Josh Heupel Post Alabama Press Conference

[pharmDvol11]

It’s games like this that after getting screwed on so many calls I honestly wouldn’t blame coach and the team to just pack it up, go to the locker room and head back to Knoxville esp before Bama catches up and the game gets out of hand. Take the L but don’t let the refs and that environment take a W from you. Now before you rational ppl go “That will never happen. It would basically destroy careers, lost money, etc.” Think about how much value ppl put in these games and how it can make or break careers anyway. I’m not saying anybody should, but I would understand just going back to the locker room and peacing out. But I’m sure at a minimum somebody who packs it up gets fired.

My tinfoil hat ref theory is simple: each ref gets a cigar after the game even if Bama loses. Expecting them to get paid under the table would give them too much credit. You saw the game and the horrendous officiating. All the prolonged Bama offensive drives because the refs threw a bogus flag. Which reminds me just go back to the locker room and leave. Deal with the consequences bc then the media would be forced to look at the officiating under a microscope. What I’m saying is don’t give those guys any credit. There’s no way you can convince me they don’t get a cigar. Think about it. You get paid extra because it’s simply a bigger game (can’t confirm but seems practical). Check. You’re playing in Tuscaloosa. Check. You get a cigar after the game because Bama will always have extras. Check. Now Bama’s terrible offense doesn’t have to worry about 3rd and long. All I’m saying is that might be just enough incentive for them. Why wouldn’t you help them? You wanna be the only ppl in the post game smoking cigars? Seems ridiculous to think something like that would affect a game so much but (again) someone else explain to me why those calls make sense. And like so many of you have said the NCAA doesn’t care because money.

 

[508mikey]

Oh my goodness.

"Coach, it felt like your guys were forced to play 2 hand touch while they were playing Mortal Kombat. Did you feel like it was a bit one sided?"

LONG period of silence and biting his tongue..

Heupel: "was that enough silence for you? Next question."

He knows. They all know.

he should have ate the fine and said what he really thought of them

 

[Vfl2407]

I don't have a problem going for it when or where he did. Bama came out and quickly seized momentum, and these things can steamroll
when you're playing a good team on the road, the crowd gets jacked up, etc. Heupel was trying to stop Big Mo before its steam engine was fully
stoked. But for chrissake, just put your linebacker QB under center and plow forward a yard. It's not rocket science. It's scientifically guaranteed less risky than receiving the ball 4 or 5 yards behind the LOS and so now you've got to get 5 or 6 yards.

How about Joe under center with two of our biggest bodies behind him pushing him into the pile.

 

[gattisman]

Question is why is he scared to say something?
Please don't tell me money
How is it we can talk **** about any president at any time but yet you can't speak of the refs?
Really chew on that awhile .Again it isn't me being a Tennessee homer ,I'm ****in tired of watching staged football games week in week out and no one says a word ..So this is no longer a sport , it's now sports entertainment just like WWE...

The reason why most coaches wont criticize the refs (IMHO), because it is like a brotherhood in they have eache others back.Call out the refs in last nites game and see what happens in the next game they will hold the team and coach accountable with very picky calls like the Bama game.Unfortunately the only way to fix this is to continue for TN to keep getting more 4* and 5* players so we c an beat the other team and the refs also..

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Agree. Why is everyone so afraid of Saban / the refs / Alabama. Their whole state is the laughingstock of our nation. What is there to fear. Is Saban tied to the mob or Hillary? Doesn’t TN have boosters, moovers and shakers with a lot more clout than Alabama? Maybe a lot of other schools and influencers are also involved with this corruption.

The SEC conference is why Bama get's the calls. UGA will also get the calls. Whomever is deemed to have a better shot at the CFP, especially at this point in the season, will have the SEC officiating crew on their side. Had we beaten Florida, the calls would have likely went our way.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Rather than punt, how about when it’s 4th and inches just snap it under center and plow forward. It’s nearly a gimmie first down. But no, we go shotgun and turn 4th and inches into 4th and 5 yards and some inches

As simple as that sounds, the increased risk of a fumble is why coaches don't do take a snap under center if that isn't a part of their normal routine.

 

[VolInDayton]

The SEC tells the refs to favor Bama, so they aren't going to do anything about it if Tennessee sends in a tape of the missed calls.

 

[DooleyOrangePants]

I don't have a problem going for it when or where he did. Bama came out and quickly seized momentum, and these things can steamroll
when you're playing a good team on the road, the crowd gets jacked up, etc. Heupel was trying to stop Big Mo before its steam engine was fully stoked. But for chrissake, just put your linebacker QB under center and plow forward a yard. It's not rocket science. It's scientifically guaranteed less risky than receiving the ball 4 or 5 yards behind the LOS and so now you've got to get 5 or 6 yards.

Exactly this. I have zero issue with going for it on 4th and inches, 1 when you are around midfield. In fact, I applaud him going for it because we are looking at a different game if successful.

But how we went for it just baffles me. That I think has me more irate more than most of the things from yesterday.

 

[DukeDaisySam]

It’s games like this that after getting screwed on so many calls I honestly wouldn’t blame coach and the team to just pack it up, go to the locker room and head back to Knoxville esp before Bama catches up and the game gets out of hand. Take the L but don’t let the refs and that environment take a W from you. Now before you rational ppl go “That will never happen. It would basically destroy careers, lost money, etc.” Think about how much value ppl put in these games and how it can make or break careers anyway. I’m not saying anybody should, but I would understand just going back to the locker room and peacing out. But I’m sure at a minimum somebody who packs it up gets fired.

My tinfoil hat ref theory is simple: each ref gets a cigar after the game even if Bama loses. Expecting them to get paid under the table would give them too much credit. You saw the game and the horrendous officiating. All the prolonged Bama offensive drives because the refs threw a bogus flag. Which reminds me just go back to the locker room and leave. Deal with the consequences bc then the media would be forced to look at the officiating under a microscope. What I’m saying is don’t give those guys any credit. There’s no way you can convince me they don’t get a cigar. Think about it. You get paid extra because it’s simply a bigger game (can’t confirm but seems practical). Check. You’re playing in Tuscaloosa. Check. You get a cigar after the game because Bama will always have extras. Check. Now Bama’s terrible offense doesn’t have to worry about 3rd and long. All I’m saying is that might be just enough incentive for them. Why wouldn’t you help them? You wanna be the only ppl in the post game smoking cigars? Seems ridiculous to think something like that would affect a game so much but (again) someone else explain to me why those calls make sense. And like so many of you have said the NCAA doesn’t care because money.

SP

 

[BigALWiLson]

We started on the 4 because of a bullcrap ref call after a touchdown. If he would have done a pass and got sacked and fumbled or threw a pick six then you would be talking about that.

See you don't know sh1t, I wasn't talking about that series. You do realize that was the first possesion of the 2nd half right ? I know the 3rd quarter was hard to watch for all of us. I agree about the fair catch. What they called was a bs call. Execution and Coaching cost us 17 of the 34 points. Refs gave them 17 with all of the neck tackles

 

[mackievol]

Anything and less than 2 for a first down or touchdown should ban any use of the shotgun.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Why do all these pressers sound like we are listening to it from a cassette tape recorder from the next room? Is that microphone even turned on?

 

[FranklinVFL]

Can I ask a serious question about officiating? Why do we have conference officials? Why doesn’t the entire officiating personnel fall u see the NCAA? Each conference would pay I to that fund and the NCAA would control what officials officiate which games.

I mean, if officials from Colorado are calling games in Alabama, that seems more balanced unbiased.

Is that too easy a solution? Or am I just waaaay off base?

 

[kckempf]

Oh he would get fined in a heartbeat. And its easy for us to say "who cares, say it!" But it isn't coming out of our paychecks.

There's only one way to beat this system.

1. Divisions need to go away so that two "contenders" can co exist in the SEC
2. We need to be one of those two contenders. Which, IMO, we are WELL on our way to being.

If it's just a fine that's one thing. I think he knows if he says something we'll find out exactly how much worse the refereeing can get in these last 4 SEC games, and he's not going to make that decision for the players.

 

[FranklinVFL]

Not saying I am going to quit watching football. I like it too much. But it is going to slide down my list of priorities.

I said the exact same thing yesterday. CFB games have gotten bigger and bigger. With all the money that is floating around CFB, from TV revenues, merchandising, NIL and sports betting, the likelihood of corruption grows.

Corruption follows where the money is—not where the money isn’t.

 

[Clad in Big Orange]

Bama/Georgia are the cash cows of the SEC. Sankey is the ranch hand. It’s their league and everybody else is just window dressing.

 

[BAMA-DAWG]

Seriously?? Do you not realize how much these coaches are making??? I mean he'll if I was making 7mil I wouldn't bat an eye at raising hell at refs for 50K!!!

Equivalent to $70k/yrs guy pi**ing away $500, but I get your point

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

We lined up in I formation last year and some under center we need to get back to that for the sake of the QB sneak and the push.

Yes as big as Milton is when we are in short yardage and inside the 1, just get his rear behind center bring in your 2 biggest backs right behind him and sneak and have them 2 crash in behind him. Quit getting in the shotgun and giving up 4-5 yards to gain less than a foot. It’s not just Heupel even pro’s sometimes do it. But that don’t make it smart it, it’s actually just plain dumb. GBO

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

As simple as that sounds, the increased risk of a fumble is why coaches don't do take a snap under center if that isn't a part of their normal routine.

It needs to be part of the normal routine. The sneak has been around forever and works the majority of the time. Just as likely a bad snap when in shotgun could get you as the quarterback fumbling a sneak. Shotgun formation when you have less than a foot to go is showing weakness from the start if you ask me.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

Oh he would get fined in a heartbeat. And its easy for us to say "who cares, say it!" But it isn't coming out of our paychecks.

There's only one way to beat this system.

1. Divisions need to go away so that two "contenders" can co exist in the SEC
2. We need to be one of those two contenders. Which, IMO, we are WELL on our way to being.

I don’t want to just be on the good side of the corruption though. I want the corruption to end. There has to be some accountability for officiating that comes from outside the SEC office, whether it’s top-down (NCAA, unlikely) or bottom-up (from member institutions having more say, more promising).

 

[alavolfan]

Yes as big as Milton is when we are in short yardage and inside the 1, just get his rear behind center bring in your 2 biggest backs right behind him and sneak and have them 2 crash in behind him. Quit getting in the shotgun and giving up 4-5 yards to gain less than a foot. It’s not just Heupel even pro’s sometimes do it. But that don’t make it smart it, it’s actually just plain dumb. GBO

Yep… “the tush push” Heck the Eagles have perfected it.., looks like rugby and it worked on 3 straight 4th downs tonight. Practically unstoppable!

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

3rd down and red zone is where you see the difference between a mediocre QB and a good one.

It’s also a place where you see the difference in a great play baller and a bad one.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

The fact is beating Saban at home is virtually impossible. His home record is mind blowing.

 

[rocytop2624]

The fact is beating Saban at home is virtually impossible. His home record is mind blowing.

Texas did just this year.