Josh Heupel's time allotment as HC

How long do you think he will be here as head coach?

  • Three years

    Votes: 125 19.3%

  • Seven years or less

    Votes: 286 44.1%

  • Seven years or more

    Votes: 252 38.8%
  • Total voters
    649
  • Poll closed .
#26
#26
BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
. He’s just a placeholder till the next coach I honestly doubt he has one winning season while he’s here and it won’t be his fault really. This program is nuked and cratered for years to come nobody can come in here now and win right now.
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That slack jawed Gump really did a number on us.
 
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#29
#29
I believed in Kiffin... left
I believed in Dooley... sucked
I believed in Butch Jones... sucked
I did not believe in Pruitt... sucked

I am not going to get excited about Heupel but I'm also not down on him. Could go either way. Given that it's the SEC and Vols have been bad so long, it's more likely he fails than succeeds. Hopefully he turns out to be the real deal. I will say I'm excited about Heupel in the sense he is not Pruitt. Mystery box is more exciting than turd Pruitt, even if the mystery box is a turd.
 
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#30
#30
I think a big splash hire would make this a 5-6 year rebuild . JH is very underwhelming. Hes gotta prove himself, sucks we couldn't get a proven HC. Looks like we won't be catching bama for a long time, in football or basketball.
 
#33
#33
Pride85 said:
As long as that rule is considered as "gospel", this team will never be relevant again. Continual change and chaos in a system based on constant change of player personnel will always be a recipe for failure.
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Completely agree. But there are some on here that absolutely swear by it. 3 years. Regardless of what the circumstances are a HC only gets 3 years.
 
#34
#34
BigOrangeTrain said:
VN needs to remember the rule that some VN fans have created. Regardless of how bad the situation is, if a HC doesn’t win big in year 3, then there is NO WAY they will be any good.
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I wouldn't use that rule...but if anyome thinks Pruiit was ever gonna win big, youre just fooling yourself.

He squandered talent like no other coach weve seen.


He lost to Georgia State...he got absolutely blown out by Kentucky..trends can be read by year 3...his were trending in the wrong direction.


CBJ deserved a sixth year far more then CJP deserved a 4th. At least Jones had shown flashes of success and he had to deal with following the worst recruiter ever
 
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#35
#35
I voted 7 or more. I mean c’mon - this is the school that hired Beldar Cornbread. Do you honestly think we could do better than Heupel?
Just keep him. And if he sucks, maybe we’ll slash ticket prices or go the AAC route. Just please- no more coaching searches. That just ain’t our thang.
 
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#36
#36
VolunteerHillbilly said:
He’s already done. Can’t ‘cruit. It’s just a matter of time now.
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Unfortunately THIS will probably be THE determining factor. This is not tiddlywinks, it's big boy big time college football. If he doesn't get the hosses he'll be getting on I-40 heading out of town. It's not nor should it be personal, it's a performance business and you're either performing or you're not. It's why these folks are over compensated as the lifespan of a career is usually very short.
 
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#37
#37
At this point we only have two things to go on: the staff he's put together, and some soundbites. It seems as though he hasn't done a bad job on the staff selection, and he doesn't sound like a neanderthal (neither in grammar or ideas captured within his words). Both of those are at least somewhat encouraging at this point. That said, we've not seen a damned thing yet that actually lends credence to any prognostications regarding his tenure here, for better or worse...and it's not Heupel's fault. Once we see the on-field product (and hopefully the energy, fight, and player development we've been sorely missing) then we'll have something other than wild-arsed guesses on future levels of success and how long he'll stick around Knoxville.
 
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#41
#41
I’m not guaranteeing success or failure...facts are to be determined. What I am endorsing is that we have an offensive architect who will put a product on the field that doesn’t have to execute 100% perfectly to gain 7 yards. Someone put up 500+ yards against a FCS team as a slight against Heupel’s system? When have we done that in the last few seasons? What I HAVE witnessed way too many times is our defense almost making a stop, and an opposing offense still making a big play out of it. Like the Georgia TE fumbling the ball and scoring a TD. See that as an actuality and I’m here for it. New regime has to identify talent (a Pruitt strength), recruit and sign it (another Pruitt strength) and then develop it and maximize it’s effectiveness in a scheme...defensive and offensive (NOT a Pruitt strength...or option) That will determine the last chapter of this book...not Rorschach tests of his other stop. Thumbs up and the program advances and moves towards something of which we can be proud. Thumbs down and we’re status quo. Errything else we postulate on is saber rattling.
 
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#44
#44
Tman44 said:
Nick Saban - Michigan State
1995 6-5-1
1996 6-6
1997 7-5
1998 6-6
1999 10-2

So it took the great Nick Saban until his 5th year to find real success @ Michigan State. Let CJH do what he does and be patient for goodness sake.
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Excellent post but see that doesn’t count because Saban won quick at Bama. The days of a HC activity getting 5 years is gone. If they don’t get it done in 3, then it’s time to move on.

This is the VN way.
 
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#48
#48
Other than the offensive fireworks of the O in ‘12, Dooley never progressed. Anybody with a football acumen could tell in ‘15 with the Oklahoma, Arky and Fla losses Butch just was not going to get it done.

I say by year three, you know if the coach is going to work out or not.
 
#49
#49
butchna said:
I’m not guaranteeing success or failure...facts are to be determined. What I am endorsing is that we have an offensive architect who will put a product on the field that doesn’t have to execute 100% perfectly to gain 7 yards. Someone put up 500+ yards against a FCS team as a slight against Heupel’s system? When have we done that in the last few seasons? What I HAVE witnessed way too many times is our defense almost making a stop, and an opposing offense still making a big play out of it. Like the Georgia TE fumbling the ball and scoring a TD. See that as an actuality and I’m here for it. New regime has to identify talent (a Pruitt strength), recruit and sign it (another Pruitt strength) and then develop it and maximize it’s effectiveness in a scheme...defensive and offensive (NOT a Pruitt strength...or option) That will determine the last chapter of this book...not Rorschach tests of his other stop. Thumbs up and the program advances and moves towards something of which we can be proud. Thumbs down and we’re status quo. Errything else we postulate on is saber rattling.
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First sentence sums it up pretty well.

But I can also see why some lean more toward the idea of him not being successful. And I'm not sure its altogether about his ability either way.
 
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