Elvis68Vol said:
Jones will get at least 4 years to make his case no matter how bad it gets. Not because UT is committed to the guy but because UT will not be able to get rid of him financially.

With that said, I wish him ALL the best.
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Remember Elvis, we thought this about Dooley too. Couldn't afford to get rid of him either.

This is how I see it going down, assuming he is not successful. In three years we find ourselves battleing KY and Vandy for the bottom three of the SECE. We have 60K in the stands for the stretch run. As decision is made to fire him, pay his buyout because we won't be able to afford to keep him. We find ourselves looking for another coach. Hopefully we have an new AD that knows the importance of UT football and gives a D%$*m about it. He looks and says "do we want another up and comer or do we spend the bucks and go after a proven, well respected, well known coach that will excite the recruits and fan base?" Hopefully he chooses the latter.

Before I get jumped on for already giving up on CBJ and his all-star staff before they even have played a game, all I am doing is contingency planning. Remeber if you fail to plan you plan to fail.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Remember Elvis, we thought this about Dooley too. Couldn't afford to get rid of him either.

This is how I see it going down, assuming he is not successful. In three years we find ourselves battleing KY and Vandy for the bottom three of the SECE. We have 60K in the stands for the stretch run. As decision is made to fire him, pay his buyout because we won't be able to afford to keep him. We find ourselves looking for another coach. Hopefully we have an new AD that knows the importance of UT football and gives a D%$*m about it. He looks and says "do we want another up and comer or do we spend the bucks and go after a proven, well respected, well known coach that will excite the recruits and fan base?" Hopefully he chooses the latter.

Before I get jumped on for already giving up on CBJ and his all-star staff before they even have played a game, all I am doing is contingency planning. Remeber if you fail to plan you plan to fail.
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I think after the last couple of coaches, a contingency plan this early is warranted.
 
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For the record, inside the park home run is probably one of the most exciting plays in baseball. So for the OP to be right, Butch would have to be the most exciting hire outside of Saban coming to UT.
 
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