Josh Dobbs: play-by-play vs Alabama (video)

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therickbol said:
Do not know how much accuracy there is in the bolded anaylsis. Smith had the CB beat by 2 yards and the throw was pretty badly underthrown. Smith came back to the ball and it ended up hitting him in the hands, so he should have caught it. But not because the throw was good. If the ball had more on it and was thrown where it was suppose to be thrown, it would have been a touchdown.
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Totally agree but that was his first deep ball. I think the timing and practice reps will help solve things like that but boy did that throw look great or what? It's time to start chunking it down field to north. I can't wait to see this offense the next four games. Turn overs could go up but on the other hand Dobbs just really looked very calm in the pocket. The guy has all the tools to be memorable and IMO I think he gets it done. I would think he should be able to have a manning like approach to making adjustments before the snap. It's all about knowledge and tendencies. I think dobbs should be able to get those types of stats down no problem prior to playing every week.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
@ 5:10 Smith has his defender beat 2 yards and has to come back, the ball is underthrown and he smacks into the defender.

@ 5:36 The ball could have had more zip, sorta a wobbler, and Smith's defender had his arm between Smith's to knock the ball out.

I'm not defending or not defending Smith. But the dude set national receiving records, so I doubt he's got "bricks" for hands. I think it's more at the freshmen getting used to each others route timing at game speed and they were playing the fricking best defense in the nation.

I'm not totally sold on Dobbs yet. Worley, warts and all, led us to a W over a better team. Maybe Dobbs is the man, maybe not. We'll see.
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He didn't set the records. His teammate Davis Howell did
 
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omghulkhands said:
The ball traveled 50 yards in the air, I think what you mean is "if he had thrown it a little earlier".
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And it seemed like he put everything he had on it. So 50 yards in the air is considered a strong arm? Again, its certainly not a weak arm. But people talking about all his zing and zip and big arm strength. Yes, if he throws it earlier then that would have gotten the job done. And it is a possiblity it was a timing issue. Maybe he underestimated Smith's speed on the route. If that is the case then great. From my view, it seemed like he put everything he had into that throw. Might be wrong.
 
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FBtime said:
Also...that play where the QB rolls to the right and throws to the left seems to work almost every time. That's a well designed play.
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The Bammers just about lost their jockstraps when JD rolled right and then tossed left. I almost fell out of my seat when I saw how badly the coverage busted on that throw to North. Very well-done play by Bajakian.
 
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therickbol said:
And it seemed like he put everything he had on it. So 50 yards in the air is considered a strong arm? Again, its certainly not a weak arm. But people talking about all his zing and zip and big arm strength. Yes, if he throws it earlier then that would have gotten the job done. And it is a possiblity it was a timing issue. Maybe he underestimated Smith's speed on the route. If that is the case then great. From my view, it seemed like he put everything he had into that throw. Might be wrong.
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Didn't seem like he put everything he had on it. Dude flicked his wrist and it flew 50 yards. Danielson's reaction was very telling.
 
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therickbol said:
And it seemed like he put everything he had on it. So 50 yards in the air is considered a strong arm? Again, its certainly not a weak arm. But people talking about all his zing and zip and big arm strength. Yes, if he throws it earlier then that would have gotten the job done. And it is a possiblity it was a timing issue. Maybe he underestimated Smith's speed on the route. If that is the case then great. From my view, it seemed like he put everything he had into that throw. Might be wrong.
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I agree with you rickbol. One pass a little wobbly, another, whether bad timing or too short, caused his receiver to have to slow down so the defender got a good bump when the ball arrived. And yes, receivers gotta make those, but better throws would have made it easier. I think it's only Dobbs' first time calling snaps, there's a lot of freshman jitter still to get past and get their timing down at game speed.
I hope that's all it is for Dobbs and Smith. North's just a beast already.
 
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#58
To come into a game on the road at Alabama and not appear to have "happy feet" or rattled saysa lot imo about Dobbs.
 
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therickbol said:
And it seemed like he put everything he had on it. So 50 yards in the air is considered a strong arm? Again, its certainly not a weak arm. But people talking about all his zing and zip and big arm strength. Yes, if he throws it earlier then that would have gotten the job done. And it is a possiblity it was a timing issue. Maybe he underestimated Smith's speed on the route. If that is the case then great. From my view, it seemed like he put everything he had into that throw. Might be wrong.
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Not trying to bump this because it is the first time I've watched it. I was very impressed with his pocket presence and how he stepped into his throws. Worley seems to throw more times than not falling backwards. Josh moved around in the pocket pretty good to extend plays and avoid pressure. I also liked the fact that he made decisions pretty quickly. They may not have been the right decision, but he went with it. Virtually every ball was well placed and somewhat away from the defender. I like his running ability, but it scares me with the injuries we have at the QB position. We could lose both the redshirts on our Freshmen 2 weeks in a row, but if that happens we can at least get a glimpse at the future instead of speculating all the time. It is hard to judge if Alabama was playing hard, but if the backups were in there they have something to prove to the coaches to get more playing time and they have to sit in the film room and be critiqued also. I believe they were playing hard, but they may have been playing vanilla and not disguising their coverages. I was impressed though with his overall performance. I can't wait till this weekend to see how he competes.
 
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#60
My favorite thing from that 2nd half was how poised and calm Dobbs was. Most would melt under that type of situation. Love that confidence
 
#61
#61
I like Dobbs a lot. Needs to learn to slide so he won't get hit though. The play he kept the option and almost got a first down showed a ton of heart. He basically side stepped the guy so he couldn't get a solid shot on him but still took a good hit.
 
#62
#62
Thanks Freak. I didn't get a chance to see the game last weekend and I was wondering how Dobbs did. Looks like he has a huge upside.
 
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#63
finally got to watch the highlights. had to leave after first half. very impressed with the aspects that everyone has mentioned at length. now its whether or not he can continue at that level, when the game is on his shoulders. a lot to put on a freshman. im grateful that we have an experienced O line in front of him. GBO
 
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SouthFlorida_Vol said:
Look at the small details in this video. Watch when our running back get hit just past the line of scrimmage. They move backwards. When Bama's backs are hit in the same position they fall forward to are able to keep moving forward. When our receivers are trying to get off the line of scrimmage they are stopped for a second during their release, Bama's are not, Oregon's are not, Florida State's are not. This is a clear indication of talent, speed, and strength.

When we had Jamal, Travis, Travis among others, our back use to get hit and keep moving forward. Our receivers use to get a clean release off the line of scrimmage, making the timing plays more effective.

I have no doubt when our speed and talent is where it should be (the incoming class) we will see a huge difference in the results.
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Very unfair analogy IMO. You are making assumptions off of the Alabama game. Alabama who is extremely talented at every position. Also our WRs are very young. Give them a little time. The teams you listed are not playing as many young WRs as we are. Nor are either of those teams dealing with the QB situation we are.
 
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#66
Dobbs needs to stop leaning into the run play just at the snap....tipping too much.
 
#67
#67
I love the part when they are near the goal line and instead of going for a TD they make the first down play. Thanks for the video freak! Much appreciation.
 
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thanks for the link freak. anyway, like many on here i did not watch the 2nd half. i heard all of the hype about dobbs so i was very interested to watch this. not very surprisingly i was underwhelmed by what i was expecting based on volnation comments.

that deep ball was under thrown and our WR had 3+ yards on the bama db should we be worried about this kids arm on the deep ball or was this just a poor throw? what i do like about #11s game was that he rocketed those 7-15yrd passes right where they needed to be. it is so hard to defend that if the timing is down with the qb and receiver. if we get that kind of play consistent that is so complimentary to a hurry up offense where is all about getting that 1st down every drive. my 2cents anyway
 
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#69
Thanks for the video, Freak! This shows how Bajakian opens up the offense for a pretty mobile QB. I hope we see more under center snaps.

GBO
 
#70
#70
Why are they still using Josh Smith and Cody Blanc when they are dropping the catchable balls? Why not use Croom, Howard, and DY instead. And those 2 throws 1 to Johnson and the rollout throw back to North were perfectly placed good throws. Kid's got an arm. Give him a chance with receivers that can catch the ball and get open and it could be lights out.
 
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SouthFlorida_Vol said:
Look at the small details in this video. Watch when our running back get hit just past the line of scrimmage. They move backwards. When Bama's backs are hit in the same position they fall forward to are able to keep moving forward. When our receivers are trying to get off the line of scrimmage they are stopped for a second during their release, Bama's are not, Oregon's are not, Florida State's are not. This is a clear indication of talent, speed, and strength.

When we had Jamal, Travis, Travis among others, our back use to get hit and keep moving forward. Our receivers use to get a clean release off the line of scrimmage, making the timing plays more effective.

I have no doubt when our speed and talent is where it should be (the incoming class) we will see a huge difference in the results.
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I agree that we don't have a Jamal, but I think you'll find that Marlin Lane more often than not continues forward. Neal more often than not gets stood up. Which is why I've been begging for Lane to get the bulk of the carries.
 
#72
#72
I enjoyed that. Thanks Freak. Dobbs is going to be so stoked and focused that he will see the Field unlike anyone else. Can't wait.
 
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perico said:
It looked like his last throw was tipped at the line. Other than one other tipped pass, there weren't any that were off target. The long one was underthrown but perfectly placed for Blanc to make the catch. He just dropped it.
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It was no way catchable. better watch again and where is the great catch he had against bama
 
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