Jose Bautista now has 15 home runs

#26
#26
You be the judge.

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To me, there's almost no difference. His forearms look slightly larger as a Blue Jay, but that type of change can easily be achieved without roids.
 
#27
#27
There is barely any difference whatsoever. Like you said, his forearms are slightly larger. That's achieved with time in the weight room, no?
 
#28
#28
Not all steroids make you gain muscle mass and weight and of course steroids don't make you a better hitter but it does make balls that used to be lazy fly balls to the outfield go over the fence.

Just sayin...

I do not think Jose Bautista took steroids.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
I looked back at some old pictures, you're correct in that theres little / no physical change.
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That matters not.

Several players have juiced and not looked like a physical freak in doing so.

He tripled his home run total. Tripled!

I want some one to go back and find the last player to come out of nowhere like he has and hit like he has.

All this talk about a swing adjustment, how come everyone on Toronto hasn't made this adjustment?
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GahLee said:
That matters not.

Several players have juiced and not looked like a physical freak in doing so.

He tripled his home run total. Tripled!

I want some one to go back and find the last player to come out of nowhere like he has and hit like he has.

All this talk about a swing adjustment, how come everyone on Toronto hasn't made this adjustment?
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Because not everyone has the same problem that Bautista did?
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#31
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GahLee said:
I want some one to go back and find the last player to come out of nowhere like he has and hit like he has.

They put a picture of him in this thread.

All this talk about a swing adjustment, how come everyone on Toronto hasn't made this adjustment?

This is dumb. Why doesn't everyone swing like Albert Pujols? Get it...
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:good!:
 
#32
#32
Toronto's HR total steadily progressed from '08 (126) to '09 (209) to '10 (257). Why? Citoball. Cito Gaston is your quintessential "swing for the fences" manager and the stats show that. This year, they're only on pace for 166. Cito retired after last season. Coincidence? I don't think so.
 
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MaehlMan said:
Because not everyone has the same problem that Bautista did?
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Saying a simple swing adjustment helped him hit triple the amount of home runs is absurd to me.

At this point almost everyone is guilty until proven innocent.
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GahLee said:
Saying a simple swing adjustment helped him hit triple the amount of home runs is absurd to me.

At this point almost everyone is guilty until proven innocent.
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Just as absurd as your unwavering arrogance.
 
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govols120 said:
Toronto's HR total steadily progressed from '08 (126) to '09 (209) to '10 (257). Why? Citoball. Cito Gaston is your quintessential "swing for the fences" manager and the stats show that. This year, they're only on pace for 166. Cito retired after last season. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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So a managers is worth almost 100 home runs?
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#37
A manager's style of play could be. This is John Farrell's first managerial job, so he's probably instilling his style in the players for now.
 
#40
#40
And the problem with your opinions is you act as if people who don't think like you do are idiots. Always. I believe that screams arrogant.
 
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govols120 said:
A manager's style of play could be. This is John Farrell's first managerial job, so he's probably instilling his style in the players for now.
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The disparity in production is just so hard to ignore.

New team, new swing, whatever, the jump is amazing.

It's not like he was a 30 homerun guy who made an adjustment and is now hitting 50.
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#42
#42
A guy hitting home runs like he is with his track record is suspicious.

That's me.

You dong think so, fine.

I have every right to think you are outta your mind.
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MaehlMan said:
He looks EXACTLY THE SAME AS HE ALWAYS HAS. Dude made an adjustment to his swing and he plays consistently now. He's not juicing.
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You do know that you can benefit from steroids without changing the way you look, right?

If you don't think there have been 5'11 180lbs cornerbacks in college/nfl that have juiced but didn't reap the benefits, I don't know what to tell ya.

Saying "They look the same" is a terrible argument imo.
 
#48
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
You do know that you can benefit from steroids without changing the way you look, right?

If you don't think there have been 5'11 180lbs cornerbacks in college/nfl that have juiced but didn't reap the benefits, I don't know what to tell ya.

Saying "They look the same" is a terrible argument imo.
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But its a fair enough starting point. I'm unsure what the deal is, but I dont have an impossible time presuming innocence at this point.
 
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#49
#1ArencibiaFan said:
I find it harder to believe that steroids made him hit 40 more homeruns than a swing change. Steroids don't magically make you a better hitter.
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It doesn't make you a better hitter. It just turns pop flies into home runs. Lots of guys hit balls to the warning track and do it every other games. Those turn into home runs. Hence jumping from 15 to 50.

Again, it's not impossible. But come on... after all the steroid talk and letting Bonds get away with steroids, people are just going to write off home runs for Jose Bautista? The guy that did nothing until he was 30 years old. Bonds was athletic all around and had a high batting average.

You can make all the excuses you want for some guy that came out of nowhere playing on a crappy team. If this were a hall of fame caliber player, people would be all over him for turning into a power hitter.
 
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